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an thay tryed to sell me a hole computer
i told tham to to to some ware
... * System Operators do it on a Net!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 4468
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 10/01/93 5:22a
Subj: Re: I want to buy a CDROM drive... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 20 Sep 93 13:58:00, I heard Giuliano Maciocci Jr. shout to Dealers:
GM> I am now able to buy a CD-ROM drive, namely a Panasonic CR562b. I have a
GM> 386DX/40 with 4MB of memory and a basic Sound Blaster Pro.
GM>
GM> I would like to order the drive from the US (I am in Zimbabwe) within the n
GM> week or two. I would like all interested in selling a NEW CDROM of the abov
GM> model and who are able to ship it here to send me, through E-Mail, their fa
GM> numbers, prices and bundled software offers. I will buy from the best offer
GM> soon after.
GM>
GM> Thank you all and cheers.
GM>
GM>
GM> *************
GM> ***** ****
GM> ** Raver
Send me a Fax Number Or a Voice Number, and would be happy to get you all of
the info.
.....|<evin
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4469
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 10/01/93 1:02a
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH>A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of duplicates
RH>between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to as "CD-ROM
DUPLIATE
RH>ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of this - do you know any BBS
Russell,
You can download it from our BBS at 509-457-0206. I will be making a new
comparison chart, just as soon as I have all the new CD's in hand. (Still
waiting on Night Owl 10)
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4470
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 1:02a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$95
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4471
To: ALL CD-ROM DEALERS Date: 10/01/93 1:03a
Subj: DEALER PRICING! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
-------------------------
Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles. We now have the following CD
titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:
Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox
If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4472
To: DEAN DROLET Date: 10/01/93 7:03p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**B00000SEND ME YOU MAILING ADDRESS...AND I'LL MAIL YOU A LIST.
THANKS,
NEIL BERGMAN
SHORELINE CD-ROM
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4473
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/01/93 9:47p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Well, I just baught a dual spin panasonic
CB>today.. and it was cheap.. so what gives? am I screwed ou tof a waran
CB>what? What does this mean? Anyone?
Ask your reseller. He/she probably has a warranty & service program set
up.
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4474
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 10/01/93 9:55p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> CD-Rom with "U.S. Code, containing the g
JC>and permanent laws of the United States" for # 30.00 from: Catalog SB-
JC>Government Printing Office Superintendent of Documents Box 371954 Pitt
JC>PA 15250-7954
Thanks Jim!
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 4475
To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 10/01/93 9:58p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SS> CD> Has anyone else heard this?
SS>
SS>Nope.. If this is the case I'm KILLING my dealer tomorrow.... [g]
Ask him about warranty and service...Panasonic told me that if I bought
one of their units from an "independent" dealer (as opposed to buying it
in a package from Creative Labs or another OEM marketer) that I was NOT
eligible for Panasonic warranties, service or technical support.
As a matter of fact, even the OEM units are handled outside Panasonic
channels...
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4476
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/01/93 1:36p
Subj: Re: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Lee Noga to Clarke Ulmer <=-
CU>> PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
LN> No copyright concerns? We looked into this arena as well, and what we
LN> could get licensed was a 'Skimpy' collection--Congrats on making the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gee, I'd thought the skimpier, the better! ((:> JUST KIDDIN'
... Do what you will with this tagline, just don't bother me about it!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4477
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/01/93 1:43p
Subj: Your Taglines Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Robert Powell <=-
BF> * SLMR 2.1a * Catalyst (n): An alphabetical list of Cats.
You seem to have a *LOT* of cat-chy taglines 'bout cats. As a lover of
felines myseff, I jus' have to steal one now and again. Hope you don't mind.
... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: KEN MATTHEWS Number: 4478
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 09/30/93 10:55a
Subj: encarta Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rich, I'lll take Encarta for 105 if it has the Rgistration Card,,
Please leave phone number or adress where to send the check!
Ken 412 793 9152, I'm in PGH, pa!
thanks..
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4479
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/30/93 9:20p
Subj: Re: kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
/q
-> >> YO boris....
->
-> >> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
-> >> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum >>
-> prob. DONT FAX just dont :) leave me a message is echo . hmm.. >>
-> Pleez be quick 2 reply if u reply coz my subscription is
-> >> nearly up - 13 dayz cheers l8ta
->
-> Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
-> proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
-> Normal travel time is 7 - 10 days and that depends on customes as
-> well.
-> I would think you should receive your order within the next few days.
->
-> You have our fax number, please contact us if you have any further
-> questions or problems.
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
-> --- FMail 0.96
->
-> * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
You have Kings Quest 7?!!! Can I get it from you, whats it like?
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4480
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/30/93 9:29p
Subj: Kings quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
->
-> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if
-> anyone else has a clue?
->
-> 1> Can't pass the boiling water.
->
-> 2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3
-> that is)
->
-> Leave me a note - if ya can help -
-> Candid Kid
->
-> --- WM v3.10 [Beta]
->
-> * Origin: Freezing Point BBS - WDNet HQ - Mpls MN - USR DS 16.8k
-> (1:282/85)
Yo Kid it's the Annihilator of games here, simple!!! Whats kq6 like, eh? Well
for your probalem (Proable goten the clue already) The freezing water add
frozen cabbage, Isle of wonder. Castle you can get in three ways one show ring
to guards, two use Beauty's clothes pass as a maid (Clothes Isle of the beast)
three magic paint spell (All engrediants found at the end of the game) So TTYL
if you have any problems at ANY sierra games, I'm your man. (Or other games
just give me a shout!!)
P.S. I've seen you on other BBS's to (On you on WGH Headcouters or Basement
BBS?) You ever played The 7th Guest? Great game if you don't have I'll even
lend it to for awhile, depending on where about you live.
-Carl- or -Annihilator- also seen as Terminator-800- TTYL have fun.
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4481
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/30/93 9:30p
Subj: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
->
-> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
-> titles in stock.
->
-> WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
-> WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
-> KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
-> ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
-> DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO
-> LIST!!!
-> KINGS QUEST V $16.74
-> LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG,
-> LEAVE
-> SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR
-> POSTAL
-> TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
-> NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
-> UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
->
-> ***ADULT***
-> ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
-> THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION
-> VIDEO)
-> MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
-> VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
-> VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
-> SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
-> STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
-> STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
-> HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
-> SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
-> MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
-> DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
-> MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
->
-> WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR
-> CREDIT CARDS
-> $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
->
-> SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
-> 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
-> LOS ANGELES, CA 90035 FAX: (310) 652-2608
->
-> * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 1 * RoboMail -- The next generation QWK
-> compatible reader
-> --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93
-> * Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
Can you send me a list.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 4482
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 10/01/93 8:01a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP> Hey, this is.... uh... different. There must be two
RP> people with the same name on this BBS. I keep reading
RP> mail about CD-ROMs and other neato stuff that I never
RP> wrote... veddy intelesting...
RP> RLP
You are not simply logged on to a BBS. This is an echo, which means
that this conference is distributed not just to the people who log on to the
BBS you are using, but to BBS's in many places. In this particular case, the
CD-ROM echo, the distribution is world wide, so if you will look at the origin
lines, you will see messages from as far away as Australia. I happen to be in
San Antonio, Tx. Since there are literally tens of thousands of people writing
in these echoes, the odds of coming across someone else with your name is
fairly good.
Les
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From: JAY HARRISON Number: 4483
To: ALEX MOTTRAM Date: 09/30/93 5:01a
Subj: Sony CDU-31a Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Alex!
29 Sep 93, Alex Mottram writes to All:
AM> Does anyone have the _REAL_ specs on this drive? One day I got a wild
AM> hair up my butt to buy another CDrom drive for my BBS (already have a
AM> mitsumi on another machine) and bought the Fusion CD-16 system at Wal-Mart
AM> (wanted a 16bit soundcard also, so it was sort of a deal).. The manuals,
AM> of course, tell you nothing, and CD-Speed software tends to give varying
AM> results. I've seen 130kb/s to 164kb/s using MPCWizard and the speed test
AM> on MegaDemo CD. What I'm really interested in is the access time in ms.
SONY's Users Guide on this drive yields the following:
Data Transfer Rate: Sustained rate - 150 Kbytes/sec
. Burst Rate - 2.1 Mbytes/sec
Access Time: Full stroke - 0.95 sec (typical)
. Average (random) - 0.49 sec (typical)
SONY's Users Guide for this unit is part # 3-755-260-14(1) dated 1992
Hope this helps.
AM> Thanks,
Your welcome.
Jay
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From: RHEZA JINA Number: 4484
To: JEAN-HUGUES ROYER Date: 09/23/93 6:17p
Subj: Bible related cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Jean-Hugues,
On 09-19-93 03:14, Jean-Hugues Royer wrote to All :
JR> I'd like to know if someone knows a Bible related CD with a french
JR> translation ?
There's a CD named "Holy Bible" (or something like that..) which contains
the Bible in several languages (French, German, Spanish, English), an
English translation of the Koran, and other things, totalling 191 Megs.
You can buy it in France from DP TOOL CLUB, BP 745, 59657 VILLENEUVE D'ASCQ
for 129 FF.
Hope it helps.
... When in doubt, press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 4485
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/26/93 8:15a
Subj: Caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-20-93:
GP> TT>GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compat
GP> TT>GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I sho
GP> have guessed. :-(((
GP>
GP> TT>No, no you got me wrong! It was problem with DOS-characters,
GP> everything works smooth and nicely otherwise under Windows. :-D
GP>
GP> Yeah, as long as EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING runs under Windows forever
GP> :-( Which simply isn't the case.
But even your dishwasher will run under Windows very soon... at least if
we believe Microsoft. The truth is that Windows is here to stay.
Especially lots' of CD-ROM:s benefit of Windows. It is very hard for me to
imagine how to use say DOS WP and some electronic reference libraries on
CD:s together. With plain DOS it is simply extremely clumsy.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: COR GLOUDIE Number: 4486
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 09/28/93 2:30a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system.
I'v got 3 running great!
> If anyone has been running more than 1, on their bbs, I should
> would like to know their setup.
Easy!!
Look below!!!
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\MITSUM8\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0
This one was the very first mitsumi 8 bits
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\MITSUM16\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0
This one was the first mitsumi 16 bits
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\MITSUM16\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:360 /A:0
This one was the second mitsumi 16 bits
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\PIONEER\DRD60ASP.SYS /D:MSCD000 /N:6 /S:1 /C:CDP
This one is for my Pioneer minichanger
DEVICE=C:\DOS\CDROM\FDSCSI\FDSCSI.MSC /P:340 /A:0 /M:64 /T:5 /I:3
This one is my good old LMS 212
As you can see I've used 2 different directories for the mitsumis
1 one for the 8 and 1 for the 16 bits versions as the software is not
compatible ....
And I've used for the 16 bits the Polling driver which is a little
slower than the first but.... it's always faster than 19.200 baud
for the BBS. (my users NEVER complain about speed or things like that)
The advantage of the polling driver is that it consumes less memory
and there's no problems anymore with other cards who could be in the way.
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Cor Gloudie.
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4487
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/26/93 12:48p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> * QMPro 1.51 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
AS> PST
Do you also have a FAX number??
Please give me that numer if....
Greets, Jurrie!
y
... WHAAAAT!!! Heb je nu nog geen cd-rom speler!!!!?????!!!
--- FMail 0.94
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4488
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/26/93 12:49p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB> <<< Call us for items not listed >>>
Do you have a fax numer too?????
Greetx, Jurrie!
... WHAAAAT!!! Heb je nu nog geen cd-rom speler!!!!?????!!!
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: Orion BBS - Emmen 05910-34151 - 24 uur per dag (2:512/183.0)
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4489
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/26/93 1:05p
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Susan
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP> reached to 1:231/570
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
I am interested!
Do you have a fax numer for me?
Jurrie Hobers
... WHAAAAT!!! Heb je nu nog geen cd-rom speler!!!!?????!!!
--- FMail 0.94
* Origin: Orion BBS - Emmen 05910-34151 - 24 uur per dag (2:512/183.0)
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From: CRASH MAN Number: 4490
To: ALL Date: 09/24/93 5:21p
Subj: Scsi or scsi/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen some ads claiming that their devices are SCSI/2
compliant. My question is, what is the difference (if any) between
SCSI and SCSI/2? Are the Adaptek AHA-1540C/1542C SCSI or SCSI/2?
Does it matter? Can a SCSI/2 CD be connected to SCSI and vice
versa?
Thanks to all those that reply.
* SLMR 2.1a * Psychic Convention cancelled due to unforeseen problems.
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4491
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/03/93 5:39p
Subj: Backbone status? Refer: 6938
Read: NO Private: No
-> Currently your area, CDROM, is listed on the FIDONET.SS (Southern Sta
-> listing, but not the FIDONET.NA (backbone) listing. During the next
CDROM is in my copy of FIDONET.NA...
tim
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 4492
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 8:46p
Subj: CD Rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've got two Sony CDU535 CD Roms drives with controller, cables, hookup sheet,
and driver disk for sale. They are great bbs drives as they
are fast and dependable. You can run 4 of these drives on the Sony bus, they
are NOT SCSI. This model has a headphone jack on the front, and RCA jacks
on the back of the controller card.
$300 firm (for all), plus shipping ($5 for UPS/Prepay, $30 for Fedex/COD)
Call me at 680-9060 after 6:00 pm, or send netmail.
Kevin
--- msgedsq 2.2b
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 4493
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 09/30/93 9:33p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> "All!" bellowed Corey,
> "Have you heard about 7th guest??"
CB> Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have
CB> enough base memory.
I downloaded an update from GEnie so that it only requires 450K
of conventional memory to run. The update also improved support
for the SB16ASP sound card I'm using.
Look for T7GFIX3.ZIP and T7GF3B.ZIP on a board near you.
If you have the Diamond Viper VLB, make sure to run VPRMODE VESA
before you try to run The 7th Guest.
--Glenn...
... He who dies with the most taglines wins!
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
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From: KERRY ARCHER Number: 4494
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/03/93 4:15a
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ashwin,
Saw your note about buffer memory, MSCDEX, etc. as possible culprits in 7th
Guest; I find in a related matter, that my NEC CDR-84 skips virtually all the
time when playing audio...is there a common fix for this? Is there some
command line that should be incorporated in one's config.sys or autoexec.bat
that might address this?
Many thanks!
-Kerry
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 4495
To: BOB HALL Date: 10/01/93 11:32p
Subj: X-rated cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
On 09-22-93 14:44 Bob Hall said something about X-rated cd-rom, to which I
reply:
BH> I am so impressed with your message, (especially the words "in defense
BH> of the moderator") if you will call me, 1-800-550-3503, I will send
BH> you a free CDROM!!!!!
Gee, I defended you weeks ago, and never got free anything!
... It is helpful to use both legs when standing
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 4496
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 11:32p
Subj: Toolworks Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had an interesting experience installing the Software Toolworks
Encyclopedia (DOS version 2.0). The package came with 2 floppies, one of
each size. I used the 3 1/2 inch floppy to install the access software.
It wouldn't recognize the mouse and wouldn't display the images. Also,
the configuration program (needed to change the colors, printer port,
and, most importantly, the number of "hits" that could be displayed from
any search) wouldn't work. Well, I tried everything I could think of:
commenting out various parts of config.sys and autoexec.bat, trying on a
different computer, using different DOS versions, etc. No luck. Then I
wondered if one of the floppy files was damaged, so, since I had 2
floppies, I ran comparisons on them. NONE of them compared, and one disk
had files dated a year later than the other one. Turns out the 3 1/2"
disk was version 1 and the 5 1/4" was version 2, and when I tried to
configure, I was probably using ver 2's config program on ver 1. Anyway,
it all works fine now, but for the life of me I can't figure out why the
floppies were different versions. Silly me. I assumed that when 2
floppies of different sizes come with a piece of software, that they are
intended to be interchangeable. Live & learn!
... "Why Johnny can't read"...now available on VHS!
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From: PAUL LEWIN Number: 4497
To: WILLIAM FERNANDEZ Date: 10/01/93 4:30p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust>e Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WF> I just purchased the Panasonic 563 for 379.00, it came with a
WF> 16bit sound card, speakers, and 8 cd's......
Where did you purchase this package from????? Sounds interesting...
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From: CAPTAIN JAMES T KIRK Number: 4498
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 8:48p
Subj: CD-ROM for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To whom it may concern,
I am now Co-SysOp of a BBS (StarLab BBS [819-561-2987]
and we have a CD-ROM, so after long hours of thinking it over (ok. maybe short
minites but who's counting) we would like to buy BBS ready CD-ROM's and would
appreciate any and all response. If you can help, please leave a message with
either a price list or a place where a price list is available, this in turn
would be appreciated greatly and maybe, who knows it might help you out to by
selling a CD.
Thank you for your time & Co-Operation
Fred Cantin
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4499
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Steve Goyer to All <=-
SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
^^^
Original Equipment Manufacturer. Means who actually MADE the thing, not
necessarily who markets it (perhaps under a different name).
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: STEVE STEWART Number: 4500
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 11:54a
Subj: Encylopedia CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a real good Encyclopedia CD with full motion video in it. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4501
To: DAAN VAN.ROOIJEN Date: 10/02/93 9:37a
Subj: How much to cut own CD? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> A relation of mine is considering publishing his own monthly or bi-mo
-> CD-ROM. It will contain app 100 MB of data which will be supplied to
-> producer on floppy disks. He will need app 1,000 copies per CD-ROM.
As of July of this year, Sony was doing the mastering and everything
for a startup fee of 1000.00 (first timers only, 1400.00 afterwards).
After that, there is a $1.72 per copy charge for the cd's. Naturally
there is also extra charges if you want extra fast (24 hour) turn
around times etc... Yo might also give Disk Manuf a try. They might be
a little better. Also another option is to purchasing a write once cd
recorder for aprox 3,000-4,000 for the unit. It might cut down on the
cost a little. Also consider finding another way to send the data, as
floppys are not the best answer for large amounts of data and you
might end up paying more just due to that. Hope this helps a little.
(If you need phone numbers for Disk Manuf or Sony, drop me a note and
I'll send them to you.)
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4502
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/02/93 9:43a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of problem
-> special configuration required or something to run under MS-DOS 6.0.
-> Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's the scoop, guys?
Its not with the Mitsumi CD-Rom but with Dos 6. There is a new version
of Microsoft extensions (MSCDEX.EXE) that needs to be used. Under Dos
6, if you dont use the later mecdex.exe the unit will state incorrect
dos version when it goes through the autoexec.bat file.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4503
To: MARK RICHARDSON Date: 10/02/93 9:48a
Subj: WC2 cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have been looking everywhere for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-RO
-> good price.. Is any one or business here selling it? BTW: it is t
-> with Special Ops 1,2 and the speech pack, NOT the one with Ultima 6
Actually I am shocked your local stores do not have it. I have not seen
it in OEM but I have had it on the shelf simce it came out. The new
versions come with Wing Commander II, Secret Missions 1 & 2, Speech
Pack, and Ultima Underworld. The price is 59.99 plus shipping. You can
reach us at S.E.C. Custom Computers in Louisville Ky (502) 448-9397.
--- WM v3.01/92-0136
* Origin: SEC Custom Computers BBS - Louisville, (1:2320/330. (1:2320/330.0)
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 4504
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 2:07p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
RE> So, from that, unless I grab the SB 2.0 again for a "real" test, I'd
RE> have to say the SB 16 ASP was a far superior device for MM....
It would bloody well want to be for the price ;-)
RE> But then
RE> again, it could've been the way the samples were recorded....
I'm glad you also found the STW audio samples 'hissy' on the SB16 ASP.
I suppose hiss is what I meant by distortion.
RE> How's the sound on the 1963 Civil Rights March video clip?? (Just a
RE> long one selected at random!).....
Quite clear on the SB mono, though once again quite hissy.
Regards, Alan
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From: MARKUS GOEBEL Number: 4505
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 11:22a
Subj: Pioneer CD ROM changer wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gday,
I'm looking for a Pioneer 6-stack CD-ROM changer. Not sure whether I'll go for
the standard model or the quad-spin unit. I'm interested in prices from both
Australia as well as the USA. For prices from US, I'd need to know; does the
unit support 240volt mains power (50hz)?
Will look at new as well as second hand units.
Reply via netmail to me at 3:712/504 (Fido) or in this echo if you don't have
netmail access.
Regards, Markus.
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4506
To: ADIAN SALAS Date: 10/02/93 12:15a
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! I would appreciate greatly one of those catalogues. Please send
to:
Paul Nixon
PO BOX 539,
LILYDALE,
VIC, 3140
AUSTRALIA
Regards,
Paul.
... Paul Nixon. Paul.Nixon@f503.n635.z3.fidonet.org 3:635/503
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4507
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/02/93 12:17a
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Neil,
Hi! I would appreciate greatly one of those catalogues. Please send
to:
Paul Nixon
PO BOX 539,
LILYDALE,
VIC, 3140
AUSTRALIA
Regards,
Paul.
... Paul Nixon. Paul.Nixon@f503.n635.z3.fidonet.org 3:635/503
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4508
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 1:37p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> 300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) tha
RE> goes to 330Kbps...
These drives also have an improved access time of 290 ms.
They sound quite good.
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From: DON PUGH Number: 4509
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 7:12a
Subj: MPC2 Specifications Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MPC 2 Standards (Courtesy of Don Pugh, Perth, Western Australia)
An MPC 2 compliant Personal Computer will
adhere to or exceed the following specifications:
486 SX-25 with 4 MBytes of RAM
160 MByte Hard Disk Drive
1.44 Mbyte Floppy Disk Drive
DOS version 3.1 or greater
Windows 3.1 or greater
Mouse
Graphics resolution of 640 x 480 pixels in
65536 colours or better
Please note this is recommended to be
S3 Windows accelerator card or better
Video transfer rate of 1.2 Megapixels per
second occupying not more than 40% of the CPU (processor) band width.
Sound Card
16 bit digital audio sound capabilities
- record and playback
8 Note Synthesiser
MIDI Playback
MIDI I/O
Joystick I/O
CD-ROM drive with
average seek time less than 400 milliseconds
Sustained transfer rate of 300 kbits per
second while using less than 40 % of the processor bandwidth
CD XA (Extended Architecture) ready
Multisession Capable -not relating to Photo CD
Digital to Analog Audio output
Recommended System Configuration
Computer system to have 8 MB RAM
CD-ROM Drive to have an onboard 64 KB buffer
CD-ROM to have XA (Extended Architecture) capability
- this allows for the interleaving of audio and video simultaneously
Audio Compression capability of IMA
Adapted AD-PCM (pulse code modulation) algorhythm.
Please note the Kodak Photo CD single and
multisession specifications are not part of the MPC2 specifications.
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From: ROBERT FROST Number: 4510
To: EVERYONE Date: 10/02/93 3:15p
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says
Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a mistake?
The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
Robert Frost, Lodestone
BBS, NSW, Australia . Sysop: Ian Mcwhirter.
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From: MARK BOWMAN Number: 4511
To: CARY HUMPHERIES Date: 10/01/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Chris Moore to Steve Proctor <=-
CM> Hi Steve
> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
CM> I have a copy on my BBS. If the BBS you're using lets you FREQ files,
CM> please feel free to request it from me (1:244/110). It's called
CM> OS2_LU.ZIP.
CM> Chris
CM> -!- TBBS v2.1/NM
CM> ! Origin: OSH Exchange - Hamilton, Ontario (1:244/110)
Cary,
I seen your message, Needing OS2 cd-rom driver for Mitsumi. Hope this
may help you out.
Mark Bowman.
... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BILL GOCHNOUR Number: 4512
To: ERIC ENGELMANN Date: 10/01/93 3:34p
Subj: Technical CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=>The way I heard it Eric Engelmann told All ...<=-
EE> EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE
EE> different.
I can also see that you are not accurately reporting the facts here. I know
that Night Owl 9 has files in several of the sections you state they don't.
See below....
EE> EMS SMS3 Pier2 SS2 NOwl9 Win93 SV2
EE> C/C++ 1046 98 288 216
EE> OS/2 338
EE> VBasic Windows 534 59 130
EE> Windows Utils 739 Mixed
Additionally while double checking these sections I also found that at least
one of your file counts was wrong for Night Owl 9. (only off by one but
hey... There may be a trend here...) Also more files doesn't always equal
better files.
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From: CEES HEIM Number: 4513
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 4:47p
Subj: SUN CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dous any body know of the existence of a driver for a SUN CD-ROM wich
i will use under DOS. It seems that these ROMS are OEM SONY. Please help !!
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From: LEVIEN VAN ZON Number: 4514
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:32p
Subj: ATARI SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED:
A CDROM disk containing ATARI ST pd/shareware.
Has somebody got this disk, or does someone know if it exists? Please
send me a mail...
-Levien (FIDOnet: 2:280/802)
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 4515
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 8:04p
Subj: Phoenix 4.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, the CD that I am fixing to get for my board is Phoenix 4.0. Would
anyone happen to know what all that would happen to have on it? Just
wondering.
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From: JESS STOUT Number: 4516
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/01/93 10:04p
Subj: CDROM System IRQs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
About ready to buy a CDROM System and sound card. Are there any IRQ
and addresse jumpers that must be set for this type of system to
work? If so, which IRQs and addresses do they use? Thanks, Jess.
... Security, confine Ensign Osadciw to the brig.
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From: RICK GRAF Number: 4517
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/28/93 7:34p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> On 09-16-93, Adrian Salas said to All!
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS>your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
RG> I would like one of your catalogs. Please send to:
RG> Ricky A. Graf
RG> 909 Meadowood Dr
RG> Virginia Beach, Va
RG> 23452
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From: RICK GRAF Number: 4518
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/28/93 7:40p
Subj: Re: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Maurice Villarreal to Neil Bergman <=-
RG> Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
RG> Send to:
RG> Ricky Graf
RG> 909 Meadowood Dr
RG> Virginia Beach, Va
RG> 23452
RG> Thanx.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 4519
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 1:04p
Subj: CD-ROM SOURCE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Canada's CD-ROM Source is...
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 4520
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 1:05p
Subj: CURRENT HITS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
files are from the exclusive premium Superboard collection, and
this disc uses the best, most-versatile, and easy-to-use interface
on any CD-ROM to date. No archive errors, BBS ads, known viruses,
or AV codes... .ZIP archive dates match the latest date within the
archive. Call 306-789-4654 or fax 306-789-8690 for your copy today!
** BONUS ** For $69 Canadian, receive the full set of Vol 1, 2 & 3!
--- The Mail Box [NR]
* Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 4521
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 10/02/93 10:47a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Golby to Steve Gerweck <=-
SG> Which BB do you have?
SG> The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that
SG> means the first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
Does your BB feature Playboy GIF's?
Steve
... Redundancy: An airbag in Hillary Clintons car.
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From: DANIEL PRINCE Number: 4522
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 6:30a
Subj: Seventh Guest problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
My Brother can't run the CDROM program "Seventh Guest"
on his 486DX-33 system. He thought it was because his VGA card
was too slow but he replaced his VGA card with a "Diamond
Speedstar Pro" and it still does the same thing. What happens is
that during the introduction numerals start appearing in the
upper left corner of the screen and colored blocks appear across
the screen about two thirds down from the top of the screen.
After about ten seconds of this the computer locks up. If he has
Qemm loaded, he gets an exception 13 error message. He says it
also locks up without Qemm loaded. (He doesn't use DV.) He says
that if he configures his PAS to emulate the "Adlib" card which
doesn't use DMA, the program go farther before it crashes.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how he can get this program
to run on his machine? He has already tried changing the
interrupts on his sound card and CD rom controller and running
without any TSRs etc. Thank you in advance for all replies.
... It's better to have chilly weather than con carne weather.
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From: ROY FUNG Number: 4523
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/03/93 12:06p
Subj: CDs' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, please send a catalog of your CDs' - incl. those for Macintosh -
(not drives) to me at:
311 Bryan Oak Ave
BRANDON
FL, 33511
Thanks, Roy.
... Wanna live to be 100? Give up things that make u want to.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4524
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 6:01a
Subj: $375 for Toshiba CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Multimedia kit. SB Pro+Philips 205 CDROM+9 CDs+Speakers........$339.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. SR-562 CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$389
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$469
Mitsumi CDROM+Sound Galaxy NX Pro card.........................$279
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4525
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 6:03a
Subj: CDROM titles forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
Dictionaries and Languages......$19* Dinosaur Adventure..............$35
Desert Storm MPC/ Mac only......$29 Dr Music vol.I 5,000 sharewares.$29
D/Generation....................$19* DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art......$29
Elec Lib of Art v.I or v.II.....$35 Essential home & bus. sharewares$19*
Family Education Programs Collec$29 Family choice/ Britannica.......$29
Family Doctor Dos/Mac...........$29 Great Cities Vol. I or V II.....$35
Guinness Disk of Record 93 MPC..$29 Guinness Disk of Records no MPC.$19*
Games Pack II...................$25 International Bus & Econ Atlas..$29
Jones In fast Lane MPC..........$19* Jets & Props MPC 2CDs...........$29
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: PAUL DELLAVALLE Number: 4526
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:06a
Subj: Sony 7205 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is there another cheaper drive that will work with the 7205 drive I have
now on the same controller card? I have the external Sony lazer Libaray
and would like to and another drive even if its internal. Any help is
appreciated.
--- WM v2.02/92-0039
* Origin: Camas Chatter Box ! BBS (206) 834-6789 (1:105/123)
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From: CHRISTOPHE DELABBE Number: 4527
To: STEVE THOMPSON Date: 09/29/93 9:10p
Subj: Which CD-Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking for a new cd-drive and I am looking for suggestions.
> I have £250 to spend.
> I am looking for it to plug into my Sound Blaster Pro, It must be
> standard ( Whatever that is ), I also need it to play audio sound.
you must buy a panasonic double spin cd rom cr562 B it s fully compatible with
sb pro and it works great !!!! (i ve just bought one 5 days ago and it s
smashing) there is also an uprade proposed by creative labs with the same
player called "omnicd creative labs cd rom" ,you just have to plug a cable in
your sb pro and that s all folks!!!
hope to hear from you soon!!!!!
> Any help is greatfully recieved.
> (-* Gonzo *-)
> --- GEcho 1.00
> * Origin: From the Lair of the Dragon - 0382 452149 (0:0/0)
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* Origin: Mosacom Liège, Christophe Delabbé (2:293/2201.163)
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From: BOB NEAL Number: 4528
To: RICH RUBIN Date: 10/02/93 5:10p
Subj: Re: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> Thank you for your reply about my selling my own copy of Encarta
RR>Microsoft. I am selling it for $105 but you offered $35. You
RR>that you can get this cd for a few dollars more than I'm selling it
RR> Really? Can you tell me where? I know you aren't going to answer
RR>by it. This is the way it works. Encarta is currently selling at
RR>CompUSA for $279!!! [As of yesterday 9/26/93] In the future if you
Just for your information Rich, I just read that Microsoft is planning
to release Encarta on CD for $99! According to the source, Wall Street
Journal article, Microsoft is looking to get into the entertainment and
educational software big time. The $99 is a special price that they
intend to offer through year end after which it will return to the
overpriced $395 price.
--- MsgToss 2.0b
# Origin: Electric Estates - Romeoville,IL - 1-815-886-0109 (8:7401/424)
* Origin: FamilyNet Intl. Echogate [708] 887-7685 (1:115/887)
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 4529
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 2:11p
Subj: Technical Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE different.
EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:301-963-2708
Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.
EMS SMS3 Pier2 SS2 NOwl9 Win93 SV2
Access 212
Assembler 400 17 15
C/C++ 1046 98 288 216
AutoCAD 876 51 45 30 34
Xbase 3146 53 83 82 502
Netware 974 58 48 42 172
ObjectVision 95
OS/2 338
Paradox 556
Sci/Eng 146 53 38 25 85
SmallBusiness 273
Spreadsheet 352 11 55 15 50 27
TrueType 752 218 112 749
TurboPascal 703 67 264 30 169
VBasic Windows 534 59 130
VBDOS/QB/PDS 234 130
Windows Utils 739 Mixed
EMS Professional Shareware, 10'93 (ships Oct.1, Dec.1, Feb.1)
SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
Win93 - Windows 1993
SV2 - Software Vault #2
The categories chosen are EMS's. Each of the other CD-ROMs has LOTS
more files in other categories. They are wonderful products for PC
generalists. EMS's focus is the PC professional. If you aren't a specialist,
the other CD-ROMs are better for you. If you are a programmer, AutoCAD,
Netware, etc. professional, get the right tool for the job.
--- GEcho 1.00/beta
* Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519)
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From: JOHN LUNDY Number: 4530
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/02/93 8:21p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
SG>___
Hope you like getting mail. I'm sure you'll hear a lot from this...
"Original Equipment Manufacturer"
* QMPro 1.51 * Cut my pizza in six slices, please; I can't eat eight.
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From: JOHN LUNDY Number: 4531
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 10/02/93 8:22p
Subj: Thanks for the responses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET>What's up All!
ET>Are there any other shareware CD's that will run under a door like Mega-Demo
ET>My BBS system does not use any other BBS's file structures. (i.e FILES.BBS)
ET>run Harmony. Thanks in advance.
The "So Much Shareware" series has it's own door setup you may want to
look into.
John
* QMPro 1.51 * Please stand by... Experiencing Tagline Difficulties
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From: MARTY ESCARCEGA Number: 4532
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/03/93 9:14a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail, when is Night Owl's 10 scheduled to be released? I'd like a copy. Is
the cost $20?
>>> Marty <<<
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From: DWIGHT BRIMLEY Number: 4533
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 8:44p
Subj: CD's FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I HAVE TWO CD'S FOR SALE. TOO MUCH STAREWARE (ADULT GIFS & ANIMATIONS, 500MEGS)
AND MICROSOFT WORD WITH BOOKSHELF. BOTH ARE NEW IN THE BOX. I WOULD LIKE TO GET
$25 FOR THE STAREWARE AND $100 FOR MICROSORFT WORD. LEAVE ME A MESSAGE IF YOU
ARE INTERESTED. THANKS.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Pandora's Box * Eugene OR * (503)343-4520 * HST/DS * (1:152/6)
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4534
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Shareware Explorer
]]] SIZE: [1] 447 Megs [2] 482 Megs [3] 523 Megs [4] 498 Megs
]]] FILES: [1] 8688 [2] 6083 [3] 5084 [4] 6996
]]] PUBLISHER: New Frontiers CD-ROMs
]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready
]]] DATED: 08-06-93
I approached this set wondering to myself if they had managed to break
the "multi-disc cruddiness" that I've noticed in other multi-disc
collections. By this, I mean that with one notable exception, every
multi-disc set that I've come across has been rather... annoying.
They had several problems, too many to bother with mentioning here.
The only exception was World Vision.
World Vision still holds that title in my book.
I started out by browsing the disc looking for highlights. And boy,
did I find them, in spades. But, I'll get to that later, and take
this in my normal pattern.
When attempting to install the end user interface, I was greeted by two
executable files... a GO.BAT and an INSTALL.EXE. I selected the GO.BAT
at first, and found, much to my annoyance, that it only displayed text
files. I read some of them, found some useful and a lot of totally
useless information, and went on to the INSTALL.EXE. After supplying
the data that it requested, it installed the program to my hard drive,
and I was off.
Or was I? It turns out that the install did nothing more than install
a short batchfile that referred to nothing in particular in regards to
the disc, or the interface program. Feeling that NOTHING could be
THAT dumb, I decided to have other people test the disc to see if they
could make it work, or if it really was as dumb as it looked.
I put my wife, Korene, in front of it, and offered no help. I figured
that this would be a good test, simulating someone that doesn't know
DOS as an expert and would have to use the user interface. After
several minutes of utter confusion trying to make heads or tails of
what it was doing, she ended up with the exact same results that I got.
In other words, nothing. When asked what she thought of the user
interface on the disc, her reply was short and to the point.
Unfortunately, it cannot be reprinted here.
Korene works at a local VA Hospital as a computer processing manager,
but her knowledge of DOS systems is not up to her professional
knowledge. She normally works with the voice activated systems that
she has to maintain. Luckily, my system is not voice activated, because
I'm not sure how it would have interpreted the string of "commands"
that she gave it once she was done attempting to make it work.
Ok, last chance... I turned Scott Reigle loose on it. Scott is the
SysOp of Farkem Asylum, a gaming board. Scott has configured several
hundred different BBS programs for his board, and I figured that he was
our last, greatest hope.
Well, Scott tried a different tactic, got different messages, and ended
up with the exact same results. Yeesh. Scott's reaction was, while
not quite as colorful as Korene's, quite enlightening. Something that
I cannot say about the software.
I finally got the software operational using the /nowrite option and
running it right from the CD-ROM. What greeted me was one of the
slowest CD-ROM interfaces that I've ever had the misfortune to come
across.
To say that I wasn't pleased would be an understatement.
Ok, lets go look at the BBS readiness of the disc....
The files in the discs are arranged in subdirectories named A001, A002,
A003, etc. Not terribly descriptive, but easy to configure in a BBS
door. Each subdirectory had in it a FILES.BBS in the following format:
AFFORD.ZIP [0] Annuity Calculation Program (asp).
This was the only file listing provided in the subdirectories. These
are among the most difficult to use on other systems, because of the
lack of information.
... to be continued....
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4535
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
One subdirectory had in it a series of files that are supposed to help
you convert this disc to other formats. I can't speak of the
veracity of the files, but I checked for a utility to convert to
Spitfire, the BBS system that I use, and there were two Spitfire
programs, neither of which would convert anything to anything else.
One was for the creation of SFFILES.BBS from scratch, the other was for
updating the header info with how many files there were. Yup, serious
BBS support there.
The only thing useful that I found was that they had actually put in
PCBoard style listings in the \SYSOPS\PCBOARD directory. Without this,
you are going to have fun making what you need to run this title. Now,
if you *manage* to get the user interface running, it tells you that
you can output to your printer one of several different formats, only
a couple of which resembled anything that I had heard of, but after
playing with the user interface, I figured why bother printing a 500k
file listing in Nixpix format? I had no guarantee that the darned
thing would work anyway, and to be honest, I didn't really care to
find out after all the hassles that I had with that program already.
By the way, the collection of files that were placed in the
\SYSOPS\OTHERS subdirectory looked VERY much like the same
collection of files that I've seen on another BBS ready CD-ROM's
recently. Hmmm..... Oh, the original collection didn't have anything
for Spitfire either... <grin!>
Ok, now for the REALLY fun stuff... <smile!>
I thought that I had seen some really silly licensing agreements in the
past, such as the one attached to PC-SIG discs. But this one took the
ever-loving cake. I have never seen such a silly licensing agreement
in all my life. Let me quote you a few pertinent sections. I'm going
to use the "|" character to show you where I'm quoting...
From the file \INFO\BBS.TXT
| The use of The New Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROMs on
| electronic bulletin board systems (BBS) is prohibited without a
| license from New Frontiers. This License Agreement is between New
| Frontiers nd the BBS operator whose signature appears at the end of
| this Agreement. In return for the limited right to use The New
| Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROM the BBS Licensee agrees to the
| provisions of this License. This Agreement allows the BBS Licensee
| to use The New Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROM for the period
| of one year from the date of this License.
Ok, let's see if I've figured this one out... I can't run this on my
BBS unless I print out their licensing agreement, sign it, and send
it back to them. Got that? Good, lets go on...
|5. BBS Licensee agrees not to download files and/or programs from the
| New Frontiers Shareware Explorer disc with the intent to sell the
| copy. Downloading is defined as the process of copying or
| duplicating a file from New Frontiers Shareware Explorer CD-ROM
| disc onto other media, including, but not limited to, diskettes,
| hard drives, magnetic tape or optical disc, for the intentional or
| unintentional purposes of sales, distribution or financial gain.
| The BBS Licensee cannot side-step the issue of a sale by claiming
| that they have only charged for consulting time, the cost of the
| diskette, online time, or for labor charges only.
Hold on here... no one can "sell" any file on this disc to anyone else.
Did you notice the line stating "The BBS Licensee cannot side-step the
issue of a sale by claiming that they only charged for... online time?"
Ok... what that means to *me* is that if you charge ANYTHING for access
to your board and/or the CD-ROM Files, you CANNOT use this disc on your
board!
|8. If Licensee violates any provisions of this Agreement, New Frontier
| can terminate this License and continued violations may possibly
| lead to subsequent legal action by New Frontiers, among other
| causes of action, for violation of New Frontiers License,
| registered trademark(s) and/or copyright(s).
Nice. I guess if they find that you charged $10.00 to access your
board, they not only pull your license, but they can sue you, as well.
How cute.
|9. The License fee is as follows:
|
| both CD-ROMS on his system. You need only pay once, but a separate
| license form must be completed and returned for each CD-ROM disc
| you run on-line.
|
| License fees are due and payable within 30 days of your purchase of
| this CD-ROM disc. All licenses are non-transferable.
Ok, now you have to return a copy of their licensing form for each disc,
and pay a licensing fee for the privilege of using this disc for one
year at their discretion. Oh joy. The fact that the fee is small is
not the point to me... it's the fact that not only do you have to pay
twice for this disc, but you have to sign FOUR forms, and meet every
term of their licensing agreements in order to run this disc.
... to be continued....
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4536
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: The Hacker Chronicles
]]] SIZE: 145 Megs
]]] FILES: 6394
]]] PUBLISHER: S&S Publishing
]]] CATEGORY: Information / Some Shareware/PD
]]] DATED: 02-25-93
This disc doesn't quite fit into any mold that I'm using to seeing
on the materials that I look at. The information on this disc is not
"illegal" per se, although if you were to attempt to use it, you might
find yourself in some hot water.
This disc is a collection of text files & programs dealing mostly with
the "Computer Underground" and related materials. Looking over this
disc, I found information ranging on "how to play phone pranks" (these
being about as sophisticated as "Do You Have Prince Albert in the Can?")
to hard info on telephone and credit information repositories, to a
rather interesting text written by an alleged "Ninja" (with very bad
use of the English language) on how to infect a victim with Hepatitis.
Reading through some of the material on the disc is rather fascinating.
I must admit that this disc could provide a large amount of
"entertainment" if someone was of evil intent.
This disc had a very crude BBS support built in... each directory has
a text file in it that is named "dirname.DIR" with the "dirname" being
the name of the directory. The file listings look like this, pretty
much (they don't all fit in the same pattern):
cud100a.txt cud100a.txt Moderator's Introduction
As you can see, this one will take a LOT of work to get ready for BBS
usage... assuming you are brave enough to use this online! <smile!>
As a BBS ready disc, I have to give this one a thumbs down. The
information is quite "explosive" (sometimes literally) and the BBS
listings will require a LOT of work to make usable. The disc is only
145 Megs in size, so it's nowhere near a full disc.
For the end user or Sysop interested in information for themselves,
this could be quite a find, depending on what you are looking for.
There is a lot of fascinating information here, and perhaps it would
be worth it to you to have one lying around.
Personally, I think that I'm going to snarf a couple of the directories
off of it to put in my magnetic files base.. there is some fascinating
stuff on there that could be of use, even to the totally legitimate
callers that have no interest in shady activities.
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4537
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Lan Master Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Lan Master
]]] SIZE: 91 Megs
]]] FILES: 2255
]]] PUBLISHER: High Tech Productions
]]] CATEGORY: Local Area Networking Information
]]] DATED: 09-30-1986 (According to CHKCD Command)
The disc advertises itself as over 100 Megs of high quality Network
Utilities, patches, tech notes, multiplayer games, communications
programs and many other useful references and files. Well, as you
can see by my CHKCD readout, there is only 91 megs on the disk total,
so someone missed something somewhere....
The creation date was rather... amusing. I found files in the disc
dating 1991 and 1992, but according to all the filemarks, this disc
was made in 1986. Why was such a silly date applied to the disc?
It can do nothing but hurt it.
This disc is NOT BBS ready in the conventional sense. I did manage to
find some PCBoard style BBS listings for SOME of the files, but these
were NOT well marked, and they didn't cover a large portion of the files
on the disc. Overall, very disappointing. Of course, even if it did
have decent file listings, the 91 Meg size of the disc means that it
would be terribly inefficient to use as a BBS disc, but at least you
could use it to beef up your magnetic file section.
The disc was obviously set up for the end user market, and I found the
menu interface to be unremarkable, but at least it was functional, with
no problems detected in use. That's more than I can say for a lot
of menus... <grin!>
I was a bit underwhelmed by some of the file sections on this disc...
there was specific mention of multiplayer games on the disc, and I was
rather disappointed to find only eight games on the disc in the LAN
games section. The multitasking section had 37 files listed on it,
and it didn't have any cover space dedicated to it at all... I guess
they figured that the games, skimpy though they be, would be a greater
draw than the multitasker section.
Overall, I'm not impressed. It might service as a reference item for
some technojocks, but otherwise, I can't really recommend it. It's not
BBS ready in any meaningful fashion, and there is nothing here that you
could really want to bother with as a SysOp anyway, with the lack of
decent file descriptions on most of the files.
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 4538
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Tech Arsenal Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
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The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Tech Arsenal
]]] SIZE: 629 Megs
]]] FILES: 7441
]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer
]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready
]]] DATED: 09-03-93
No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID
publish this disc! <smile!> However, lest you think that I'm going
to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer
a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my
stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!> I'm going
to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going
to be just as frank as I would for anyone else. I don't play favorites
here.
Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc
that I would have to trash? <SEG!> I have been looking at everyone
else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed
my disc accordingly.
So, with that out of the way, here goes.
Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming
utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and
applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing
and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design,
Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on
this disc.
File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the
fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs
have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991. However, please bear
in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later
version was found.
Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum. Why not
entirely gone, you might ask? Simply put, I found some duplicate
filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each
other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have
application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that
would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each
section, rather than making the people interested only in one section
have to go "hunting" for it in others. These files are on there
quite intentionally to make it easier to use. However, the percentage
of such files is VERY small.
BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!). File listings are provided
in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file
Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your
own very easily, if you so desire. All but the DBF files are available
in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file
subdirectory. The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself)
ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those
that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the
BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps,
are not left out in the cold.
The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in
subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21. The File listings are in
/FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the
subdirectory /SYSOPS. Simple enough, eh? <Grin!>
Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this...
in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual
program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface,
as written by Mike Robinson. Mike's door program, run in local mode,
provides a very quick search engine and a very easy way to transfer
the files to your hard drive for use. It is easily the fastest
CD-ROM based search engine that I have seen, and I hope that the
exposure that the Shareware version of this program generates will
help Mike in getting more BBS registrations for his excellent product.
... to be continued....
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From: CLYDE FUSSELL Number: 4539
To: DALE A COOK Date: 10/03/93 9:23a
Subj: BLOKIT INOVATIONS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
* Origin: Talkin' Ring Network - Nashville TN (1:116/71)
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From: CROSSED WIRES FILE PATROL Number: 4540
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 1:01a
Subj: New Files Available Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Today, Sunday 03-10-93, Crossed Wires BBS (809:919/1) received the
following files.
Area : Private Zip Files Comment : SysOp And Private
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PRIVATE.ZIP 1,403
PRIVNEW.ZIP 1,383
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2,786 bytes in 2 file(s)
Total of 2,786 in 2 file(s)
File requests are welcome 23 hrs per day, from 04:00-03:00.
FREQ FILES for an allfiles listing.
Thanks, David (Using ALLFIX v4.21/beta-7, "Simply the Best")
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.Euripides
--- RA 2.01+/IM 2.23/DV 2.42
* Origin: Crossed Wires BBS, Dudley NC, U.S.A. (809:919/1)
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4541
To: DAVID SILVER Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS>I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the CD-Rom plug into an
DS>expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an empty
If price is more importance then get the new Panasonic with controller
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4542
To: STEVE THOMPSON Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Which CD-Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ST>I am looking for a new cd-drive and I am looking for suggestions.
The Panasonic would work with your Sound Blaster Pro or any CDROM
which come with controller.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4543
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
SG>___
Original Equipment Manufacture
It is also mean the part are Genuine equipment but sell under other
names.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4544
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: Panasonic CR562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GMJ>OK, I tried, got no reply, I'll try again: Are there any
GMJ>dealers out there who can ship a <subj> to Zimbabwe, what
GMJ>are their FAX NUMBERS and do they offer any deals? I HAVE
For International customer, I can ship freight collect via United
Parcel Service. Which mean you just send bank draft with US dollars
for amount purchase. When the parts arrived, you will pay the freight
charge with UPS.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
Price does not included shipping. Fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave.
Paramount, CA 90723. USA
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 4545
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/03/93 10:03a
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ER>Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me all
ER>the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
PC-SIG Sharewares 12th Edition..$29 PC-SIG sharewares games.........$19*
Secret Weapons/ Luftwaffe.......$19* Shareware April 1993............$29
So much Shareware Disk II or I..$19* Shareware overload..............$19*
Winware Volume 3................$29 What alot of Sharewares.........$19*
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 4546
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 10/03/93 8:38p
Subj: Seventh Guest problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I have had the game also and what happened to me was it would say
some kind of error message when ever I went to solve a puzzle. It was
funny cause it would let you go through the whole house and do what you
wanted (Provided cuz you couldn't really go anywhere wothout solving
probs) but I couldn't figure out why it screwed up on me either. I have
heard alot of rumors about some of the bugs that are in it but who
knows?
Pirate
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From: SOPH PETROU Number: 4547
To: CHARLES CARTER Date: 10/02/93 9:32a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CC>Answering a msg of <17 Sep 93>, from Soph Petrou to All:
CC>No you can not ,we spent all last weekend trying to do this with
CC>two cards.You need a scsi card and scsi CD Rom to be able to
CC>hook the CD's in a chain.
CC>Charles
Thanx, we wasted just about the same amount of time, oh well off to SCSI we go.
SOPH...
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4548
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 10/01/93 10:01p
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Don,
I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here in
Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on two CD-ROM's but he wasnt
sure of the price since they hadnt had much call for it..."
.
Personally, I rekon it would be a fantastic reference to have on my desk at
home...
.
Hope this helps,
Regards from The Great Southern Land...
Andrew Larmour
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From: PAUL NIEUWENHUIZE Number: 4549
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 10/01/93 4:00p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
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ML> I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics
ML> Ultra Pro 2mb vram EISA version.... about the only card I
ML> know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score 100%...
Marcus I have just installed this same card in my machine. I have had
problems trying to
run under OS/2 and had to get the Beta drvers to Install. Could you please
contact me
or leave your number for me to contact you if I could talk to you about this
card and
software.
* KWQ/2 1.2 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: LES SZABO Number: 4550
To: DYLAN GARTON Date: 10/03/93 5:19a
Subj: CD Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'DAY, I reckon I'll know this week!.
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From: NEIL ATWOOD Number: 4551
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/03/93 6:49a
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Yo Chris!
> Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I've
>
> seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
> though (bummer....)... Look around in this echo for ads from some of
> the
> dealers and see what deals they offer....
> Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these
> suckers...
> (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
G'day Rowan,
Just curious, but can you clarify what you mean by reverse parity on the NEC
drives?
I have a an NEC CDR74 running off an Adaptec 1542B and do have fairly regular
hangs on th SCSI bus. I think I have parity set OK. I'm using the current APSI
driver and CDROM driver.
Would appreciate your comments.
Cheers!
<Neil><
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From: DANNY MCCLATCHEY Number: 4552
To: VICKI CRAWFORD Date: 10/01/93 10:55p
Subj: Re: cd-rom club Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Vicki Crawford to David Pomeroy <=-
VC> In a msg on <Sep 16, 1993>, David Pomeroy wrote to All:
DP> Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or
DP> possibly Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to
DP> set one up, as it is badly needed for us down under users.
VC> There is already one going in Australia.
VC> Details from
VC> Stephen Ranson
VC> Australian CD-ROM Club
Vicki
I think you're confusing a commercial enterprise, as is Stephen Ranson's
"Australian CD-ROM Club", with a non-profit organisation like the PC
Users Group of 'any location'. Whilst the ACC would no doubt be a good
source of CDROM information (any business worth it's salt would do no
less, and if that source is of interest to ANY, just look in the marketplace
ads at the rear of Australian Personal Computer - there must be at least
half a dozen companies specialising in the sale of CDROMs advertising there
alone), I think David Pomeroy's intent was that of a pooling of expertise
for the 'profit' of knowledge. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong David).
Regards,
Danny
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4553
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/30/93 3:54p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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RE>> 300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) that
RE>> goes to 330Kbps...
The Specs I have for the CR533 are :
Internal SCSI-2 CD Reader
Interface, Manuals & Device Drivers
Caddy, Controller, 290ms Access
306kb/s data transfer rate, 128/256k buffer
XA ready, Auto Eject, Kodac Photo CD
Double Velocity.
In short, it seems to be the double speed variety of the CR532 (153kb/s)
Best Regards, Ian Bishop
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 4554
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/01/93 9:39p
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD>>Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer in
CD>>the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in New
CD>>Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
CD>>Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
CD>>under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
CD>>under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand is
CD>>dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in from
CD>>Singapore.
What do you think about this lot Rowan? Seems as though the market may
have been given a hell of a bump all of a sudden. I di notice that at
the Queenland Computer Expo today that no Panasonic CD-ROM on the
Panasonic stand. The only drives resembling the panasonic were in Full
MM kits. I just wonder what will happen to the support for all those
users with (theoretically) orphaned 562s?
Regards, Ian
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From: CHRIS PASCOE Number: 4555
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 3:33p
Subj: pro audiospectrum 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day everyone out there!
Has anyone had a problem with the Media Vision Pro Audio
Spectrum 16 when trying to assign a 16 bit DMA channel (i.e.
4, 5 or 6)?
I recently purchased one of these so as to use the 16 bit DMA
but its installation program locks up the computer, beeps the
speaker and throws garbage to the screen when you ask it to
test any of 4, 5 or 6.
It's been tried in 2 different computers, with and without any
device drivers loaded but to no avail. The only other cards
in the systems (486dx33 and 386dx40) are their video cards and
IDE multifunction...
Do you think its somehow a faulty PAS board?
Please help!!!
Chris
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From: MICHAEL COOPER Number: 4556
To: RAY DYER Date: 10/03/93 11:01a
Subj: Cd Rom Scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RAY DYER said to ALL on 09-21-93 about CD ROM SCRATCHES
RD> Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is
RD>caused by even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust
RD>from even before first use?
RD>
RD>Reason is that the CD ROM works just fine until certain areas of the
RD>disk are hit.
RD>......
RD>I have a Mitsumi drive (005s) and other CD Roms that used to work now
RD>suddenly don't. The scratched are seen to travel from the centre to t
RD>edge and therefore should not pose a problem.
Hi Ray,
Bad news I'm afraid! The problem will be the laser diode. These can
weaken with age, the cheaper one's are worse than the rest. This
problem is also common with audio CD players. Depending on the brand,
the diodes will last from 2 years to about 8 years. I had an early
model Sony Discman I bought in 1985, it ran beautifully for years and
had very heavy use. Around 1 year ago it started to get skittish about
some CD's. One's that played OK for years started acting up! I took it
for service and that's what they told me. It was almost cheaper to buy
an new one than get it repaired, so I bought a new one.
As the beam from the diode weakens from age the servo mechanisms cannot
track properly, hence the failure. If your Mitsumi is a couple of years
old, then probably this will be the problem. If under warranty, should
get it fixed. If you have the money, get a new drive.
Regards,
Mike, Sydney, OZ
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 4557
To: TARQUINN WATSON Date: 10/02/93 1:57p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TW>What do you mean over here? I live in Sydney too! :) Yes it makes you
TW>chringe when you see how much the DRM's sell for in the states. When
TW>you have that working, you can them turn your attention towards a
TW>100 disks changer, or purhaps a 240 disks changer! I have details on
TW>the NSM 100 cd changer if your interested. I'm using Novell.
Yeah I realised that you too lived here AFTER I recognised your name. I
couldn't be bother retyping the message though *8-(
Would be VERY interested in some info on the BIG changers dude. BTW: That
PAUSE thing is Multitasking related. I threw the drm on a network sever 486/25
and it STILL did the 1-2 second disk change lockupss. Argggghhh!!!
Any please get back to me re those larger ones.
╔══════════════════╗
║Regards -= Dino =-║
╚══════════════════╝
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From: TONY SAUNDERS Number: 4558
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 10/02/93 7:43p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MW> Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
MW> the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
MW> transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
MW> I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
MW> inventory but they don't help a bit. This is so very frustrating!
Hi Mark,
Here are some some hints from a SQ4 solution up to the manhole bit.
On Xenon
Problem:
What do I do with pink rabbit?
Hint:
You need to snare the hare -- you'll need his battery later.
You'll find a rope one screen east of the starting screen. Pick
it up and walk between the two large red columns in the upper
right side of the screen. Choose the rope from the inventory
window, and click the ROPE icon on the ground to use it. When
the bunny walks into the noose, click the HAND on the rope to
catch him.
Problem:
What do I do with the skimmer?
Hint:
Search the glove box and pick up the Pocket Pal terminal!.
Problem:
What should I do with the tank and the unstable ordnance?
Hint:
Nothing,leave it alone.
Problem:
How do I avoid the cyborg and the Security Droid?
Hint:
Just stay out of his way, and he'll leave you alone. If he gets near
you, he'll alert the Security Droid. There's no escape from the Droid.
Problem:
Where else can I go?
Hint:
If you have been everywhere enter the Sewer Grate.
In the Sewers
Problem:
What do I need from the Sanitation office?
Hint:
Look under Desk Blotter and collect Empty Jar.
Problem:
What should I do in the sewer?
Hint:
If you took the jar from the Sanitation office, use it to scoop
up some of the green slime. Choose the jar from the inventory
window, and walk around the sewer until the slime oozes out of
one of the grates. Quickly click the JAR icon on the slime, then
get away fast!
Problem:
How do I get out of the sewer?
Hint:
There's a ladder halfway down the west side of the sewer. Click
the hand on it to climb up. When you're looking out at the
street from under the manhole cover, wait for the spaceship to
land and the Sequel Police to disperse before clicking the WALK
icon on the street to exit your hiding place.
Problem:
What about this spaceship?
Hint:
The spaceship is the Sequel Police shuttle to and from the dome.
If you're quick, you can sneak aboard and get a ride up there.
Wait in the manhole until the Sequel Police disperse, then walk
to the ship. Click the HAND icon on the open area just below the
leg of the ship to get inside the landing gear compartment.
MW> I'm really beginning to hate Sierra games because of this. Getting
MW> killed every 3 minutes does not make a game any more fun - it just
MW> makes it more of a hassle to play.
I certainly agree with you on that one.Maybe Sierra should look at
LucasArts games like Monkey Island II where it is almost impossible
to get killed.If Space Quest 4 had not been such a good game I
probably would not have continued to play it.
Hope this helps.
See ya.
Tony.
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4559
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 10/02/93 8:05p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well Henry, I love you tagline and Day of the Tentacle is the second version of
the Maniac Mansion game, it comes in both CD-ROM and regular disk version, but
the CD-ROM version has the original Maniac Mansion game as an arcade game which
you can play, so its like a game inside a game, well anyway LucasArts makes it
and all the people that have it say its really funny, and besides the box looks
funny too, well the price is about $40 and well I don't know if I wanna buy
that game, anyway I am real happy that I just got a GUS card and installed it
and actually right now, I just finished installing the card and the software
for it and tested it out too, man I am really gonna like this one, well TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM Number: 4560
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 2:15a
Subj: Another bbs joins the fra Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@SUBJECT:Another BBS joins the fray N Hi, just
a short note to let everyone know that PandA's Den BBS is now echoing this
conference. (508) 750-0250, call anytime!
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM Number: 4561
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 10/03/93 2:42a
Subj: Bbs listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS Phone
-> Number:
-> (904)455-2181 SYSOP: Guy Winfrey Runs At: 14400 Location: Pensacola,
-> FL
Well, since you posted this message To: SYSOP, and sent it out through
echomail, I'm quite sure every SYSOP in the world has read it. ;-) I'll add his
BBS to my list............... pat
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4562
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 10/03/93 2:16p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SUre man, you can hook up the CD-ROM to any 16 bit card and get real
good music, I just
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From: CEES HEIM Number: 4563
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 2:49p
Subj: SUN CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a DOS Driver for a SUN Sparcstation external CD-ROM,
it seems to be a SONY OEM product. Is there any body out there who has
experiece with these drives running in a DOS environment????
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4564
To: GLENN LOFTUS Date: 10/02/93 11:25p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: CD-32 module for the Amiga 1200.
The question is - since the CD-32 essentially IS an Amiga 1200 on the inside,
what is the CD-32 add-on going to consist of other than the CD-ROM drive
itself?
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From: SCOTT SANDERS Number: 4565
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 8:50p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[reply to: Steve Goyer(1:359/200) -> All()]
SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
Other equipment manufacturer. It means that they really
didn't write the software, but got the license to use the code
from another author.
-[ scott ]-
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4566
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/03/93 2:20a
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I logged on to Creative's BBS and while I was just touring around a thought
came to me, this is a Global Echo and here on this side of the pond we do take
the tech support for granted, so posted here are the lastest file listings from
Creative's BBS for SB and CD Rom support.
Creative Labs File Libraries Creative Labs, Inc.
Technical Support BBS
Windows 3.1 Drivers File Area
SBW31.EXE 38342 SB v1.5/2.0 Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-16-93)
SBP2W31.EXE 57155 SBPro 2 Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-18-93)
SBPW31M.EXE 71239 SBPro MCV Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-16-93)
MicroChannel Version - for IBM PS/2's
SBW31M.EXE 28228 SB MCV Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-16-93)
MicroChannel Version - for IBM PS/2's
SBUPDATE.EXE 417722 Updated Windows v3.1 Drivers and software (09-19-93)
for the SB Pro I (CT-1330), SB16, and
SB16 Advanced Signal Processing.
JUKEBOX.EXE 10544 Updated MMJBOX.EXE (Creative Jukebox) (09-16-93)
SoundBlaster File Area
TESTSBC.EXE 33888 Fixed test-sbc.exe for 486/50's (09-16-93)
SoundBlaster Pro File Area
TESTSBP.EXE 38823 Fixed TEST-SBP.EXE for 486-50's (09-16-93)
For use with the SBP Model CT-1330 Only!!
TSTSBP2.EXE 48167 Fixed TESTSBP2.EXE for 486-50's (09-16-93)
For use with the SBP Model CT-1600 Only!!
VEDIT-2.EXE 163958 Updated VEDIT2 - For SB Pro Only (09-16-93)
PROORG.EXE 32761 Fixed Pro-org.exe for 486/50's (09-16-93)
SBRST110.EXE 10282 SB Pro Mixer Reset Utility (09-16-93)
SBPSET.EXE 10732 Updated SBP-SET.EXE (09-16-93)
SBPW31.EXE 46740 SoundBlaster Pro Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-18-93)
For the SBPro Model CT-1330
SBP2W31.EXE 57155 SoundBlaster Pro II Windows v3.1 Drivers (09-18-93)
For the SBPro Model CT-1600
SoundBlaster 16 File Area
SBMPU401.EXE 12552 Fix for MPU-401 support on the SB16 (09-16-93)
for certain games and MIDI sequencing packages
SB16W31.EXE 57965 Windows v3.1 Drivers for the SoundBlaster 16 (09-18-93)
SoundBlaster MCV/Pro MCV File Area
@5103.ADF 1104 Updated ADF file for SB Pro MCV (04-12-93)
@5084.ADF 1279 .ADF file for SoundBlaster MCV (10-01-92)
CD-ROM File Area
SBPCD-XA.EXE 11984 CD-ROM Driver with PhotoCD Support (09-16-93)
For Creative Labs/Panasonic CD-ROM
Drives - Models: SCD-52x/53x
SBCD.EXE 51797 MS-DOS CD-ROM Driver - CR-563 (09-16-93)
Also includes updated QCD.EXE
(Win 3.1 Audio CD Player)
MSCD221.EXE 19712 Microsoft MS-DOS CD-ROM Extensions v2.21 (09-16-93)
Thank you for choosing Creative Labs for your Multimedia needs!
So there you have it, for some it may give some insight in what to look for to
solve a problem or a much needed update.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4567
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/03/93 2:38a
Subj: IDE / CD Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Interesting your comments on a IDE interface for CD, I suggest you look to PC
Magazine volume 12, number 16, page 95 (Inside Track), the paragraph... IDE is
King. Long Live ATA Dept. Also, GateWay will shortly introduce an IDE/CD Rom so
one should "never say never" now should one.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4568
To: JEFF WORERTZ Date: 10/03/93 9:21p
Subj: CD Player/Lost Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jeff!
Well haven't heard from you in a few days, hope you are getting my messages!
Cd player never showed up, will check with my bank in the morning to see if the
check cleared. Could you please let me know what is up? I hope it is just a mix
up in the mail but I am starting to worry.
Take care
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 4569
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 10/02/93 1:06p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC> just wait for DOS 6.2 and the CD caching SmartDrv....;)
KH>
KH> Actually to Cache a CD more and more seems pointless as it would make the
KH> cache all the more inefficient for the purpose it was designed. A cache is
KH> designed to store frequently used data and prevent the Hard Drive from
KH> accessing the drive as much. Normally in Dos and on a Hard Drive this can
KH> accomodated rather well and keep the hit/miss ratio quite nicely. If you
KH> started loading it up with megabytes of CD info when you go back to the HD
KH> must start again. Only way I can see it as being efficient (and maybe Mr.
KH> Gates will do this) is make separate caches like they do now (in Windows an
KH> in DOS) in different sizes. Then it would be a boon. A little off topic b
KH> I still think it fits with the discussion of CD-ROMS.
They did a good job of it in NT....We'll see how well SmartDrv does...They
should get some of those NT guys to tell how it's done!
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: ON-LINE BBS (209)736-0385 -- Altaville, CA (1:208/504)
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 4570
To: JOHN DAGES Date: 10/02/93 1:10p
Subj: Re: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD> HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The Tentacle, it's
JD> incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
JD> thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
JD> thanks!
I have the game and there is nowhere near 100,000 pages of speech...There are
4,000 lines...It says so the box...Figuring even 1 line per page, that's only
4,000 pages....There's easily 20 lines per page....So I'd say there's 200
pages of dialog...
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* Origin: ON-LINE BBS (209)736-0385 -- Altaville, CA (1:208/504)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4571
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/02/93 12:24p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, I got 7th guest to work now, I had to use qemm 7.0 to load everything up
there, and now I have 649k to play with. The problem now Is that I think It's
going a bit slow, cause qemm uses my video cards memeory.. 1 meg..
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4572
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/02/93 12:26p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yo Walter, yeah, I got my cd player in terminate to run. It works quit
smoothly, yes I did get that exe file with my cdrom too..
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* Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070)
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4573
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 12:29p
Subj: JUTLAND???? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, baught this game the other day, and I can't seem to get it to work, I
returned one copy, and am having the same problem with the new one I got. It
just freezes on the main screen. Or after it freezes and I run it again, I get
"CDR101: Not ready reading drive E: " What does this mean? My drive is
working good with other software... the other error I get is something about
"????????.exe not installed" what is the problem there? arg I'm getting mad..
someone please help?
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From: FERDINAND MATARAGNON Number: 4574
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 12:09p
Subj: Does SB have scsi? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi all! I would like to know if CL has released Sound Blasters with an scsi
interface. I've heard of people saying it was already out but I don't know if
it is rumor or fact. Also, I'm thinking of getting a Panasonic 562 or 563 cdrom
drive to plug in to a SBPro. Would that setup work with os/2? How about the new
CL Discovery 16 kit? The one that has the new omni cd (300ms, 300k/s) ... and
SBPro 16. Does that kit work with os/2? I think, generally, if this stuff runs
well in os/2, it would run in DOS and Windows.
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* Origin: The Corner Store (604)464-0231 -14.4K- (1:153/255)
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4575
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/03/93 9:13a
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
J
JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I $22.00
JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective II $48.00
JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective III $52.00
JL>
JL>Computer Works Jim...
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our complete list.
JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
JL>
Thanks Jim. Do these prices include P.H.?
I have a price of $15 + $5 from another dealer (Florida), but have not
seen or heard from him on this echo in quite a while...
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* Origin: Lester's Hideaway, Smiths Falls, ON (1:256/202@FIDONET.ORG)
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From: BOB JENKINS Number: 4576
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/03/93 9:13a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR>Hello All!
PR>
PR>Microsoft Small Business Consultant & Micresoft Stat Pack
PR>Microsoft Bookshelf Dos Version
PR>These two cd's aren't doing me any good but thought maybe some one may
PR>trade me for them, will sell them if you perfer.
PR>512-939-9822
Hi Pat. Could you give me a price on Microsoft Bookshelf ? Thanks.
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* Origin: Lester's Hideaway, Smiths Falls, ON (1:256/202@FIDONET.ORG)
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 4577
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 10/02/93 1:13p
Subj: Re: mitsumi # crmc Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoted Harold Bingham to All about Mitsumi # crmc on 09-27-93 16:38 <=-
HB> With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and
HB> get bad performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
Not unless you get the special Sound Blaster interface from Creative Labs.
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at Harold" ... Zzzzzap!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4578
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/03/93 2:38p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ernest Pressley to Donnie Raynor <=-
EP> Will the Mitsumi drive controller handle more than one drive on it or
EP> do i have to keep buying controllers each time I add a Cd-rom!!
EP> Ernest
Ernest to my knowledge you would need a controller for each drive unless
you use a SCSI drive, which allows you to daisy chain drives. But you may
check with someone else, I am not certain.
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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* Origin: Jail House Blues(804)737-3180 Ra 2.00/Pro+ / Gecho 1.01+
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4579
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/03/93 3:13p
Subj: CD-Rom For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Pat I still have that Mitsumi if your interested. Leave message or call
1-804-744-3480.
... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave!
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* Origin: Jail House Blues(804)737-3180 Ra 2.00/Pro+ / Gecho 1.01+
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 4580
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/03/93 11:48a
Subj: Re: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Tony Stott <09-30-93 17:15> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:
BF>> >BF> Also, the picture quality is often directly comparable to
BF>> magazine
BF>> >BF>pictures....
BF>> Used to be the case, but growing less so....
BINGO ! You are 100% correct--Most publishers are dealing in 35mm slides now!
Thanks for helping us put the 'Old' days behind us :)
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: EUSTACE DUFFUS Number: 4581
To: P P P P P Date: 10/02/93 1:14a
Subj: Re: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting P P P P P to Eustace Duffus <=-
PPPP> --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a
PPPP> ! Origin: ALTAIR (1:130/72.0)
Hi PPPP, thanks for the infomation.
--eustace_duffus@f106.n6256.z1.fidonet.org
... ..the way to the caribbean.. try Jamaica..no problem man..
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4582
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 5:53a
Subj: eric the unready? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know anything about the cdrom version of this game?
1: Is there speach in it?
2: Is it ALOT different than the disk version?
good price on it?
thanx
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From: EDDIE MAYO Number: 4583
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/03/93 7:31p
Subj: day of the Tentacle? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey, I was wondering if anyone has played the cd version of the day o
-> tentaclte? Would they recomend purchasing this game? Is it funny? H
-> one fill me in, looking to buy it next week if I hear it's good. What
-> order price for it right now?
->
I found it good. It is funny, hard, easy....I think it would be a
good purchase.
As for price on mail order....I have no idea what it is now.
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* Origin: On-Line Entertainment BBS (407-992-2379) (1:3609/8.0)
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From: JOHN TOWERY Number: 4584
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/03/93 11:28p
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
===========================================================================
BBS: Warp Drive BBS
Date: 10-02-93 (10:15) Number: 764
From: ERIC RICHARD Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: CD_ROM's Conf: (205) CDROM
ER>Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me all
ER>the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
ER> Eric Richard
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ER> * Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6)
Hey Ericthebest one that i have found is the megadoor cd's they are easy
to set up and can be run as a dorr real nice program. There number is
1-800-843-7990.
-John
* OLX 2.1 TD * Your brain: ───────────, you brain on UNIX: )**&%^$^%$#
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 4585
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 10/03/93 9:53p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Your right, I think (don't quote me on this - I haven't used or even seen many
IBMs with SCSI) the IBM has to have a HOST SCSI adaptor. The only time I have
personally used this type of networking was AMIGA to AMIGA. The article that I
read recently though used the example of IBM to AMIGA -> I know it works, but
there are 2 different types of IBM SCSI interfaces Master and Channel, I really
don't know much about them b/c they are so different from the Amiga, but maybe
someone else can spread some light on the subject.
Any takers?
Peter Lasne
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From: BILL DENNISON Number: 4586
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/03/93 5:08p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
Steve,
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer, used when companies
make a product for someone else to sell also. (ie Panasonic makes CD
ROM drives to sell, and also gives that model to Creative Labs (and
others) to sell under their own name, even though Panasonic is a
separate company from Creative Labs.) With OEM equipment, often times
you'd have to call the company you bought the whole package from. (so
you'd have to call Creative for tech support on that Panasonic drive)
Bill
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 4587
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/02/93 8:44p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Please add my name to send me your catalog
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx. 78041
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From: RALPH BANE Number: 4588
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 11:10p
Subj: mmm Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
OK, I have a question for you all. What kind of windows media player will
play .mmm files? I just got the Dinasaurs cd and when I run it, I get an
error saying that some kind of media player cannot be opened and the mplayer
under windows does not recognize .mmm files?????? So now the cd dosen't run
except to go in with the file manager and view some .avi files and hear some
.wav files
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* Origin: Denis' RemoteAccess BBS * Ayer, MA * (508)772-6373 (1:322/230)
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From: DAVE DOUMANI Number: 4589
To: DAVID SILVER Date: 10/03/93 11:03a
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, David Silver said:
DS> I am looking into getting a CD-ROM sometime in the near
DS> future. What will I need as far as system hardware to get
DS> the most out of a CD-ROM?
DS> I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the CD-Rom
DS> plug into an
DS> expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an empty
DS> space in front of my computer for one)
DS> Also, Any advice on what is good? I don't want to go
DS> overboard on price, however.
DS> Thanks,
DS> David
I am selling an internal MITSUMI wqith controller card for 150.... If
interrsted leave me a # to call you at.....
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* Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 4590
To: KERRY ARCHER Date: 10/03/93 2:10p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WEll Kerry I don't know what to say, actually now after upgrading my SB 2.0 to
GUS I got a lot of problems, the digitized sound get cut off and the music
doesn't sound the same anymore and infact the game hung up on me, I gotta real
good around with my GUS. You might wanna write to someone else who might use
the same drive as yours or something since I use a Mitsumi, thus I can't really
help you, sorry, TTYL.
Ashwin
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* Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4591
To: RONALD LEON Date: 09/29/93 9:33p
Subj: Oklahoma BBS Bust Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL>It's about time this SMUT got cleaned up! Now, who can give me the best
>price on Asian ladies and Busty babes??
How does $29 a piece sound. Give us a call if interested.
All of my adult discs are $29 in a closeout sale.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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* Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4592
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 10/02/93 6:21p
Subj: Giga Games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>Thanx for your call yesterday, I'm looking forward to your catalog.
>On the above disc, GIGA GAMES, is it commercial or shareware??
>And do you take Visa-MC???
Hi Stewart. Glad to talk to you again. GigaGames is a shareware CD-Rom
from Walnut Creek. I had it online my BBS for a while. Gameware
Collection and Night Owl Games are similar to it. The Night Owl Games
CD-Rom is brand new. I haven't seen it yet, but it is on the way. Yes,
I do take Visa & Mastercard. I'll ttyl.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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* Origin: The Byte House BBS * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4593
To: DEAN DROLET Date: 10/02/93 7:58a
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DD>We have run into a problem on booting the computer with a CD in the
DD>drive at boot up time...if the drive is empty the problem goes away...We
DD>had the same symptoms before like you described but fixed it by making
DD>sure that the drive is empty.
I've got the same problem here! Doesn't do it ALL the time, but enough
to get frustrated with it! Haven't had it do it with music CD's yet...
* OLX 2.1 TD * CD-ROM to other: What kind of car is that? It's a CADDY!
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* Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:152/103)
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From: JOHN COLEMAN Number: 4594
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 8:42p
Subj: testing 1 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Testing to see if we are cconnected yet!!!
The System BBS Redwood City Ca. 415/365-1246
Vbbs 6.10 Fido 143/222 VirtualNet 1415005 2 Gig on-line !!
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* Origin: The System BBS (1:143/222)
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 4595
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/04/93 8:15a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-02-93 Robert Frost wrote to Everyone...
RF> I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It
RF> says
RF> Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an
RF> imitation, or just a mistake?
RF> The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
Robert, The NIGHT OWL'S name changed to NIGHT OWL after #7. What you
have is an original NIGHT OWL('S). It is NO2 first revision. My NO2 is
green and black coloring yours should be the same. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Everyone complains of his memory, no one of his judgment."
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 4596
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 10/03/93 7:29a
Subj: DR. CD-ROM SERIES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RUSSEL
YOU STATE THAT THE DR. GAMES CD HAS "VIRTUALLY NO GAMES" !!!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS AND IF THERE ARE NO GAMES WHAT EXACTLY IS ON THE DR.
GAMES CD ???
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* Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1)
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From: ED JUNE Number: 4597
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 3:59p
Subj: MS `93 BookShelf & WIN/OS2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--> Note:
Copied (from: OS2CDROM) by Ed June using timEd.
I have an adaptec 1542C and a Toshiba XM3201B cd drive.
The above has worked with everything, except:
The '93 version of MS BookShelf
Has ANYONE gotten this to work in WIN/OS2?
How 'bout dos/windows?
Anyone have a dos driver for the above cd?
Ed June
__ __ / __
| ||__ / __| - [ The Operating System of choice! ] -
|__| __| / |__
/
Fidonet: SysOp, 1:133/308, Atlanta's OS/2 Users Group BBS/FAX, 404-471-1549
Internet: buggz@buggz.via.mind.org
UUCP: ...!emory!uumind!buggz!buggz
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* Origin: Atlanta's OS/2 User's Group BBS/FAX 404-471-1549 (1:133/308)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4598
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Title: PIER 3 Price: $39 |
* 628mb total * Separate <ASP> directory. * 100% files dated 1993
* All files virus-scanned * FILES.BBS Support * < 1% dupes to 1 & 2
* Most current files on the market. Over 98% dated AFTER 4/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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* SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4599
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 12:03a
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT CD-ROM! |
| Title: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK Price: $29 |
* Source code for DOS, Windows, OS/2, Mac, Unix, and GNU
* Working demos of the products most needed by programmers
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 4600
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/04/93 5:45p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Oct 04 03:10, Boris Osadciw of 1:124/5125 wrote:
BO> Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Phillips sells gasoline or Milk of Magnesia. Philips, is the company
that sells electronics.
Regards,
Kevin
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* Origin: The E-LINK bbs [214]-680-8119 (1:124/5146)
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From: JOHN LUNDY Number: 4601
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 10/04/93 4:59p
Subj: Seventh Guest problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DP>My Brother can't run the CDROM program "Seventh Guest"
DP>on his 486DX-33 system. He thought it was because his VGA card
I had the same type problem until I took the stealth option out of my
qemm command line. I don't know if he's running stealth but you might
check it out.
John
* QMPro 1.51 * Johnson & Johnson Tagline: ############### "ouch"
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 4602
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 7:52p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 10/04/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
BBS : 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
* = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
MONSTER MEDIA (9/93, BBS Ready)...........................$26.00
NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)...........................$32.00
NIGHT OWL GAMES (10/93, BBS Ready)........................$21.00
* NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS (8/93, BBS Ready)......................$25.00
* SHAREWARE EXPLORER (8/93, BBS Ready): 3 DOS CDs & 1 Win...$39.00
* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready).....................$23.00
* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93, BBS Ready).....................$23.00
■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4603
To: DEAN BUXTON Date: 10/04/93 6:42a
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Hello All!
> I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack
> CDR-1000's
> According to the specs on the drive the capacity is
> 552 Meg.
> Most of the newer CD's coming out these days are
> averaging
> about 600-650 Meg. Will these drives be able to read
> these
> larger disks or did I waste my money?
> I suppose I could return the drives but because I have
> not yet
> purchased and CD's yet I'd like to know before-hand.
> Thanks in advance for a reply.
> Dean
Dean,
Just a word of advice, stay away from radio shack when it comes to computers.
Their prices and quality can be easily beaten. Try a local computer store or
mail order when it comes to cd rom drives. Most of my electronics came from
Radio Shack (Portable CD players, equalizers, radar detectors, etc.). I bought
a computer there a few years ago and regret it severely. I was overcharged for
both hardware and software. The service is decent (if you pay big bucks for an
extended warranty), but otherwise, forget about any turnaround time.
Creative labs and Sony both make very nice CD rom drives. I have the Creative
Labs that came with the Discovery upgrade kit & Sound Blaster 16 ASP. I got
the whole bundle, including the software toolworks mulitmedia encyclopedia and
The Animals (San Diego Zoo) plus Lemmings on CD for $497. I bought this two
months ago. Recently, I have seen the same package at Sun TV and appliances
for over $100 cheaper.
Bottom line, check around before making your final investment. You will be
glad that you did.
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4604
To: DAVID SILVER Date: 10/04/93 6:45a
Subj: What do I Need ? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking into getting a CD-ROM sometime in the
> near future. What will I need as far as system
> hardware to get the most out of a CD-ROM?
> I now have a 486sx/25 with a Sound Blaster. Will the
> CD-Rom plug into an
> expansion slot? I plan to get an internal (I have an
> empty space in front of my computer for one)
> Also, Any advice on what is good? I don't want to go
> overboard on price, however.
> Thanks,
> David
David,
It depends. Do you have a SB 16 ASP? Some sound blasters are cd-ready, and
some are not. Check with your computer store. You may be able to plug your
new cd rom drive into your sb, or you may have to buy some type of controller.
Paul
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4605
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 10/04/93 6:49a
Subj: CD ROM SET UP FOR BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have gotten this CD disk for my BBS and I can't set
> it up. Well, i can, put it is a very tedius and long
> way to do it. Has anyone heard of PCSIG 12th edition?
> I could set it up for my BBS by copying all the file
> names to a directory, and type the description for
> each program. Or, is it BBS ready and all I have to
> do is say load to BBS??? PLEASE, some one help me!!
Ryan,
The first step is to tell us what type of bbs software you are running.
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4606
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/04/93 7:01a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey Boris,
What are you getting for Nite Owl 10? When is it coming in? And where can I
pick it up from you?
A local,
Paul
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4607
To: STEVE STEWART Date: 10/04/93 7:03a
Subj: Encylopedia CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Looking for a real good Encyclopedia CD with full
> motion video in it. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
Steve,
I have the software toolworks mulitmedia encyclopedia. It came bundled with my
cd. I like it alot.
Paul
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: (1:2215/410)
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 4608
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 9:07a
Subj: SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I mentioned earlier (although not in the CDROM echo) just briefly
what one would look for in a sound card. I didn't get any replies so
after my research, I dug up the following information. Maybe many
would benefit from this information. Then again, maybe nobody
cares... I found the following to be different compatibility between
sound cards.
Microsoft Windows Sound Systems compatible.
Sound-Blaster Pro II compatible.
AdLib compatible.
Disney Sound-Source compatible.
Covox Speech-Thing compatible.
I guess the first two or three is fairly important. I am not sure
what four and five have to offer, so you tell me.
I have found the Multimedia PRO 16 by AVS Group to include all of
the above modes, plus your standard CD-ROM ports. Well I guess there
isn't really any standard CD-ROM ports, is there?
--- PPoint 1.65
* Origin: A Professional (Windy City) Point System (1:115/769.2)
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4609
To: NANCY DAVIN Date: 10/01/93 12:45a
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia/C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Do you have any suggestions?
The ones that I like are : Microsoft Encarta, Comptons Multimedia, and
the most bang for the buck, Groliers Multimedia. Not only will you get
pictures, impressive sound (with sound card) but also full motion video
included. Any of your retail computer stores should be able to demo the
different ones for you to select from.
--- WM v3.01/92-0136
* Origin: SEC Custom Computers BBS - Louisville, (1:2320/330. (1:2320/330.0)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4610
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 10/04/93 7:39a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bob!
Sorry sold that one!
But have these for sale Languages of the World $15
Reference Libary $15
RBBS $12
Shareware Overload $13
World Atlas $15
Sharegold2 $13
Take all for 6 for $75 and keep what you want and sell the rest to a friend
512-939-9822
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4611
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 7:54a
Subj: CD's\For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Languages of the World $15
Reference Libary $15
RBBS $12
Shareware Overload $13
World Atlas $15
Sharegold2 $13
Take all for 6 for $75 and keep what you want and sell the rest to a friend
512-939-9822
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: CHARLES ALPERT Number: 4612
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 4:51p
Subj: Phoenix v4.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a new copy of Phoenix 4.0 for sale. Over 7,000 Files! Will take
any reasonable offer. For quicker response netmail 1:369/78.
Thanks,
Charles
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* Origin: The Looking Glass BBS * (305) 346-8524 (1:369/76)
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From: GLENN LOFTUS Number: 4613
To: MARTIN ALBERT Date: 09/30/93 9:09p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Double Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> "All!" bellowed Martin,
> "Have you heard about Mitsumi Double Spin?"
MA> I heard there was a new Double Spin Mitsumi... anyone have the
MA> specs?!
My new system from Gateway 2000 came with the Mitsumi
double-speed CDROM. It is a model CRMC-FX001D. The transfer
rate is 300K/second. I had the advertized access time written
down, but I can't find it now.
I had originally written on this topic that I was disappointed
in the system's performance. I have since reconfigured the
CDROM driver, and am now getting much better performance. The
system was shipped with the MTMCDAS driver. I switched to the
MTMCDAE (DMA) driver, and now The 7th Guest plays all animations
smoothly, with no jerky video at all. For the price, I could
not be happier with this drive.
--Glenn...
... Never try to outstubborn a cat.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: Take a "Byte" out of BBSing ... Byte Junction BBS (1:3625/463.0)
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From: GARY PITTMAN Number: 4614
To: ANDREW LARMOUR Date: 10/05/93 7:47a
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-01-93, Andrew Larmour said to Don Bosman!
AL>Hi Don,
AL> I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here
AL>in
AL>Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on two CD-
AL>ROM's but he wasnt sure of the price since they hadnt had
AL>much call for it..."
I checked into Encyclopedia Brittanica a couple of years ago and the price
was around $350 or $400 as I recall. I don't know if it has come down any.
I remember they wanted essentially the same for the CD version as they did
for the paper version.
___Gary
--- WinQwk 2.0b#0
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From: JAMIE PASSEY Number: 4615
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 2:52p
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably cheap (since i don't
have much $$).. how much does a good drive cost? How much does a CD with
tons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
thank you!
--- WM v3.01/91-0013
* Origin: Mark's Point! (206) 486-2415/338-9361 (1:343/26.0)
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From: DEAN BUXTON Number: 4616
To: PAUL PERHACS Date: 10/05/93 7:09a
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> > Hello All!
-> > I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack
->
-> Just a word of advice, stay away from radio shack when it comes to co
-> Their prices and quality can be easily beaten. Try a local computer
-> mail order when it comes to cd rom drives. Most of my electronics ca
-> Radio Shack (Portable CD players, equalizers, radar detectors, etc.).
-> Bottom line, check around before making your final investment. You w
-> glad that you did.
-> Paul
Thanks for the input Paul. I almost *never* shop at Radio Shack.
They have a reputation for selling inferior quality hardware IMHO.
However, for $149 I could not pass up the price for this CD Rom Drive.
It seems to be working fine so far, keeping my fingers crossed.
While I agree it is an older model (CDR-1000), I'm pleased with it
so far.
Dean
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* Origin: Jacob's Ladder (813)541-1896 16.8k DHST (1:3603/270)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4617
To: EERO MAKELA Date: 10/04/93 3:38p
Subj: Re: CDROM with RA 1.11 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Eero Makela to All <=-
EM> Is anyone using a CD ROM with Remote Access BBS. I can't seem to get
EM> the FILES.### files.bbs listing to work with my system. Also what is
EM> the BEST CD ROM to buy and what method of user interface to use (ie
EM> CD-ROM Door).
The sysop of this BBS (see tagline) runs RA. He's Dan Guillory and you
can reach him at the node address. He presently is running two CD-ROM
drives.
... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4618
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 5:32p
Subj: CD"s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Only have a few cd's left to sell
Shareware Goldd2 $15
Shareware Overload $17
Software Tolworks Reference Library $17
RBBS $14
Or make me a offer!
512-939-9822
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4619
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/04/93 5:29a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>Well Henry in ways it does help but well I will figure out what dress I need
AB>no problem with that, but once I enter the timpod, someone told me that the
AB>coordianates are split between some gum wrapper and hint book, both of which
AB>have, but how in heavnes name do I use it, TTYL.
Okay, what I did was write down the codes on paper. Then enter them once
in the pod....
BTW- these are the codes for SQ1.
TTYL,
Henry
* OLX 2.1 TD * I am G.Bush of BORG: Not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 4620
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 10/03/93 9:49p
Subj: Re: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Jurrie Hobers to Kevin Plummer <=-
KP> ==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP> Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
KP> Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
KP> Susan
KP> Cheapest Prices around !!!!
KP> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP> reached to 1:231/570
KP> 1-800-865-5354
KP> =================================================================
I'd like to see your listing and possibley get setup over here in Guam,
Call my BBS at 011-1-671-565-6707 or call voice at 011-1-671-565-6726 we
are about one day ahead of you. Or you can mail it to..
Patrick McCormick
75 Plumeria St.
New Apra Santa, Guam
96915-0000
Look forward to hearing from you soon..
Patrick..
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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* Origin: DogHouse,Santa Rita,GU(671-565-6707)14.4/24hrs (1:345/3000.0)
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From: ERNEST PRESSLEY Number: 4621
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 10/04/93 7:56p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
DR> Ernest to my knowledge you would need a controller for each drive unless
DR> you use a SCSI drive, which allows you to daisy chain drives. But you may
DR> check with someone else, I am not certain.
Will any Scsi controller work or do Mitsumi have a controller that allows
multiple drives of there's on it. Is there a # to contact them so that i can
ask them for Tech Help!!
Ernest
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From: TIM SMITH Number: 4622
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/29/93 12:35p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD ROM & Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> For running under OS/2, the Mitsumi is NOT the preferred way to go.
DR> The SCSI drives are DIRECTLY supported by OS/2, where the Mitsumi
DR> needs 3rd-party device drivers that don't necessarily work as
DR> advertised. The 3rd-party drivers are for those that were foolish
DR> enough to buy the Mitsumi before realizing what a mistake they made.
DR> Any serious OS/2 user is going to buy a SCSI drive.
HEY! I'm not Foolish, I'm just not rich enough to by a Scsi drive thats fast.
... Aliens have invaded Earth! How else do you explain DOS?
--- Blue Wave/SBBS v2.10 [NR]
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From: TIM SMITH Number: 4623
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:38p
Subj: Kodak CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, does anyone know of a Kodak CD you can bye with pictures on it already?
Kinda like a CD with GIF's but better rez.
... "Graphic Artist seeks Boss with vision impairment."
--- Blue Wave/SBBS v2.10 [NR]
* Origin: Bob's Bulldog Express..On The Cutting Edge! (1:110/380.0)
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4624
To: MIKE KELLEY Date: 10/02/93 10:18a
Subj: windows or dos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info on Kings
Quest VI.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4625
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/04/93 1:34p
Subj: NEW CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris,
I'm looking for CDROMs :
. Professional Shareware
. Multimidia
. OS/2
. BBS software (BBS util)
Send me a message with the titles and prices, O.K. ? (Or crash
me again). Thanks for the five CDs, they are really good, but "I'm
hungry" :-) ... So I want more and more ...
[]s Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil !
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From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 4626
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/05/93 4:08a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 27 21:16, Gordon Peterson of 1:124/5125 wrote:
GP> You're more likely to damage a CD taking it out of or putting it into
GP> caddies than you are by putting one into a caddyless drive. And most
GP> people don't buy many "expensive CDs", the most-bought CDs cost
GP> significantly less than $50... not a whole lot more than a good audio
GP> CD. And how many of those get damaged by normal handling?
When I buy a CD, I buy a caddy also. The disk is NEVER taken out of the
caddy after it is put in the first time. It is worth the extra $5, to me.
There is a big difference between audio and data disks. Both have error
correction data, but when an audio disk becomes damaged enough that the
error correction won't work, the cd player will insert an estimate as to
what the audio should be. When a data disk becomes damaged, a filler
block of data just won't do.
I repair these things for a living, and over the years I've seen quite
a few damaged disks caused by lack of care. Many people think that data
disks are just like audio disks, they'll take them out of the player and
set them down on the desktop. . .
Just my two cents worth.
Kevin
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From: JORGE GUTIERREZ Number: 4627
To: ADRIA SALAS Date: 10/04/93 8:28p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to have a catalog also.
My name and address is:
Jorge Gutierrez
11215 N.W. 6 Street
Miami, Fla. 33172-3558
Thanks you very much.
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* Origin: The Software Cuisine - Miami, FL, USA - v32bis/v42bis (1:135/57)
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From: JIM MOTLEY Number: 4628
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/04/93 2:25a
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB>Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have enough b
CB>memory. Do you need dos6 to get it to run? By the time I load the drivers
CB>I'm down there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going, I
CB>my first disk I own!
Corey if you are running Dos 5 just go in and copy your Autoexec.bat to
a bootup disk. Then go into your "COPIED" autoexec.bat and rem out any
drivers that you won't be using in the game and go..It is easier to just
rem out the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys on your hard drive if you are
familiar with doing that..Hope it helps..
* SLMR 2.1a * TAGLINE: Your next in line so your it.
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* Origin: Hello From Pontiac Mi*Fire & Ice*(313)373-8608 (1:2202/9)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4629
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:28p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've seen several messages lately indicating that CD-ROM catalogs are
available. I'm always interested in knowing who has what, and at what
price. My address: Gordon E. Peterson II, 49 rue Lacepede, 75005
Paris, FRANCE. Thanks much, in advance. :-)
* SLMR 2.1 *
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4630
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/27/93 9:16p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
RS> RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
RS>Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it in a
RS>caddy.
You're more likely to damage a CD taking it out of or putting it into
caddies than you are by putting one into a caddyless drive. And most
people don't buy many "expensive CDs", the most-bought CDs cost
significantly less than $50... not a whole lot more than a good audio
CD. And how many of those get damaged by normal handling?
RS> RP> Point #2 - Drives that do not use caddies do not eat CDs the same way
RS> RP> a cheap cassette player eats cassettes. They should not be considered
RS> RP> inferior for solely because they use a tray mechanism.
RS>No. But for the most part, only the less expensive drives are caddy-less.
I would certainly agree that caddyless drives represent a better value.
:-) But that certainly doesn't make them more likely to damage a disc,
in any case.
RS> RP> Point #3 - If you purchase a caddy drive for protection it is
RS> RP> reasonable that you must also purchase a caddy for each disk you own
RS> RP> because you are just as likely to damage the disks putting then in and
RS> RP> taking them out of caddies. Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an
RS> RP> average cost of 40 dollars each and then buy 10 caddies at a cost of
RS> RP> 7.50 each. You would have had to trash 2 disks or 20 percent of your
RS> RP> programs before buying the caddies will save you anything above the
RS> RP> cost of their purchase.
RS>Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs that can c
RS>a lot more than $40.
That depends on where you buy your caddies. And typical discs cost MUCH
less than $40. I think $23-34 is more typical, based on what I've seen
here on the echos. If you were going to buy CDs like the Oxford
Dictionary, and planned to check them out to patrons in a public
library, then you might have a point... but we're talking about normal
home use here.
RS> RP> Point #4 - If you do not take reasonable care of your equipment, if
RS> RP> you possess no hand/eye coordination, if you are prone to getting
RS> RP> drunk while using your computer equipment, if you consistently trash
RS> RP> music CDs just by looking at them, or if you allow your children to
RS> RP> play with your computer then purchasing a CDROM that uses caddies IS A
RS> RP> NECESSITY.
RS>Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive offers
There's no convenience in searching for the disc you want out of a stack
of thirty to fifty identical caddies. In the jewel boxes, you can often
find the disc you want quickly, just by the color of the spine of the
jewelbox.
RS>Point #6. Caddies make it as easy to switch CDs as it is to switch floppies
RS>without worrying about being extra careful.
RS>I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM drive
RS>unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM drive very often
RS>(and in that case, it may not make much sense to buy a CDROM drive).
I think (given the price of the Mitsumi) it is awfully hard to justify
buying a system nowadays WITHOUT a CD-ROM drive. And if you run a BBS,
you might have the same disc in the drive for months on end. No
convenience from caddies there.
Sorry, Roger, unless you've got a houseful of careless and destructive
kids, or plan to use your discs in a car CD player, I _really_ think
caddies are an enormous waste of money and materials.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4631
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/27/93 9:35p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can get mu
SR>better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges either for
SR>$29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per day at Video
SR>rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
I think there are a variety of reasons.
1. XXX-rated images are very popular for downloading from BBSes.
2. The image resolution is better in computer scans compared to video
tape (which is at best about 400-500 pixels wide and 525 lines high, in
the USA). Computer images go to 1024x768, which gives them much closer
to photographic detail.
3. There is more variety in the computer images, you can put thousands
of radically different images on a single disc, whereas a videotape
will only normally have a relatively small cast of characters and a
limited number of locales, etc. This makes for more "surprise" aspect
in the images as they come up, you never know what might come up next.
4. There is something nice about the computer (a dehumanizing thing in
some ways) being used for things which are the EPITOME of being human.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4632
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 09/28/93 12:03p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RA> GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
RA>1) Bad original design spec.
I guess you're entitled to that as your opinion. Personally, I think
that the caddy thing is just godawful, I was shocked and terribly
disappointed the first time I ran into that garbage at a computer show.
(In fact, I think the first time I saw them was at an AUDIO show where
they were showing car CD players).
RA>2) CD libraries much more extensive, and audio cd prices are MUCH cheaper th
RA>data CD's over the long haul.
I don't know how you figure, I'm presently buying about three times as
many computer CD discs as I am audio discs. The most recent audio discs
I've bought (prices are higher here in Paris, especially if you want the
good stuff) have been in the $20-30 price range, and I just passed a few
days ago on buying an audio disc for about $35 which I'm sure I would
have liked.
OTOH the bulk of the CD-ROMs that I have I've paid $20-35 for (each), or
about the same price... and given my current buying rate, I'll probably
have more computer CD-ROMs than audio CD discs within seven to ten
years.
RA>It's hard to justify protect my $5.96 Barry Manilow's greatest hits, but not
I probably wouldn't dedicate a caddy to some of my freebie CD-ROMs
either, such as a catalog disc I got from one Paris seller. Likewise
for my Windows Games disc, which I think I paid all of $5 for.
Actually, on reflection... I think that the other post I read here
pointing out that you could AFFORD to replace a couple of discs now
and then for the money people waste on caddies, was spot on.
RA>hard at all on my Delorme Mapping, or Groliers, Dino Adventure, 7th Guest..
RA>nauseum.. I have about 35 CDROMs here all in their own caddies. I also hav
Assuming you paid $5 each for the caddies (and they USED to cost
significantly more), you've got $175 invested in caddies. So far. That
money would replace almost six discs the price of NightOwl. I wonder
how many people here with caddyless drives have messed up that many
discs due to sloppy handling? Not many, I'd wager.
RA>caddyless on my bbs, and the dust problem is extensive on them, never a prob
RA>with the ones in the caddies.
If you have a dust problem, it's sooner or later going to cause you
grief on your other system components as well (it's especially hard, for
example, on floppy disk drives and the diskettes in them... but an
accumulation of dust also insulates motherboard components and raises
chip temperatures, which tends to accelerate failure rates). If you've
got a dust problem, work on fixing _that_ rather than trying to fix
single components where the symptom manifests itself.
Besides, the question of CD-ROMs getting "dusty" is mostly a non-issue
anyhow... first, they don't read the TOP of the disc anyhow, and the
bottom is unlikely to collect dust. You could easily read a disc
(bottom side) which had 1/8 inch layer of dust along the top, (at least
as long, I suppose, as it didn't come flying off when the disc spun).
:-)) Second, there are few things involved with the computer which are
as easy to clean dust off of than a CD-ROM... a soft paper towel and a
spritz of Windex or some other mild detergent solution work just fine.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4633
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/28/93 12:04p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> RS>> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect
RS> RS>> a CDROM that can cost much more.
RS> GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
RS>Because the average cost of an audio CD is much less than the average cost o
RS>CDROM.
FWIW, that's not really true here in Europe, where audio CDs can easily
cost $20-35 or more.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4634
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/28/93 12:10p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Simple... Record companies sell a CD every time someone scratches their
AS>favourite Barry Manilow disc. Record companies have a LOT of muscle with
Actually, I doubt very much that most people replace such discs. In any
case, there are really few audio CDs which (handled with a modicum of
care) get damaged like that. Old vinyl LPs used to get far more
seriously damaged by dust and handling than CDs ever could, and there
weren't a lot of those that got replaced either.
AS>media development, as CD's were jointly developed by Philips and Sony,
AS>Sony being the owner of CBS I beleive.
Sony bought into CBS long after the CD development was established on
the market.
AS>Secondly, how many Audio CD's are worth hundreds of bucks. Who would use
AS>a $1000 CDROM disk without the protection of a caddy?
The number of CD-ROMs out there which are worth $1000 is a vanishingly
small percentage of the total. The great majority of CD-ROMs sold are
in the below-$50 price range, which puts them at a price not all that
much higher than a good audio CD.
AS>Caddyless drives are fine for small time home users with an inexpensive
AS>collection of ROMs. For a business or bigtime user, with a large
AS>investment in expensive CDROMs caddies are essential.
Sorry, I just don't agree with you here. Among other things, a
"business or bigtime user" is much more likely to share these expensive
CD-ROMs across their LAN, rather than physically distributing them to
sloppy and careless users to begin with.
AS>The Creative kits are targetted at home/game users, look at the CDrom
AS>drives installed in Libraries, Corporations etc. They don't have the 7th
AS>Guest in them, they have expensive database disks, so they use caddy
AS>drives.
The intelligent way for a library to use CD-ROMs is for them to place
the requested disc in a LAN server behind the desk, and let the patron
access it via the LAN from their workstation.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4635
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/28/93 6:37p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AW>player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing an audio CD in the
AW>background has such little impact on Window's performance.
That's because once you tell the player to "play" an audio CD it does so
with NO further attention from the PC's processor whatsoever. You can
even (if you have an external drive) power off the PC entirely, the CD
will continue to play.
AW>The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW MPC
AW>encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just wondered how
AW>much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
The sound isn't being digitized, the distortion you're hearing is
because you're probably overdriving either the inputs or the amplifier
stages of the sound card. Try reducing the level of the output signal
going from the CD-ROM drive to the sound card, if you can.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 4636
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 10:43a
Subj: Sb compatible cd-rom:s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone give me a complete list of CD-ROM drives that are compatible
with Soundblaster cards. This means drives that can be controlled by SB:s
integrated controller thus eliminating the need of a separate controller
in asystem with SB. I need main specs. like speed, access time
caddy/no-caddy and a current US-price.
- Tapani Tuominen - Paris, France - CIS 100265,417 - Fido 2:320/7 -
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4637
To: RICK POTTS Date: 09/28/93 6:46a
Subj: ENCARTA... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rick Potts to Gene Ehrich <=-
GE> I can't imagine anybody will pay $105 for a used CD that you can
GE> buy new for just a few dollars more.
GE>===
RP> That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
And I must say a great!! program. I wonder why he's selling it.
$105.00 is a great price.
Neilr
... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 4638
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 10:44p
Subj: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: NONE
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I've got a really different problem that maybe somebody has experienced before.
What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to unzip any file on my
TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold boot! Anybody ever heard
of this? The files
can be unzipped if I copy them to the hard drive first without problems. Only
when I unzip from the CD is there a problem. On older disks I can use pkunzip
1.1 or whatever the older version is, buthis is pretty unusual.
I have almost cleared all config.sys commands and some of the Autoexec.bat
commands to see if this solves the problem. I need some help.
any suggestions? Anyone??
Thanks,
Neil Ripston
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4639
To: PAUL NALEY Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PN>MS> We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
PN>MS> - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
PN>MS> NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w
CD......$3
PN>MS> CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x
s/w!.$2
PN>MS> PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or
2.........$3
PN>Mike you already have my Pre-Order on file for Night Owl 10, but I just
PN>noticed that another dealer (Groupware) is offering their pre-order
PN>price of $20. Will you match it?
Tell you what - order two from Ismail. If he actually sells them at that
price, send me one and I'LL BUY IT FROM YOU!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4640
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
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RF>I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says
RF>Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a
mistak
RF>The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
This is Night Owl's version 2.1, which I *think* was one of the original
Carr's discs. Anyone?
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4641
To: ALL CD-ROM DEALERS Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: GREAT PRICES ON PIER'S! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
-------------------------
Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles. We now have the following CD
titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:
Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox
If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4642
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 12:43a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2 BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
Title: CD OS/2BOX Price: $29
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files * Fully BBS-ready * 350+mb total
* To begin shipping around 1st part of October * FREE s/h on preorders
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: RICHARD J COX Number: 4643
To: SCOTT GIBSON Date: 09/27/93 9:34p
Subj: do i know you?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Gibson to Neil Bergman <=-
SG> Please send me a copy of your CD catalogue. Thanks!
SG> Scott Gibson
SG> 306 Burnwick Rd.
SG> Richmond, VA 23227-1633
I realize there are probably a few thousand Scott Gibson's,
but do you happen to be the Scott Gibson I went to high school
with in Oshkosh???
A little off topic, I know, but I couldn't resist asking!
Rich
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From: BILL GOCHNOUR Number: 4644
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 12:12a
Subj: Adult Refer: NONE
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Disclaimer mode..... I am not sure if this is allowed or not but I think I
saw a msg stating as long as it's tasteful.....???? If this is not allowed I
appologize.
I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be bbs ready AND
have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of files that have been scanned
from magazines that like to sue people. If such a disc is out there can
someone let me know the name(s)? If your a dealer and you have such a dsic
can you let me know prices too? Thanx
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4645
To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/03/93 5:39p
Subj: Backbone status? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Currently your area, CDROM, is listed on the FIDONET.SS (Southern Sta
-> listing, but not the FIDONET.NA (backbone) listing. During the next
CDROM is in my copy of FIDONET.NA...
tim
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From: LEE BAILEY Number: 4646
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 12:55p
Subj: 2x CD Searches -- too slow! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone out there tried Lightning CD or one of the CD caches?
My drive : SB16 kit w/Matsushita (Panasonic) double speed drive
300kb data transfer rate, access time something like 350ms
My question : I am currently searching a CD for un-indexed data, which
means that depending on several factors, the program will
have to search the entire CD (680 megs?). Doing this sort
of search is extremely time consuming, and it would be even
if I were searching a hard drive of that size. In a worst
case scenario, the CD takes several hours (I'm guessing from
4 to 6 hours), and I just cannot afford to tie up my PC for
that long.
Is a CD cache the answer? I am also wondering how much
conventional memory one of these caching programs uses (from
what I understand, they replace SMARTDRV altogether, right)?
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4647
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/03/93 9:33p
Subj: A FEW CD TITLES . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5
MS> pcs. 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284
MS> (ORDERS ONLY!!) -!-
Hello!
Can you please fax me a dealerpricelist?
If you need more info, or anything else like a dealer license or
so, please fax it through, I will send it to you!
My fax number is:
+31-5910-12676
Thank you in advance!!
Jurrie Hobers
St. Diamond Soft
P/a Calthornerbrink 43
7812 HS Emmen
The Netherlands
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 4648
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/03/93 9:39p
Subj: Catalogues?? Refer: NONE
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NB> Neil Bergman
Hello Neil!
I have seen your name in accordance with many cd's around here for
a long time, and because I am still looking for compettitive
dealers all around the world, I hope that you will send me your
latest dealer information.
My FAX number is: +31-5910-12676
If you want to mail me;
St. Diamond Soft
P/a Calthornerbrink 43
7812 HS Emmen
The Netherlands
Europe
Thank you in advance! Hope to do business with you in the future!
When your prices are compettitive, I can give you regular orders!
GreetinX!
Jurrie Hobers
Managing Director
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From: RAY DYER Number: 4649
To: MICHAEL COOPER Date: 10/05/93 3:47p
Subj: Cd Rom Scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It could be. Thanks for the suggestion. As I am a Tech, will look into
it. Perhaps it might be simply a spec of bust inside the tracking coils.
This is perhaos one advantage of a caddy system as dust is reduced.
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 4650
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/03/93 11:02p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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AB>You know Russell I have seen a lot of messages about people having a lot
AB>of problems either installing that game or running that game and the
AB>funny thing is that it installed and works fine on my computer, taken my
AB>computer is not as fast or yours, I have a 386dx/40 mhz, with 8 meg ram,
AB>and a Mitsumi 350 ms access and 150 kb/sec transfer and a ordinary SB
AB>2.0 sound card and I get no problems whatsoever, but the only thing I
AB>can suggest is that maybe you are not giving enought buffer memory for
I have the same setup as you except mine is an SBpro. Seventh
Guest runs fine here *out of the box*. I use a boot disk to make
sure that there are no TSRs and that I have plenty of memory
available, but haven't changed any configurations.
And there was an earlier thread about how demanding the video
test was by all these posters with their fancy graphics cards.
My Diamond SpeedStar Plus, which is 3 years old and I bought it
used for $40, got 90%. From the way everyone's teeth had been
chattering here, I'd been expecting less than 10% compatability
if it worked at all.
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 4651
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/04/93 6:39p
Subj: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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CB>Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I
CB>don't have enough base memory. Do you need dos6 to get it
CB>to run? By the time I load the drivers, I'm down there in
CB>free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going,
CB>It's my first disk I own!
As it says in the manual: Make a boot disk, make sure that there
are no TSRs, use an XMS memory driver only, load DOS high.
It works fine here.
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From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 4652
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 9:19p
Subj: Seedy Sixpak $99 Refer: NONE
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Seedy Six Pack Only $99.00 including shipping! (US)
These are brand new and still in original wrap for a limited time only limited
to stock on hand, so act quickly!
Call to reserve your set of six adult discs and then send the money to the
following address. Will send COD!
C-3 Production Systems
PO Box 60144
San Angelo, Tx 76906
915-944-7187
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 4653
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/03/93 3:08p
Subj: Re: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
GRL>The prices sound pretty reasonable. Are these disks updated every year,
MS> and GRL>if so, what are the prices on upgrades?
MS> Yes they are, but I haven't heard what the upgrade price will be yet.
MS> If you wait a month or so however, you can usually buy the new release
MS> from me for less than the upgrade price!
MS> Later,
MS> .\\ike
Thanks for the info Mike
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 4654
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 9:21p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
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D i g i t a l E n t e r p r i s e s c u s t o m
C D R O M s e r v i c e
We can transfer your programs and data from Tape, Floppy or Hard Disk to
Industry Standard CDROM, which is accessible by any ISO9660 compliant CDROM
reader.
Price schedule:
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Quantity Price each
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1 $144.00, and $55 per each additional.
*5-9 $65.00
*10+ $50.00
* - Quantity 5 and over flat-rate pricing applies to multiple copies
of the SAME disk.
Shipping:
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4655
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: NEW CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W M O N S T E R M E D I A 93 I I
* Over 5,000 NEW Files * Over 665 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* 128 pg Manual * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Monster Media 93 II" is here and ready for delievery !!
All programs on this cd were written or updated between May 1st and August
31st 1993. It offers multi-line discriptions as well as supports for
several BBS formats to make installation a breeze!! PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4656
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 Refer: NONE
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A L L N E W N I G H T O W L 10
* Over 5,100 NEW Files * Over 647 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0 * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Night Owl 10 " is here and ready for delievery !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and Sept 1st
1993. In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4657
To: PAUL PERHACS Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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>> Hey Boris,
>> What are you getting for Nite Owl 10? When is it coming in?
>> And where can I pick it up from you?
>> A local,
Give us a call Paul at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help you further.
Our price on the New Night Owl 10 is $30.
Chat with you soon.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4658
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 10/06/93 2:46a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> On Oct 04 03:10, Boris Osadciw of 1:124/5125 wrote:
BO>> Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
>> Phillips sells gasoline or Milk of Magnesia. Philips, is the
>> company that sells electronics.
>> Regards,
Thanks Kevin, will fix it right quick !
Although, after typing replies all day long, I think I could use a pitcher
full of Phillips.....
Later...
Boris Osadciw
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4659
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 5:56p
Subj: CDROM games Refer: NONE
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Hey, just kinda wondering, how does a guy tell if a cdrom game is MADE for cd
rom or if it is just a disk based game made onto cdrom? Eg. Blue force.
pretty good game, but it doesn't use the power of the cd rom at all that I know
of, no speach, and the game isnt' very large.
So how bout a game like Eric The Unready? The cdrom version, I thaught that
this was a CDROM game, and the other day I saw it in floppy version, is this
just the same as the floppy version? Or is it enhanced?
What about Indianna Jones, another one I want to buy but not sure if its the
same deal. Does anyone know if ERic the Unready, and Indianna Jones has speach
in them?
What are some good CDROM games? With lot of talking and stuff. Please dont
say 7th guest. .yuk!
thanx
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON Number: 4660
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/27/93 9:03a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH> Bob Hall
BH> still trying to moderately moderate this echo... :-)
Sorry you have to take so much flak from people that don't understand
the tremendous responsibility you have. And since I am a transplanted
Okie, I can understand the apprehension you have that someday 'big
brother' will give you a visit...
Thanks for the job you do and the stuff you have to put up with.
... Precinct toilets stolen. Police have nothing to go on.
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From: ED JUNE Number: 4661
To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529 Date: 10/04/93 8:41p
Subj: Hobbes CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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--> Note:
Moved (from: MUFFIN) by Ed June using timEd.
Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529 wrote in a message to Allen Fogleson:
SF@9> there is a new os/2 cd out (or out soon, should be shipping
SF@9> oct 6) called os/2cd box. its put out by the guy who did
SF@9> winbox (or something like that, i didnt recognize the title,
SF@9> i'm afraid) and is said to contain ONLY os/2 2.x files. no
SF@9> old 1.x or unix stuff. of course, that means its only about
SF@9> 325 megs or so, but is supposed to be set up already for bbs
SF@9> installation. the bbses mentioned didnt include maximus
SF@9> (which i found *very strange) but maybe max uses some other
SF@9> bbs setup type files? anyway, if you can get a gander at
SF@9> the cd_sale echo, the vendor i'm getting this cd from is
SF@9> star vector. if you cant find it, let me know, i'll copy
SF@9> his ad to this echo.
SF@9> \/\/ild_________
SF@9> |hing
SF@9> TeamOS/2
So, will this have different files than the Hobbes CD?
Or dupes?
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4662
To: LEVIEN VAN ZON Date: 10/04/93 12:53p
Subj: Re: ATARI SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
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I don't have any information on Atari ST software on CD-ROM either.
If you find this information, please tell me!
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From: DOUG KANDEL Number: 4663
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/04/93 3:15p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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You also need to have enough conventional memory. Try running memmaker if you
have the guts (some bugs and file alteration problems exist) or if you want to
do it the right way buy Quaterdecks QEMM which will free as much as 634KB of
conventional memory for the best operation of all applications with all the
TSRs you can jam in there..
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From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 4664
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/04/93 7:55a
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> We're now taking pre-orders for what will be the best-ever OS/2 CD to
MS> hit the market - CD OS/2BOX. It has over 300 megabytes of EXCLUSIVELY
MS> OS/2 2.0/2.1 shareware, with a first-class G.U.I interface. Price will
Mike, I am counting on you NOT to forget me. :{) I definetly want this CD when
it is available. Thanks.
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From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 4665
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/05/93 10:10p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Sep 27 21:35, Gordon Peterson of 1:106/167 wrote:
GP> 1. XXX-rated images are very popular for
GP> downloading from BBSes.
I 'spect so.. but from the perspective of the area in which I live, one stays
at risk of arrest for distributing pornographic material...
In fact, since the decision has been made to continue to allow x-rated CD's to
be sold through this echo, I have removed the echo from public use on my BBS..
I'm unwilling to risk even the appearance of participating in the sale and
distribution of pornography.. and if someone reads the ad on my BBS and orders,
I have participated in the sale..
I'm no prude, but I'm not stupid either.. :-) To host advertising for these
CDs puts me at risk of arrest and having equipment confiscated...
In addition, I really don't believe the x-rated stuff is a positive influence
on people anyway... It's a shame, because this was a popular echo on my BBS,
but if vendors have to use it for sale of x-rated material, then I can't help
them...
L8r.... - Wayne -
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From: TINA ROCK Number: 4666
To: MIKE KELLEY Date: 10/05/93 10:00p
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the advice...I will be sure to call Zeos and ask them what they have
available.
Tina Rock
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From: MIKE KELLEY Number: 4667
To: TINA ROCK Date: 10/06/93 8:04p
Subj: Re: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
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TR>Hi Mike,
>Thanks for the advice...I will be sure to call Zeos and ask
>them what they have available.
>Tina Rock
No problem. Let me know if you need any more help.
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4668
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 10/05/93 4:51a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Multi Spin?? Refer: NONE
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BF> I have seen a few ads that mention a Mitsumi double spin CD-Rom drive. I
BF> have sold Mitsumi before and slowed down when the Panasonic drive came
BF> out but would still like the info if its been released. Has anyone heard
BF> this or does anyone have data or wholesale pricing on the unit?
If you are talking about that 350ms access Mitsumi, I have them for $189
quantity 1 and $169 Quantity 3. Shipping in the USA is $17 for each unit.
This is the newer 350ms not the 600ms drive. They were purchased in a large
bulk to get the price down to be competitive. SaveWare 708-657-1160, you can
freq the CDROMCAT.ZIP from 1:115/724 it list that drive and also other
discounted hardware and of course many CDROMs, or Netmail me with your
address and I will send you a printed catalog.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4669
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 10/05/93 8:37p
Subj: Sbpro, Does It Have A Li Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 10-01-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> RE> rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
AS> RE> approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's
AS> RE> around *TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
AS>
AS> This is the drive I have, the teXel DM3024, I paid about $AUS 480.
AS> This is only about $80 more than the Panasonic, which I bought in
AS> a SB16asp kit, but I beleive can be had mail order for around $400.
AS> My guess is that the 533 will probably sell for something like $600.
Well the only guy I've seen selling Texels (not that I've really been
looking) has been asking around $A800.00.... And, when questioned, one
of his staff said he had one and it "hung" all the time, requiring the
PC to be re-booted!
This may be an isolated dealer/user instance, but it makes me glad to
have the CR562B!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4670
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 10/05/93 8:41p
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-30-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Rowan Evans...
CD> RE> CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
CD> RE> CD> interface.
CD> RE> CD>
CD> RE> CD> Ideas?
CD> RE>
CD> RE> Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS
CD> RE> I've seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate....
CD> RE> Caddy though (bummer....)
CD>
CD> I LIKE caddies...<G>
Get the doctor to check that compulsion out the same time he fixes your
compulsion to SCSI CD-ROMs! <g>
CD> RE>Look around in this echo for ads from some of dealers and see what
CD> RE>deals they offer....
CD> RE>
CD> RE> Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these
CD> RE> suckers (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else...)....
CD>
CD> What, the Adaptecs?
No, the CDR-55s! They'll *APPEAR* to work when you connect them up with
the standard parity setting (you do get a funny line of "clubs" when the
Adaptec reports the CD-ROM type connected), but you'll *NEVER* be able to
transfer data off the CD-ROM... When the correct parity is set, the
h/a picks up the correct "NEC CDR-55" CD-ROM type on startup and the
combo works fine!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4671
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 10/05/93 8:45p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 10-01-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> RE> So, from that, unless I grab the SB 2.0 again for a "real" test,
AW> RE> I'd have to say the SB 16 ASP was a far superior device for MM....
AW>
AW> It would bloody well want to be for the price ;-)
True!
AW> RE> But then again, it could've been the way the samples were recorded...
AW>
AW> I'm glad you also found the STW audio samples 'hissy' on the SB16 ASP.
AW> I suppose hiss is what I meant by distortion.
Well, I didn't notice it over-much when I used a set of speakers, but with
Pioneer SE-A4 headphones on it was *VERY* noticeable....
AW> RE> How's the sound on the 1963 Civil Rights March video clip??
AW> RE> (Just a long one selected at random!).....
AW>
AW> Quite clear on the SB mono, though once again quite hissy.
Maybe they got their audio/video samples cheap?
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4672
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/05/93 8:49p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-30-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown
BF> > BF> M600 (2 KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their
BF> > BF> STAGE amp/speaker system....
BF>
BF> > This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country
BF> > to buy this type of gear....
BF>
BF> Nope - only a "few" thousand $....
BF>
BF> 8-)
Define "few"..... <g>
Seriously, after looking around, I'm *ALMOST* convinced to buy a small
boom-box with line-in so that I can connect a *REAL* set of speakers!
BF> > The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle
BF> > the 4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't
BF>
BF> Try a set of Realistic Minimus-7 speakers sometime - or any of the
BF> better"clones" of that speaker (like the Braun or ADS).
BF> The self-amplified Minimus speakers are fairly decent, too - I used
BF> to use a set of the 4" ones at Computer swapmeets....
What do you need to connect these speakers?? They wouldn't terminate in
a 1/8" stereo plug??
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4673
To: NEIL ATWOOD Date: 10/05/93 8:58p
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
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Hi Neil!
On 10-03-93 Neil Atwood wrote to Rowan Evans...
NA> > Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS
NA> > I've seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate....
NA> > Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these
NA> > suckers...
NA> > (one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
NA>
NA> Just curious, but can you clarify what you mean by reverse
NA> parity on the NEC drives?
It only seems to occur on the CDR-55. I managed to snag a CDR-74-1 and
a 1540B (floppy-less 1542B) for a few days to do the tests I had to do
and then tried to hook the CDR-55 in instead of the CDR-74-1.
When conected and the PC was powered on, the Adaptec reported that it had
found a CD-ROM drive, but the type msg was a "line of clubs". The PC
would continue to load the O/s, and MSCDEX would load Ok, but, from the
DOS prompt, whilst you could "see" the CDR-55 and do directories of a
CD-ROM in it, immediately you tried to copy files off the CD-ROM, the
setup would hang...
Consultation with a couple of techos from Anabelle Bits (Aust Distributors
for Adaptec) garnered the info to "swap" parity by removing the parity
jumper on the 1540B.... Then it ran just fine!
NA> I have a an NEC CDR74 running off an Adaptec 1542B and do
NA> have fairly regular hangs on th SCSI bus. I think I have
NA> parity set OK. I'm using the current APSI driver and CDROM
NA> driver.
Well, you could *TRY* reversing the setting on the parity jumper.... It
shouldn't damage your system! But be prepared for the system to go out
to lunch if the 74-1 doesn't like it! <g>
You could also try talking to Anabelle Bits, the guys there were *MOST*
helpful!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4674
To: IAN BISHOP Date: 10/05/93 9:27p
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ian!
On 10-01-93 Ian Bishop wrote to Rowan Evans...
IB> CD>> The reason I found out they were no longer in
IB> CD>> the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters
IB> CD>> in New Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was
IB> CD>> told on Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM
IB> CD>> drives for sale under the Panasonic brand name. They will only
IB> CD>> be manufacturing drives under OEM contract for *other* companies.
IB>
IB> What do you think about this lot Rowan? Seems as though the market
IB> may have been given a hell of a bump all of a sudden. I did notice
IB> that at the Queenland Computer Expo today that no Panasonic CD-ROM
IB> on the Panasonic stand. The only drives resembling the panasonic
IB> were in Full MM kits. I just wonder what will happen to the support
IB> for all those users with (theoretically) orphaned 562s?
I have been watching this thread with interest ever since the first msg
was posted regarding Panasonics' "withdrawl" from the retail market....
I think it may be an over-reaction to the popularity of the CR562B/CR563
and the fact that they couldn't handle the support requirements???
I'm lucky - Osborne are telling me that they have signed/will be signing
an OEM agreement to re-sell these drives, & they also appear to be willing
to on-sell CD-ROM "kits" to the public....
Anyway, as the saying goes, we will just have to "wait and see..."
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4675
To: POE LIM Date: 10/05/93 9:37p
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasoni Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 10-03-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> Hello Rowan,
PL>
PL> On Oct 01 20:02 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > HPFS also gives you the advantage over the FAT file system on the
PL> > DOS setup....
PL>
PL> Doesn't make a difference to the test, as I carefully
PL> stated that both were written to the same drive (HPFS), and
PL> that a first run was done to fill the cache so that there
PL> will be no difference due to caching.
No, it make *NO* difference to the test of both drives under OS/2, but
it *DOES* make it *IMPOSSIBLE* to compare your figures to those
obtained using a DOS FAT file system HDD!
What your tests indicate is that, under OS/2, a SCSI CD-ROM is just as
good as the AT-bus CD-ROM (the 10% speed difference was, as you said, in
the better spex on the Toshiba drive)... while you haven't changed or
challenged the view that under DOS the AT-bus drive still rules!
PL> > What does PC Labs Bench 7.0 say about the Disk Harmonic of the
PL> > Seagate SCSI drive??
PL>
PL> Don't know; will have to boot DOS to find out I suppose.
PL> But again, the SCSI HD is a constant. When doing
PL> experiments, it doesn't matter what a factor is as long as
PL> it's constantt for both.
Yes, for the comparison between to two drives ON THE ONE MACHINE.... I
cannot add your data to what I have done under DOS!
PL> > What SCSI controller?? What bus??
PL>
PL> Adaptec 1542b, ISA bus. This should minimise processor
PL> differences (which in this case doesn't apply anyway).
Well, I used exactly the same (OK, so it was a 1540B, but who's looking!)
h/a and bus in my tests earlier....
PL> > This is the type of result I expected out of the NEC 74-1 tests I
PL> > did...
PL>
PL> Then why did you say the AT style CD-ROM readers were faster than
PL> the SCSI ones?
Because *ACTUALS* showed the AT-bus performed the pants off the SCSI
CD-ROM drives!
PL> > You also have the situation where it is possible for the SCSI
PL> > CD-ROM to transfer DIRECTLY to the SCSI HDD... I'd really like
PL> > to know if that's the way things go under OS/2....
PL>
PL> That is possible, even desirable, but only one device can
PL> be active on the SCSI bus at the one time. In theory, the
PL> Panasonic can be read while writing is being done to HD,
PL> whereas the Toshiba must be read, then HD write takes
PL> place. If anything, it would mean that the AT ROM would
PL> have an advantage here. Don't know if that happens though.
What I described was what one of Adaptec's engineers said was the
primary asset of the SCSI system! (Provided it was implemented!)
PL> > I think I'm getting my AHA1540B back next week, with a 300Mb SCSI
PL> > HDD.... I'll hook the NEC 55 I have up too and give it a whirl!
PL>
PL> The 55 is a slow drive, compared to the 74-1 and 84-1.
Only slow on avg access! But I may just be able to snag a *NEW* 74-1
for a few days (the NT integration boys have just bought some!)....
PL>
PL> > Interesting results! Definitely gives food for thought if the user
PL> > will be doing CD-ROM work under OS/2.....
PL>
PL> Ok, I'll look forwards to your test results preferably with
PL> the same HW but under DOS. Remember to maintain constants
PL> (same machine, same HD, fill cache, fill a directory then
PL> delete all files, etc).
Of course!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4676
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/05/93 9:52p
Subj: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-30-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Bob Jackson...
BF> >uses some other standard interface like IDE
BF>
BF> I don't know of ANY IDE interface CD-ROM drives - and due
BF> to the limitations of that interface, I'd have to SEE such
BF> a drive to believe it exists (unless
BF> Mountain or Micro Solutions comes out with it)....
*SOME* idiot in one of the CD-ROM mfrs started calling the non-SCSI
proprietary interface IDE, because the "controller" *IS* on the drive,
just like an IDE HDD.... The interface also uses the same 40 way cable
as IDE HDDs do.....
So, yes, there are "IDE" CD-ROMs around but, (*BIG BUT*) they aren't
(and *NEVER* will be) compatible with a HDD iDE interface!
Plus every "IDE" CD-ROM mfr puts their own "wrinkles" into the drive
or h/a or connector, so *NONE* of the so-called "IDE" CD-ROM drives
will co-exist with another mfrs "IDE" CD-ROM drive! 8^(
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4677
To: STEVE STEWART Date: 10/05/93 10:17p
Subj: Encylopedia CD Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 10-02-93 Steve Stewart wrote to All...
SS> Looking for a real good Encyclopedia CD with full motion
SS> video in it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Software Toolworks/Groliers Multimedia Encyclopaedia would be
the best & the cheapest! It uses the runtime version of Microsoft
Video for Windows and has better clips (IMHO) than MS's Encarta.
Cheers!
o
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From: PATRICK FITZGERALD Number: 4678
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 6:26a
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
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Thanks for the replies to my query thet were most helpful
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4679
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 10/04/93 6:53p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
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SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
SB> NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
Do you know what the duplication between these 4 discs is?
Or, does anyone out there reading this know?
Thanks.
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4680
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 10/04/93 9:03p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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CW> First, what do you have your sound buffer set to in your
CW> config.sys.(Should be set to about 25 or higher). Might want to try
CW> that, I kept
CW> getting a sound buffer overflow and I changed it to 40 and the
CW> problemstopped.
How would I set my sound buffer higher? The relevant lines of my present
CONFIG.SYS are:
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,5264 =C:\SB16\DRV\ASP.SYS /P:220
DEVICE=C:\SB16\DRV\SBCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220 /T:1
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,55168 =C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.SYS /Y
Thanks.
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 4681
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 4:14p
Subj: Re: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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>I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the
>sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I talked to Graeme
>Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a few months ago, and he
>said they were shooting to release the sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any
>info would be most appreciated.
From what I've heard it's going to be called The 11th Hour and will only be
playable on a MPC2 spec machine. (Jeez My Computers out of date already -
Dont ya hate it when that happens?)
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 4682
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 4:18p
Subj: Rebel Assult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please! Someone must know when this is due out? Go on you can tell - We're all
friends here! :)
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: DON PUGH Number: 4683
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/04/93 7:26a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
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Hello Robert,
RF> I was wondering if anyone could help me, with
RF> this CD i've got. It says Night Owl's , instead
RF> of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a
RF> mistake? The CD was made in 1990 and it's number
RF> is PDSI-002-1.
RF>
RF> Robert Frost, Lodestone BBS, NSW, Australia .
RF> Sysop: Ian Mcwhirter.
It's an early night owl, number 2, and shows how NOwl has progressed in its
expertise. The new ones are so much tidier.
Best Regards Don
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From: POE LIM Number: 4684
To: PETER BOSTOCK Date: 10/06/93 12:09a
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
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Hello Peter,
On Oct 03 10:36 in a msg to All, Peter Bostock of 3:640/821 wrote:
> would be for speed or data transfer (I run OS/2 2.1 and have heard
That'll decide matters; if you don't want to have to do funny workarounds to
install OS/2 from CD-ROM (and the CD install takes 25% of the time the floppy
install would take, as well as extra Ultimotion clips), go SCSI. There are
drivers available for the SB AT bus, which works well, but to get that first CD
install is not easy.
> How do you connect the drive, sound card together? Does the CD-ROM
> have both sound jacks as well as a data bus connection (AT or SCSI)
Internal drivers have a cable (or facility for a cable) that you can connect to
the sound card, SCSI or AT makes no difference.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: PAUL COLLIER Number: 4685
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/05/93 2:34a
Subj: Re: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Eric Richard to All <=-
ER> Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave
ER> me all the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
ER> Eric Richard
Night Owl CD-ROMS are good....so are SDN plus and PC-SIG. When looking for
a cdrom for your bbs, make sure it has the files.bbs or similar. Hope this
helps 8-)
BFN......Paul
... Took an hour to bury the cat....Wouldn't stop moving!
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4686
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 10/02/93 9:48p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
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SG> -=> Quoting Paul Collier to Pat Rickerson <=-
SG>
SG> PC> I wasn't saying it's a bad place to live (no smiley so I take it
SG> PC> you're serious) I'm just saying that $US450 is a little rich for a cd
SG> PC> that you can get here for $A65. Have you seen "The Adult Reference
SG> PC> Library" ? Not a bad disc, just in case you're hunting around for some
SG> PC> good stuff 8-)
SG>
SG> What is $A65 in American money??? :)
Currently the australian dollar buys about 67cents US. Which works out
approx $43 american.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4687
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 10/02/93 10:04p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
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RE> TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
RE> TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
RE> TM>
RE> TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
RE> TM>
RE> TM> Panasonic 562
RE> TM> Internal
RE> TM> Double speed
RE> TM> Kodak Multi Session
RE> TM> Transfer rate=300kb/s
RE> TM> Access time=320 ms
RE> TM> 680-690 capacity
RE> TM>
RE> TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
RE> TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
RE> TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
I gave Osborne a call the other day and they sell the panasonic cr562
with controller for $385 inc tax.
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4688
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/02/93 10:44p
Subj: SB WITH NEC DOUBLE SPIN Refer: NONE
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BF>
BF> Likely a limitation of the test program used, in combination with
BF> a somewhat larger buffer on the drive - SAME sort of results that
BF> CoreTest will give on a drive or controller with a large buffer. The
BF> 563 appears to be a nice drive, but the SUSTAINED DTR is the same as
BF> the NEC 74 - if you transfer SMALL chunks of data many times (256K
BF> or less) the Panasonic will APPEAR to be a lot faster, as you're
BF> actually reading the BUFFER rather than the data on disc after the
BF> first read....
I believe this is called the burst transfer rate....
-Robert
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From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 4689
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/02/93 10:47p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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RE> Hi Again Chris!
RE>
RE> On 09-26-93 Chris Zito wrote to Ashwin Bihari...
RE>
RE> CZ> Whoa, wait up! Why are you only looking at Creative Labs products?
RE> CZ> The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 is an excellent SCSI card at an excellent
RE> CZ> price. ASP is just Advanced Signal Processing (a data compression
RE> CZ> engine) which has little or no support as of today. What's even
RE> CZ> better is the Gravis Ultrasound.
RE>
RE> This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've bought/are
RE> buying SB 16 cards....
RE>
RE> Are you a one man crusade against Creative Labs?? <g>
I hate Creative Labs myself, for owning a sbpro for over a year and
getting a PAS-16 the difference in sound is phoenominal.
RE> BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host adapter...
RE> Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd call an "Excellent"
RE> SCSI card....
Well, its 680Kb a sec... Its well suited to its intended purpose.
RE> CZ> The "GUS" has:
RE> CZ>
RE> CZ> 1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards
RE>
RE> Optional on an SB 16 - get a Wave Blaster....
Nothing for the PAS-16, I guess the XL is the only option :(
RE> CZ> 2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
RE>
RE> SB 16 ASP has 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo record *AND* playback.....
The PAS-16 has far superior recording and mixing capabilities than the
SB16.
RE> CZ> 3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
RE>
RE> One's never appeared (the SCSI add-on) and the other's already on the SB!
RE>
RE> CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
I believe this is called "Enhanced" on the PAS-16, and it sounds
great!
RE> ??
RE>
RE> CZ> 5) General MIDI compatibility
RE>
RE> Same.....
Hasn't just about every sound card available got this...
RE>
RE> CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RE>
RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
The PAS-16 has Yamaha OPL-3, but only hardware SB (mono) em. Pity it
has this, I feel a lot of games writers dont bother specifically
supporting the PAS-16 and just use the SB emulation, when the PAS-16
is a million times better.
RE> CZ> 7) Native GUS support
RE>
RE> Who wants it??
Agree...
RE> CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RE>
RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
Heh, who bought a SB16 ?
RE>
RE> Have a nice day!
You too.
-Robert
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From: BEN SHIELDS Number: 4690
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 12:56p
Subj: Multi session? Refer: NONE
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Hi ALL,
this will probably sound like a dumb question and has also probably
been answered before but could someone tell me what multisession means and if
it is worth having it on a CD-rom drive as I am considering buying a CD-rom and
want a cheap one (Huh).
The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems and its description
goes like this :
CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD, Multisession
350 ms access
$399.95
Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I wan't teh CD-Rom only
for the GREAT file capacity ! and I only have a Thunder Board sound card (NOt
looking to upgrade either, Well atleast until GUS drops in price anyway!)
I know I am asking alot but I know Little on CD-Rom technolgy and would
be evergratefull!
Thanking you In advance ! BYeager.
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4691
To: ALL - AUSTRALIAN READERS Date: 10/06/93 3:39a
Subj: Night Owl 10 In Aus!! Refer: NONE
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Be one of the First to have the latest in the Night Owls series.
And at an excellent Price!
The Australian CD-ROM Club is now taking orders for Night Owl 10, which
will arrive in country next week. Club Members price is $59.40. Non
members please call FREE (008) 811190 to Join to take advantage of this
and title and the other excellent services of the Australain CD-ROM Club.
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008) 811190, Fax (06) 2914591
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4692
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 7:30a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD's IN AUSTRALIA Refer: NONE
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Hi,
is there anyone in Australia preferably victoria, preferably close
to Lilydale who is looking to sell a fairly recent shareware cd?
If so can they please netmail me on one of the below addresses.
Paul Nixon.
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From: PAUL NIXON Number: 4693
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 7:31a
Subj: 2 sHAREWARE CD's IN AUSTRALIA Refer: NONE
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Hi,
is there anyone in Australia preferably victoria, preferably close
to Lilydale who is looking to sell a fairly recent shareware cd?
If so can they please netmail me on one of the below addresses.
Paul Nixon.
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4694
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/04/93 9:26p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Chris Zito <=-
CZ> engine) which has little or no support as of today. What's even
CZ> better is the Gravis Ultrasound.
RE>
RE> This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've
RE> bought/are buying SB 16 cards....
I wrote one message to express my dislike towards those haughty users who
enjoy bragging about their wonderful SB16's. People who don't act that way
should not be offended at all. <G>
RE> Are you a one man crusade against Creative Labs?? <g>
Creative Labs is not too creative, in putting together the most overpriced
pieces of cr*p. Tacking old FM technology (OPL3) onto the latest digital
audio sampling was real smart, doncha think?
>>>>COMMENT: Creative Labs is pushing out their SB16 pretty hard aren't they?
Especially when the OPL4 wavetable chips are about to be released!
RE> BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host adapter...
RE> Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd call an "Excellent"
RE> SCSI card....
True, that is why I prefer to buy my SCSI cards separately.
CZ> The "GUS" has:
CZ>
CZ> 1) 32 digital stereo wavetable voices (the kind the $500 Roland cards
RE>
RE> Optional on an SB 16 - get a Wave Blaster.... <--( Has NO SUPPORT )
Add $169 for a Wave Blaster... or buy a GUS for $199... or even better yet,
wait for the new OPL4 cards to come out next year. Wait a minute, have you
actually heard "wavetable" audio? If you have, you would think it should be
mandatory, not optional. And oh, an SB16ASP + Waveblaster costs almost as
much as a Turtle Beach Multisound <-Best MIDI Card to date.
CZ> 2) 16 bit 44.1 khz stereo playback. 8 bit 44.1 khz stereo record.
RE>
RE> SB 16 ASP has 16 bit 44.1 kHz stereo record *AND* playback.....
Recording at 16 bit stereo 44.1 kHz takes up a hell of a lotta room, doncha
think? 16 bit playback is good enough for me.
CZ> 3) SCSI optional add-on card or 16 bit record add-on card
RE>
RE> One's never appeared (the SCSI add-on) and the other's already on the
RE> SB!
A) Most people will never use 16 bit 44.1 khz record.
B) Why not just buy a SCSI card separately?
C) Why, last time I heard, SB16 doesn't even support SCSI!
CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
RE>
RE> ??
Focal Point 3-D sound is available on the GUS. 3-D sound is not possible on
an SB16 alone, and not probable either.
CZ> 5) General MIDI compatibility
RE>
RE> Same.....
Nope. Hmmm... Have you heard MIDI on an SB16? Hahahahaha!!! What a joke!
CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RE>
RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
SB MONO emulation sounds better on the GUS... in <STEREO>!
CZ> 7) Native GUS support
RE>
RE> Who wants it??
Those DOOM players and those Jetfighter players who want 3-D sound. The GUS
has attracted a majority of amateur MIDI musicians, too!
CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RE>
RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
Well, a sucker like me's got a better sound card at a better price!
RE> Have a nice day!
You too! SUCKER!
C-ya
... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4695
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/04/93 9:34p
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b + Sb Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Chris Zito <=-
RE> Ok, but I think the samples in STW Encyclopaedia under reference are
RE> still only MONO samples (I will take correction on this! <g>)....
I think they are, too!
RE> uncertain memory.... As to speakers, true... I'm still looking for a
RE> decent set!
Labtec makes some pretty good speakers.
RE> I bought the SB 16 ASP to control the Panasonic CR562B I had bought
RE> earlier... As far as I was concerned, I wanted something similar to
RE> the PAS 16 that controlled a SONY CDU-31A... That ruled out the
RE> cheaper SB Pro 2, and left the 16 & 16 ASP... As the ASP version was
RE> only a few dollars more, I bought it......
I understand.
RE> The other factor was the number of slots available to me.... I had to
RE> get CD-ROM control and sound in ONE slot... Thus the SB 16 ASP.....
Hmmm... I see your point.
RE> But it records *NICELY* off an audio CD.....
I rather just play an audio CD, than waste hard drive space.
CZ> ... Ultrasound, $129, 16 bit 44khz playback, 32 stereo wavetable
CZ> voices
RE> Ah Ha! We now see where you're coming from!
Ahh... I see you've dealt with our kind before! You should here the SB PRO
users whine now.
Note: I am not demeaning SB16 users. I'm just promoting a cheaper and what I
think is a better alternative, the Gravis Ultrasound.
... Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so...
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 4696
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/04/93 9:36p
Subj: Re: 16-BIT SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Scott Davis to Kevin Donald <=-
SD> I had a Gravis but traded it on a PAS-16.. The Gravis was SLOW in SB
SD> mode.. it ate up processor cycles so bad, on a 386sx/25 w/6 megs of
SD> ram, I could NOT pla Wing Commander unless I turned off SB support.. a
SD> problem I've never had with any other card..
Hmmm... not too many people still have a "classic" 386sx-25 anymore,
especially with 486's prices dropping and all.
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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From: SOL-LOTARR Number: 4697
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 1:16p
Subj: CD-Rom Refer: NONE
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Hi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which CD-Rom is
compatable with the card...I appreicate any help on the subject. BTW I am
looking for something under $350 but am willing to pay more. Bye
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From: DOUG ROWAN Number: 4698
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 7:37p
Subj: HELP WITH CHINON Refer: NONE
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I have a Chinon CD Rom Model # CDS-431
I do not have a controller nor do I know what type of controller
it takes, if anyone knows about this drive or has one I would
appreciate any info, Thanks in advance!
Doug
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 4699
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/04/93 8:07p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
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Chris Snyder wrote
----------------------------------------
>>Does this mean you're selling it or what? If you're selling it I'm
>>interested.
If he is not, I am selling mine. What type of offer do you have in
mind. I am open to trades also.... currently looking for CA-Realizer
(basic programming) package for windows.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 4700
To: CARL SCHULTZ Date: 10/05/93 9:47p
Subj: Ackqment Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks... I did find the way to pass the boling water... And now am
about to finishh this Kings Q 6...
Thanks again... Where are some other places you seen me? I don't get
around much.. unless this alias is no good..
Thanks - Candid Kid out..
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From: MARK ABBACCHI Number: 4701
To: DAVE CLARK Date: 10/05/93 8:23a
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Tech Arsenal 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Dave!
In a message to All Users <10/03/93> Dave Clark wrote:
DC> The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
DC> solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
DC>
DC> ]]] TITLE: Tech Arsenal
DC> ]]] SIZE: 629 Megs
DC> ]]] FILES: 7441
DC> ]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer
DC> ]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready
DC> ]]] DATED: 09-03-93
DC>
DC> No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID
DC> publish this disc! <smile!> However, lest you think that I'm going
DC> to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer
DC> a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my
DC> stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!> I'm going
I always try to give folks who review disks in the echo mail pats on the
back...however, when one "reviews" a product of someone elses labor,
it is customary in any medium; press, echo mail, television, radio etc, that
the reviewer point out the bad points AND the good points of a product.
Unfortunately, you seem to want to only place the BAD things in your
reviews... EXCEPT, well, this title of your own looks kinda rosy on the
review side.
I saw your review of The Hacker Chronicles, The Shareware Explorer and
many others. I would think that your point in reviewing a product would
be to give both feedback to the producer so they may improve on their
weak points and feel good about their strong points and strive to make
their product the best on the market. HOWEVER, you use statements like
... good thing my system isn't voice activated... when referring to your
wife attempting to use the install on the Shareware Explorer. In
the Hacker Chronicles case, the disk sells VERY well to those who are
curious about this "underground cult" of computer "enthusiasts". OK... so
what they are doing is illegal, but so was what Charles Manson did...
DID YOU READ HELTER SKELTER???? or if not, does that make any one who
did "evil" as you put it...
DC> to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going
DC> to be just as frank as I would for anyone else. I don't play favorites
DC> here.
Yeah... ok... anyone who reads your previous two reviews on the Explorer
or the Chronicles and then reads the review of your own disk is gonna
say.... gosh, he's soooooo impartial, come on Dave.
DC> Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc
DC> that I would have to trash? <SEG!>
Or, in other words... Why in the h*ll would I trash a disc that I have
to make?
DC> else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed
DC> my disc accordingly.
Meaning... by looking at the text below, you know how to make the
utopian disk? You have an explanation for any item that MIGHT bother
someone, such as why weren't the older files removed... They're
AGELESS???? hmmmmmm if you say so. BUT, at least you have a chance to
answer your own criticisms, before the world sees your review, so you
don't leave it to luck for someone to think their is a negative issue
about your disk.
DC>
DC> So, with that out of the way, here goes.
DC>
DC> Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming
DC> utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and
DC> applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing
DC> and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design,
DC> Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on
DC> this disc.
DC>
DC> File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the
DC> fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs
DC> have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991. However, please bear
DC> in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later
DC> version was found.
DC>
DC> Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum. Why not
DC> entirely gone, you might ask? Simply put, I found some duplicate
DC> filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each
DC> other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have
DC> application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that
DC> would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each
DC> section, rather than making the people interested only in one section
DC> have to go "hunting" for it in others. These files are on there
DC> quite intentionally to make it easier to use. However, the percentage
DC> of such files is VERY small.
If you had found this to be the case on ANY other disk would it have
been explained the same way? If this would be the case on a Night Owl,
or Pier product.... oh my gosh.. there would be a SHARK FEEDING FRENZY
here. But on your disk... well, it was intentional. hmmmmm
DC>
DC> BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!). File listings are provided
DC> in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file
DC> Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your
DC> own very easily, if you so desire. All but the DBF files are available
DC> in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file
DC> subdirectory. The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself)
DC> ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those
DC> that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the
DC> BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps,
DC> are not left out in the cold.
DC>
DC> The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in
DC> subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21. The File listings are in
DC> /FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the
DC> subdirectory /SYSOPS. Simple enough, eh? <Grin!>
DC>
DC> Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this...
DC> in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual
DC> program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface,
DC> as written by Mike Robinson. Mike's door program, run in local mode,
DC> provides a very quick search engine and a very easy way to transfer
DC> the files to your hard drive for use. It is easily the fastest
DC> CD-ROM based search engine that I have seen, and I hope that the
DC> exposure that the Shareware version of this program generates will
DC> help Mike in getting more BBS registrations for his excellent product.
Are we reviewing here, or advertising? If we're advertising, there is a
line limit and you might want to contact the moderator about it...
if reviewing... is this impartial to a product you manufactured?
To sum up, I am sure you have an EXCELLENT product my friend... I am
sure that you are very proud of your product... just as many of the
others in this echo are of their own. You of all people should know how
long it takes to put a disk together... your criticisms should be
balanced... you should let people know the GOOD AND BAD points of a
product. If you can't find ANYTHING EITHER WAY... GOOD OR BAD, then why
review it... but I for one would rather see impartial, constructive
Continued to next message....
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 4702
To: BRUCE WILSON Date: 10/05/93 11:41a
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BW> Just to follow up
BW> config.sys:
BW>
BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
BW> DOS=HIGH,UMB
BW> Lastdrive=g
BW> files=20
BW> buffers=20
BW> stacks=0,0
BW>
BW>
BW> autoexec.bat:
BW> LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
BW> LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
BW> PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
BW> PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
BW> mem
BW>
BW> This works for me leaves 577k available base memory
Ever thought about trying QEMM? It would easily boost your available
memory to over 600K... easily.
... The Homeboy Shopping Network - Where Everything is For Sale!!!
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 4703
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 10/06/93 7:29a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RV> this is the american driver, right ? Is it working fine to you ?
RV> I have heard that german driver is better ... and I'd like more opinions
RV> on american driver ...
RV> []s Rodolfo Vaz
yes, the new driver seems to work. IT has audio also.
I think the price is $20.00 + shipping.
There is another driver from Micro Tech is out, which sells
for $49.00, and seems to work.
As to which is better, I cant say for sure, I have tried the German
beta version, not the final commercial version. Thanks.
Joe T.
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4704
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/05/93 7:34p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, if you take up the room on your video card the game will run pretty
slow. I know a guy down at a local shop here who says he runs The 7th Guest on
a 256K video card. He says it works, but does run slow. How far have you
gotten on the game? How many rooms have you solved? Let me know! Thanks--
Walter Chisenski
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 4705
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/05/93 7:37p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
That's great! How do you like Terminate vs. Telix or Qmodem?? I think it
has all the fetures PLUS! I don't think I would go back to Telix UNLESS I run
in to some major bugs or something like that. Have you registered you copy
yet? If not do you get the very noisy msg. that says "PLEASE REGISTER
TERMINATE"?? I hate that msg! Let me know---and I'm glad you got it to run.
Walter Chisenski
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4706
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/04/93 8:36a
Subj: Re: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
BJ> ^^^
BJ>Original Equipment Manufacturer. Means who actually MADE the thing, not
BJ>necessarily who markets it (perhaps under a different name).
Oh, ok. Thanks. I've just been seeing so much of it lately that I figured it
might be a good idea if I knew what it was :-)
c'ya
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4707
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 8:37a
Subj: Panasonic 562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for prices from Canadian dealers for a Panasonic drive that will
work with my SB16 (perhaps the 320ms, 300kb drive).
Thanks.
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From: STEVE GOYER Number: 4708
To: JOHN COLEMAN Date: 10/05/93 8:38a
Subj: testing 1 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>Testing to see if we are cconnected yet!!!
No, you are not connected.
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From: THOMAS NIETFELD Number: 4709
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 11:51a
Subj: OED wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a used copy of the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM. It
can be the first edition since I probably cant afford the 2nd edition.
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From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 4710
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/06/93 7:46p
Subj: Re: CDROM games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> What are some good CDROM games? With lot of talking and stuff. Pleas
CB> say 7th guest. .yuk!
CB> thanx
Day of the Tentacle, LOOM, and Secret of Monkey Island are pretty good
ones. SMI does not talk but is a good game despite that.
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From: JOHNNY SWINDLE Number: 4711
To: WEE YUNG Date: 10/06/93 7:13p
Subj: Cdrom Titles Forsale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr Worf, Hail WEE YUNG. We must discuss "CDROM titles for sale."
Could you give me a little additional information of the following Cd's?
W Y> DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art.....
W Y> Essential home & bus. shareware
For example, the DTP Pro FM -Wave Clip-art.......type of clip art,
color, B&W, catagories of clip art, etc.
Essential home & bus. shareware could you give examples of the types of
shareware....Windows or DOS, etc...
Thanks!!
Transmission complete Captain.
Johnny Swindle
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From: JOHNNY SWINDLE Number: 4712
To: GLENN LOFTUS Date: 10/06/93 7:17p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr Worf, Hail GLENN LOFTUS. We must discuss "Re: 7th guest?."
G L>I downloaded an update from GEnie so that it only requires 450K
G L>of conventional memory to run. The update also improved support
G L>for the SB16ASP sound card I'm using.
G L>
G L>Look for T7GFIX3.ZIP and T7GF3B.ZIP on a board near you.
G L> --Glenn...
Hey,
Would you be interested in mailing a copy of that file to us poor
computer nerds here in Japan? If you are, then file of a letter (or
disk) to the following address:
Johnny Swindle
432 MG
PSC 76 Box 7408
APO AP 96319-7408
All us military types here in Japan would appreciate it!
Thanks!
Transmission complete Captain.
Johnny Swindle
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From: JOHNNY SWINDLE Number: 4713
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 10/06/93 7:32p
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr Worf, Hail DEBBIE MARANTZ. We must discuss "Just Some File Stuff."
D M>I logged on to Creative's BBS and while I was just touring around a
D M>came to me, this is a Global Echo and here on this side of the pond
D M>take the tech support for granted, so posted here are the lastest fi
D M>listings from Creative's BBS for SB and CD Rom support.
Thanks Debbie for the great listing from Creative Labs BBS!! To bad is
is really a "loooong distance phone call" for me!
Can't wait until I get back to the states!!
Thanks again!!
Transmission complete Captain.
Johnny Swindle
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4714
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:41a
Subj: Canadian Supplier Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it may be easier to
deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs etc.
Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4715
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:44a
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I noticed a post a few days ago about the World Book Encyclopedia. Does anyone
have any information on this. Is it available? How much? Etc?
Thanks in advance.
Eugene Fedorowich
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4716
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 8:01a
Subj: CD Software reviews Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
I can say that Battlechess (CD Version of course) is absolutely excellent!!
My kids love the tutorial and though the playing ability isn't the greatest
it will be able to beat 95% of the people out there. The sound and graphics
are both superb!!
Well worth the money!
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From: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Number: 4717
To: ALL Date: 09/25/93 7:52a
Subj: Chessmaster 3000 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original msg to: All
Can anyone comment on the Cd version of Chessmaster 3000.What are the
differences or enhancements over the DOS or windows disk versions if any?
Does it have a larger game library? Any comments or observations appreciated.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4718
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/02/93 9:32a
Subj: Caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> TT>GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compat
TT>GP> TT>GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I sho
TT>GP> have guessed. :-(((
TT>we believe Microsoft. The truth is that Windows is here to stay.
That's probably quite true.
TT>Especially lots' of CD-ROM:s benefit of Windows.
Frankly, I personally consider much of that multimedia stuff on CD-ROMs
to be a "gee-whiz gadget". My main interest in it is still as a cheap,
reliable, computer-readable removable program-and-archive storage
medium.
TT>It is very hard for me to
TT>imagine how to use say DOS WP and some electronic reference libraries on
TT>CD:s together. With plain DOS it is simply extremely clumsy.
Yes, I suppose, but personally I use Windows 90% of the time as just a
simple task switcher for running text-mode applications. At the moment,
for example, I am running SLMR/SLME in one (full-screen) text-mode DOS
Window, and I have a second text-mode DOS window which I can switch to
on a moment's notice to bring up (for example) the Software Toolworks
Reference Library, or the Toolworks Encyclopedia, or the ProPhone
Telephone Directory disc set. I suspect that I could install (for
example) the DR-DOS task switcher (which in fact I've never even tried
to use) or the equivalent, and 90% of the time that would do what I
need.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4719
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/02/93 9:35a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
[Pioneer 6-disc changer]
IA>> IA>Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio version on my
IA>> stereo system.
IA>> Right! And how much does the audio version of the drive cost?
IA>I have paid about $275 or 375 for it. TTYL
Exactly. See how Pioneer is ripping people off? The single-speed
version of that drive ought to cost about that same price, maybe $450 at
most... instead of almost twice that. That price is going to come down,
and fast... as soon as they get a little much-needed competition.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4720
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/02/93 9:38a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> TT>should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective coverin
TT>GP> (like
TT>GP> TT>caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
TT>GP> Why, if that "protective covering" clearly isn't needed?
TT>For example to write-protect rewritable CD:s by braking a notch in the
TT>caddy to prevent recording...
I wasn't talking about rewritable CDs (and neither was anybody else,
back when the CD standard was developed). I agree with you that a
write-protect hole would at least arguably be an advantage... but (truth
to tell) a switch on the front of the drive might be almost as good, and
better sometimes.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4721
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/02/93 9:41a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>GP> caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard c
TT>GP> from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
TT>GP> copy-protection from mainstream software products.
TT>But unfortunately consumers are divided in this question very badly.;-)
TT>Now what kind of campaign could we have against European software
TT>prices...
The same way. Just refuse to buy overpriced European-distributed
software, just as you ought to refuse to buy caddy-based drives.
TT>I saved your message. We can get back on the topic in the year 2000 and
TT>check how much caddies are around.
Please do! :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4722
To: DON KULHA Date: 10/02/93 9:48a
Subj: Conspiracy Fu Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DK> GP> If it ain't broken, don't fix it. CDs work JUST FINE without caddies.
DK> It clearly isn't necessary....millions of music players and probably
DK>million consumer data drives are spinning merrily along pleasing the heck ou
DK>of their users.
They would by and large be JUST as pleased without the stupid caddies.
DK> The new small rewriteable opticals do come in a cartridge and it's
And right THERE is the difference, there the disc COMES IN the carrier,
rather like a 3.5" diskette does (and there the whole shebang costing
less than a dollar each). How many people would be willing to put up
with 3.5" floppies if the plastic outer covering were sold separately,
for $5 each!??
The simple fact of the matter is that CD-ROMs are already damage
resistant, and it's no easier (in fact, it's harder) to put one into a
caddy than to put one directly into a caddyless drive.
If it ever got to the point that ALL CD-ROMs were to automatically come
in a caddy, at essentially NO increase in cost (haha) then you might
have a point. Don't hold your breath.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4723
To: ANDREW PAGE Date: 10/02/93 8:38p
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AP>DS> I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure
AP>DS> Bacckups BBS. I will
AP>DS> even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary get
AP>DS> on in the San Diego,
AP>DS> CA area.
AP>Excuse me, but when you address to "sysop" in this area, you're writing to
AP>EVERY sysop in the USA that carries this echo.
...even here in France, too. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4724
To: TOM KASHUBA Date: 10/02/93 9:12p
Subj: Quest for Good CD-ROMs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TK> Atlases (all those currently available) 0/5 - Save your money.
TK> .. Haven't seen any CD atlas that was worth the cost of its CD.
TK> .. All I've seen are pathetic, providing only crude world or
TK> .. continental maps with only 1 or 2 levels of zoom that only go
TK> .. as far as a whole state with little detail!
I agree, as far as the Software Toolworks World and US Atlas goes. But
take a look at the Global Explorer disc, or the US Street Atlas... both
are absolute marvels. Either one is (by itself) sufficient
justification for buying a CD-ROM drive.
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From: GERARD AUVRAY Number: 4725
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 3:43p
Subj: Buy a cd rom ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I will be in SAN DIEGO (CA) in mid October for a Congress (Computing in
Aerospace 9 in San Diego Princess Hotel).
I'll spend also one week of vacations in California and Arizona after
business activity !
I plan to buy a CD-ROM drive in the SAN DIEGO area. I'm looking for a
Panasonic 562, perhaps with a SB 16 ASP (I have a SB PRO). Could you
tell me where I can find a Computer Shop which sells this device (and at
which price !). Could you tell me also where to buy Cd-ROM's at good
prices ; I'm looking for Shareware CD-ROM, Encarta Encyclopedia and
other goodies you can tell me.
If you know good places in SAN DIEGO, LAS VEGAS,GRAND- CANYON area, for
sleeping, eating or entertainment, give me your bests informations
Best Regards GERARD
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 4726
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 10/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Mitsumi and DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
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BF> Its not with the Mitsumi CD-Rom but with Dos 6. There is a new version
BF> of Microsoft extensions (MSCDEX.EXE) that needs to be used. Under Dos
BF> 6, if you dont use the later mecdex.exe the unit will state incorrect
BF> dos version when it goes through the autoexec.bat file.
Yea, but a quick fix for that is to use setver. Works for me.
Mike
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 4727
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/06/93 6:51a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ernest Pressley to Donnie Raynor <=-
EP> Will any Scsi controller work or do Mitsumi have a controller that
EP> allows multiple drives of there's on it. Is there a # to contact them
EP> so that i can ask them for Tech Help!!
EP> Ernest
EP> -!- GoldED 2.41
EP> ! Origin: The Viper's Den____|San Diego,Ca|____ Another Snake on F
EP> (1:202/342)
Ernest the phone number for Mitsumi Tech Support is 1-408-970-0700. I'm
sure they can answer your questions.
Later,
Donnie
... MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 4728
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 6:57p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
NIGHT OWL 10
35.00 650+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files
For a complete price list of CDs leave net-mail address or fax#!
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% check/money
order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: CARL MOANS Number: 4729
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/02/93 12:02a
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
SG>OVER 200 TITLES
SG>$10.00 TO $50.00
SG>SEND TO:
SG>STEVE GREENO
SG>1275 E. PRINCE
SG>TUCSON AZ. 85719
SG>
I'd like to have a copy of that catalog.
Kevin May
1063 Bayner Rd
Baltimore, MD 21221
Thanks
Kevin
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From: VBALLNUT Number: 4730
To: TONY MARTIN Date: 10/06/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: Mad Dog McCree Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Tony Martin to All <=-
TM> I am considering buying the "Mad Dog McCree" CD based only on
TM> what I've seen in the arcade. Could someone please tell me what the
TM> game is like and whether it is worth buying it.
I don't have the game, but a friend of mine does and he LOVES it....can't
wait to get my own :-)
... Why look at the docs? The nurses look much better to me
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 4731
To: MARTY ESCARCEGA Date: 10/06/93 7:39a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
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> Ismail, when is Night Owl's 10 scheduled to be released? I'd like a copy.
> Is the cost $20?
Hi Marty,
Yes it is and should be in within few days. TTYL
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4732
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: NO.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD> Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
EP>Will that allow two Mitsumi's on one card or do i have to get a card for ea
EP>cd-rom drive.
EP>Ernest
Nope.. the only way to do it is with 2 cards (1 for each drive..)
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4733
To: BILL WOLFF Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: CD CARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD> Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have
SD> a layer plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to
SD> resist scratching and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the
SD> little nicks and scratch normally won't affect it..
SD> (If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
BW>Well maybe I am all wet, but I thought the whole idea of the CD was
BW>that as long as laser light could bounce through the plastic, it
BW>will read correctly. Light still gets through scratches and even big
BW>scratches.
BW>There was fear at one time that oxidation would erode the metal
BW>coating. Although I never heard of this being a problem. Maybe if
BW>you bury it for awhile, it might happen. Who knows.
BW>BTW, I use to work for Philips for 8 years and spent a good amount
BW>of time in Holland. Although nothing to do with the CD-ROM
BW>technology except we used them on our computers.
I never heard of the oxidation bit.. interesting but unlikely.. and the reason
I said big scratches do cause errors is because, Yes light can go through, but
it gets scattered going both ways.. then the signal becomes a bit scrambled an
you end up with read errors..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4734
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
EP>Will the Mitsumi drive controller handle more than one drive on it or do i
EP>have to keep buying controllers each time I add a Cd-rom!!
To clear this issue up, the mitsumi, and virtually all other brands of CD-Roms
that AREN'T SCSI, require a seperate card for each drive.. for the most part,
only SCSI drives allow daisy chaining..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4735
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/06/93 1:09p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>SUre man, you can hook up the CD-ROM to any 16 bit card and get real
AB>good music, I just
I think he was refering to the connector cable not the audio cable.. Yes the
audio can but I don't believe the interface cable can.. it can't on the SBPro.
l8r,
Scott
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From: TAMI THOMPSON Number: 4736
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 10/07/93 5:24p
Subj: Walkthroughs and Flybys Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! I got this CD-ROM with a book by the same name. It is published by Waite
Group Press, has a list price of $29.95, and I got it at a Barnes and Nobel
(sp?) bookstore in Minneapolis, but would assume it is available at B Daltons
or Waldens. It is a nifty book/CD-ROM disc! -Tami
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4737
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:19a
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have updated the catalog and it includes hardware for multimedia such as
sound cards and speakers. There is also a CDROM drive for $189 (350ms) with
interface card and 14.4k modems for $159. The printed catalog is ready now
and to those of you that inquired about it, you have been mailed a copy.
If there is seriouse CDROM shoppers out there that want a FREE catalog then
send me your name and address to 1:115/724 or log onto the SaveWare BBS at
708-724-2427. You may also freq CDROMCAT.ZIP from 1:115/724. Read the
sales letter to find out about the discount to FIDO CDROM conference users.
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4738
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:30a
Subj: CDROM drive $100 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Internal HITACHI CDROM for sale for $100. It is the drive only,
no interface card. Terry Blount of this cdrom echo sells the cards and cables
for this drive. It has drive select switchs for 1-4 drives. It is a 600ms
drive. I will ship it to anyware in the US for free and you can use your VISA
or Mastercard if you wish. If interested call me 'Don' at 708-657-1160 or
send Email to 1:115/724. I will also ship it to you C.O.D., I would require
$4.00 extra for the C.O.D. fee.*
** Don Rieb **
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From: DON RIEB Number: 4739
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:34a
Subj: NEC 35 CDROM drive $199 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If anyone is interesed in a ture SCSI drive that you can chain up to 7 drives
to a SCSI card then call me at 708-657-1160 or send E-Mail to 1:115/724.
These are the NEC 35 450ms SCSI portable external drives. They are
referbished drives and are at a exceptional price. You will need a SCSI
controller and cable to use the drive. They are great for Sysops that want to
chain a few of them onto there SCSI controller. If you are interested in
quantities then let me know how many you are interesed in and I will get back
with you on a price.
** Don Rieb **
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4740
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 10/05/93 8:54p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I $22.00
BJ>JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective II $48.00
BJ>JL>Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective III $52.00
BJ>
BJ> Thanks Jim. Do these prices include P.H.?
Hi Bob. My shipping & handling charge is $4 per order. I can come down
to $20 plus S&H for volume 1. Give me a call if you are interested.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 4741
To: CAPTAIN JAMES T KIRK Date: 10/05/93 9:07p
Subj: CD-ROM for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CJ>To whom it may concern,
CJ> I am now Co-SysOp of a BBS (StarLab BBS [819-56
CJ>and we have a CD-ROM, so after long hours of thinking it over (ok. may
CJ>minites but who's counting) we would like to buy BBS ready CD-ROM's an
CJ>appreciate any and all response.
Hello Fred. If you will post your address or give me a call, I'd be glad
to mail you our latest catalog. Thanks.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 4742
To: DAVID ROBERTS Date: 10/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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DR> BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DR> BW> DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE 128 M9
DR> BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\PAS16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7
DR> BW> DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\NECCDR.SYS /D:NECCD
DR> BW> DOS=HIGH,UMB
DR> BW> autoexec.bat:
DR> BW> LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:G /M:50 /E
DR> BW> LH C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM
DR> BW> PROMPT $G$GCDR*$P$G
DR> BW> PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\CDROM;C:\PAS16
DR> Ever thought about trying QEMM? It would easily boost your available
DR> memory to over 600K... easily.
DR>
Hi, I already use 386MAX. I Posted this to help someone who couldn't
get T7Guest running and chose to use Himem since I was sure it was
available to them.
I use several protected mode programs on a regular bases and running
most mem managers just gets in the way of PHARLAP.
I must maintain half a dozen boot configurations to keep life simple.
I use a multiple choice bat that uses the copy *.w31 *.sys trick.
thanks
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From: NIGEL ZETT Number: 4743
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 10:02a
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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I am also interested in the new sequel to 7th guest. Since you spoke with
Graeme, did he mention if it would require MPC-2 hardware? Also, there are
several things unresolved in 7th Guest (I have finished it, but I had to use
the Library Hint Book to solve the virus puzzle), and wondered if the new game
will continue where this leaves off.
All of that aside, do you or anyone else have a recommendation for a CD-ROM
game with the same features and quality as T7G? I've heard that Dune is
similar in content (audio/video-wise), and some of their older games such as
Conan are not too bad???
--─≡NIGEL»
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4744
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/01/93 1:13p
Subj: OKLAHOMA BBS BUST Refer: NONE
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> TD> In a manner of speaking, that's what numerous people with computers and
> TD> modems apparently have been worrying about since late July. That's
> TD> when Oklahoma City police raided Davis' software publishing firm
>Why is it that all you guys who run illegal systems
Tony's system was LEGAL. Just because someone was arrested does NOT mean
that they actually broke any laws - I PERSONALLY have spent time in jail for
crimes I did not commit.
>set yourselves up with dummy publishing firms
Tony's publishing firm was the group that published ALL of the "Magnum" series
CD-ROMs. This is NOT a "dummy firm" by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Just to add INSULT to injury, Tony's "other" firm was a registered COMMON
CARRIER, AKA Phone Company.
>every time the police crack down on illegal boards
The police have cracked down on FAR too many boards that were NOT illegal in
ANY way, shape, or form - take a GOOD look at the Steve Jackson Games case for
a PRIME example of this garbage.
The BLATENT violations of Constitutional Rights AND Federal LAW on the part of
the Secret Service ticked off the judge so much that HE DRESSED DOWN THE AGENT
IN CHARGE FOR 15 MINUTES IN COURT - and the Feds didn't even BOTHER trying to
present their defence, the SJ case was THAT devastating!
You would be wise to STUDY the situation before you insert your foot in your
mouth in public again....
8-<
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4745
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 10/01/93 4:52p
Subj: AUSSI CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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> DP> We Offer Dealers Prices For Sales of 5 or More Disks
> DP> Gifs Galore $25.00
> DP> Simtel latest $25.00
> DP> Windows April, 1993 $22.00
> DP> HOBBES OS/2 $25.00
> DP> Amiga Aminet $25.00 (out of stock)
> DP> Libris Britannica Vol. II $65.00
> DP> C Programmers Users Group $40.00
> Interesting, Are these prices your 5 up prices?
He's in trouble if so - those prices are HIGHER than most of the rest of us
sell those titles for on a single basis - WITH shipping....
Brice's Library
(exerpted from my) CD-ROM Price List 1 October 1993
5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
Indianapolis, IN 46220
Tue Thu 11 AM - 8 PM EST
Wed Fri 11 AM - 6 PM EST
(317) 726-1980 voice
(317) 726-1387 BBS
All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
GIFs Galore 15
Simtel 20 15
CICA Windows 15
Hobbes OS/2 Archives 16
Libris Britania 40
C User's Group Library 26
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From: KEITH SPEARS Number: 4746
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/05/93 2:29p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR> Have some new prices on some CD's
PR> 1-left Languages of the World ------- $17 (with book)
If this CD covers Sanskrit (preferably with a Sanskrit/English
dictionary), I will happily purchase it. Let me know here or netmail.
... I am not an animal! I am ... well, not an animal.
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From: KEITH SPEARS Number: 4747
To: WEE YUNG Date: 10/05/93 2:32p
Subj: CDROM titles forsale Refer: NONE
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WY> Dictionaries and Languages......$19
Does this CD cover Sanskrit, with a Sanskrit/English dictionary? If it
does, I am most likely interested.
... If you find everything, you will find a goat.
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From: STEVE PESANT Number: 4748
To: RYAN MENDEL Date: 10/05/93 5:09p
Subj: CDROM Setup PCSIG 12th E Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there!!
I saw one of your messages regarding PC-SIG 12th Edition..Setting it
up for a BBS...Hmm. I'll let ya in on a secret...IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO
BE USED ON BBS's...That's why it isn't BBS ready... If you want to
use it on a BBS, send the PC-SIG company a letter telling them your
intent to use it on a BBS...They'll send you (if you're accepted) all
the files that you'll need to get it to work easily..
Read the BBS information section on the Top Menu Header...it will
elaborate on what I;ve said here.
If you're looking for some good Shareware CD's for your BBS try using
Night Owls Disks or Pier Shareware...These are the two BEST companies
on the market today...Not too expensive and you REALLY get your
money's worth everytime..
-=Cheers=-
Steve.
... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free.
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From: DIETER NEUVIANS Number: 4749
To: ALL Date: 10/01/93 11:26p
Subj: The 7th Guest - Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From: Dieter Neuvians (neuvians@mango.apc.org)
On: Friday October 01 1993, at 23:26 hrs:
Hello All!
I have tried hard to get the game T7G running on a Compaq Deskpro 486/33M with
Compaq Vision 1024/E Video Board. Installation is no problem: CD-ROM drive
speed: 295K/sec, Video speed 100% (SVGA Video mode/ Soundblaster 2.0). After
starting the programme only the upper half of the screen shows some compressed
coloured lines, some unreadable text and five hands (?) waving to endless
music. No reaction to the keyboard.
Changing to MCGA or loading a 'CPQVESA.EXE' driver do not change anything.
Could QUEMM 7.01 interfere with the programme ? Thanks for ** any ** advice
since I am sitting a bit isolated in Zimbabwe.
Dieter
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Other E-mail addresses:
GeoMail: GEOD:GTZ-HSR
InterNet: GTZ-HSR@GEOD.GeoNet.de
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From: RON VANHOE Number: 4750
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/06/93 8:48p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
>SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can get
>mu
>SR>better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges either for
>SR>$29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per day at Video
>SR>rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
>
>I think there are a variety of reasons.
>
>1. XXX-rated images are very popular for downloading from BBSes.
>
>2. The image resolution is better in computer scans compared to video
>tape (which is at best about 400-500 pixels wide and 525 lines high, in
>the USA). Computer images go to 1024x768, which gives them much closer
>to photographic detail.
>
>3. There is more variety in the computer images, you can put thousands
>of radically different images on a single disc, whereas a videotape
>will only normally have a relatively small cast of characters and a
>limited number of locales, etc. This makes for more "surprise" aspect
>in the images as they come up, you never know what might come up next.
>
>4. There is something nice about the computer (a dehumanizing thing in
>some ways) being used for things which are the EPITOME of being human.
>
>* SLMR 2.1 *
>
>
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From: RON VANHOE Number: 4751
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 8:49p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On the same topic of XXX, what is the best XXX cd to put online???
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From: PAUL PERHACS Number: 4752
To: DEAN BUXTON Date: 10/06/93 6:24p
Subj: CD capacity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dean,
I stopped at a local radio shack yeaterday for you and checked out the only
drive that they had. It was decent and they had it on sale for $299. I did not
like the loading of the cd however. You yanked out a slim cartridge to insert
the disk. If you got one for, $149, I am sure that you can't go wrong.
Good luck,
Paul
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From: SCOTT GIBSON Number: 4753
To: RICHARD J COX Date: 10/06/93 10:36p
Subj: Re: Do I Know You?? Refer: NONE
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RJ> I realize there are probably a few thousand Scott Gibson's,
RJ> but do you happen to be the Scott Gibson I went to high school
RJ> with in Oshkosh???
RJ>
RJ> A little off topic, I know, but I couldn't resist asking!
Rich,
Sorry. Never been to Oshkosh. My high school was in VA. :-)
-- Scott
Richmond, VA
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4754
To: LEE BAILEY Date: 10/04/93 5:18p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
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On 29/09/93, LEE BAILEY wrote...
LB> Are those prices US? I can do ALOT better than that if you're
LB> interested.
They sure were.....
Marc.
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4755
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 8:00p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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On 29/09/93, JASON SUTTLE wrote...
JS> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about
JS> the sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I
JS> talked to Graeme Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a
JS> few months ago, and he said they were shooting to release the
JS> sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be most appreciated.
I hear that the sequel is in the making, and will appear on the newish 3DO
system. No doubt it will also make it's way to the PC at the same time....
Marc.
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 4756
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/04/93 6:13p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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On 29/09/93, JASON SUTTLE wrote...
JS> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about
JS> the sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I
JS> talked to Graeme Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a
JS> few months ago, and he said they were shooting to release the
JS> sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be most appreciated.
I hear that the sequel is in the making, and will appear on the newish 3DO
system. No doubt it will also make it's way to the PC at the same time....
Marc.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 4757
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/06/93 8:28a
Subj: Re: 7Th Guest? Refer: NONE
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On 10-02-93, Corey Biccum elucidated to Walter Chisenski:
CB>Yeah, I got 7th guest to work now, I had to use qemm 7.0 to load
CB>everything up there, and now I have 649k to play with. The problem no
CB>Is that I think It's going a bit slow, cause qemm uses my video cards
CB>memeory.. 1 meg..
Sorry, but Qemm doesn't take memory used by your video card unless it
reallocates it, in which case your graphics wouldn't work at all. The
slowness is due to something else - eg what cdrom drive are you using, and
what graphics card? What did 7th Guest tell you when it tested these
components?
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 4758
To: LEE BAILEY Date: 10/05/93 4:41p
Subj: Cd Kits Prices <Aust> Refer: NONE
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LB>Are those prices US? I can do ALOT better than that if
LB>you're interested.
Nope! Australian prices. I _know_ the US has a lot cheaper CD prices, but
unfortunately we don't! :(:( Oh well... the way the dollar is going, it'll be
cheaper to buy them here <in Australia> anyway!
-T-
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From: RICKY SCHULTZ Number: 4759
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 6:30p
Subj: pioneer cd-rom Refer: NONE
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Hi there... I was wondering if anyone out there could give me info on the
Pioneer DRM-600-A CD-ROM 6 player system... eg approx retail price and what
type of SCSI controller card it requires...
Thanks in Advance..
Ricky
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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT Number: 4760
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 3:36a
Subj: CD jewel case insert program Refer: NONE
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Anyone here in OZ have that Windows program for printing the paper inserts for
CD cases?
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From: MARKUS GOEBEL Number: 4761
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 1:32p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Stack Drives Refer: NONE
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Hi there,
I'm currently looking to buy a Pioneer 6-Stack CD-ROM drive (not sure whether
it'll be the normal one or the Quad-Spin, depends on price). If anyone out
there knows of any good deals going in either Australia or the US please
reply in this echo or via Netmail. For prices ex USA, is the drive available
with 240v/50hz power supply?
Many thanks, Markus.
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From: MARKUS GOEBEL Number: 4762
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/06/93 1:35p
Subj: Re: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Ronald Leon to Julian Schoffel <=-
RL> Julian Schoffel beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
JS>I have a NEC Multispin, which is supposed to be one of the fastest CD-
JS>drives around at the moment. I was thinking of getting CD Speedway wh
JS>caching program.
RL> I got lousey results with Speedway but got excellent results with
RL> Lightning CD.
RL> Ron
Ron,
Could you please provide some extra info on "Lightning CD"; like who
publishes it and how much does it cost.
Regards, Markus.
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From: POE LIM Number: 4763
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 12:31a
Subj: Where To Buy Sb16/Mm Upg Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Oct 04 20:43 in a msg to Steve Mann, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
RE> The kits as-above were written up in "The Australian" about three
RE> weeks ago, along with RRPs! But Creative Labs are doing funny
RE> things at the moment!
Spoke to a local(Aust) dealer recently; said CP may drop their prices soon.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: MALCOLM WRIGHT Number: 4764
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/05/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
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RE> Hi Terry!
RE>
RE> On 09-24-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
RE>
TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
TM>
TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
TM>
Stuff deleted
TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to
TM> work with the SB-Pro,
TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive ->
Stuff deleted
TM> Amplifier if no SB is there.
RE> Panasonic's brochure calls it a CR562 series,
RE> their manual for the drive
RE> calls it a CR562B.... The spex you have stated are
RE> exactly the same as
RE> those for the CR562B, so I'd guess he's just being
RE> lazy! As to requiring
RE> an additional card to work with the SB Pro/16/16
RE> ASP.... that's bullsh*t...
RE> the CR562B will attach directly to the SB
RE> Pro/16/16 ASP... What it *DOES*
RE> require is a $A50.00 "controller" if you *DON'T*
RE> have an SB Pro/16/16 ASP!
Thanks for clearing that up Rowan!
I was getting a little bit worried!
Can anyone out there tell me whether the CR-562-B will work under Os/2.
Wanting to use it for my BBS, and can't afford a mistake. (Running Maximus/2).
Bye Guys.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4765
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/06/93 10:47a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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GP>The intelligent way for a library to use CD-ROMs is for them to place
GP>the requested disc in a LAN server behind the desk, and let the patro
GP>access it via the LAN from their workstation.
It won't work this way unforatunately, as the data is on 48 disks, and
you are regularly asked to swap them.
Cheers
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From: JASON HATLEY Number: 4766
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/05/93 4:36p
Subj: Re: windows or dos Refer: NONE
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In a message of <24 Sep 93 00:36:27>, Chris Snyder writes :
> Is it better to run a game, for example King's Quest VI, in dos
> or windows, if you are wanting the best sound and graphics?
hehe... thats a silly question.. everything runs better just
under DOS.. :) Bye!!
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 4767
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 10/05/93 7:54p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
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Hi there,
SG> Which BB do you have?
SG> The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that
SG> means the first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
SG> Does your BB feature Playboy GIF's?
Let me put it this way, I own 2 copies of Playboy (seriously just 2, a
regular issue from 1988 and a Playmates combo issue) there is probably at least
one picture from each 'set' from the two magazines on the disk. There is even
one in the Amature section of the CD-ROM which is of a realativly famous TV
person from a few years back. (Sorry I forget her name just now.)
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4768
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: NEW CDs Refer: NONE
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>> Hi Boris,
>> I'm looking for CDROMs :
>> . Professional Shareware
>> . Multimidia
>> . OS/2
>> . BBS software (BBS util)
>> Send me a message with the titles and prices, O.K. ?
>> (Or crash me again). Thanks for the five CDs, they are
>> really good, but "I'm hungry" :-) ... So I want more and more
>> ... []s Rodolfo Vaz
>> NC806
Info on it's way......Just don't start eating the cd's, although I think
we have more than enough to take care of your needs.
Chat with you soon....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4769
To: KERRY ARCHER Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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BO>> Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
BO>> NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
BO>> Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
BO>> Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
BO>> Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
BO>> Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
BO>> Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
BO>> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
BO>> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
BO>> ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
>> Boris,
>> What's the difference between the Pioneer DMR600 and the
>> Pioneer DMR604X?
The DMR600 is a 600ms unit with 150kps transfer rate, while the DMR604 is a
300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Both units support SCSI & SCSI 2
and are MPC compliant and you can dasiy chain up to seven units off the same
controller. Also, the 604X is Kodak Multi-session approved as well.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4770
To: BILL GOCHNOUR Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: Adult Refer: NONE
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>> Disclaimer mode..... I am not sure if this is allowed or not
>> but I think I saw a msg stating as long as it's
>> tasteful.....???? If this is not allowed I appologize.
>> I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be
>> bbs ready AND have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of
>> files that have been scanned from magazines that like to sue
>> people. If such a disc is out there can someone let me know
>> the name(s)? If your a dealer and you have such a dsic can
>> you let me know prices too? Thanx
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and I'am sure we can help you out.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4771
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: cdrom cable Refer: NONE
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>> Does anyone know where I can find the cable that plugs into my
>> new ds Panasonic cdrom and my new sbpro card? Do I have to
>> call Panasonic to order this cable? Neither my card or my
>> drvie came with this cable, but I think I need one to hear
>> audio cd's over my sb. Or should I just forget the cable and
>> go spend a few bucks on a new pair of speaker, so I can plug
>> them into my cdjack for listening to audio cd's. Anyone help
>> me here? Panasonics phone #?
Have them in stock !! If your interested, give us a call at 800-243-0517
and we'll be happy to assit you further.
Yes, the 800 number can be used from Canada just fine !!
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4772
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/07/93 2:07a
Subj: Re: Sb compatible cd-rom:s Refer: NONE
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>> Can anyone give me a complete list of CD-ROM drives that are
>> compatible with Soundblaster cards. This means drives that can
>> be controlled by SB:s integrated controller thus eliminating
>> the need of a separate controller in asystem with SB. I need
>> main specs. like speed, access time caddy/no-caddy and a
>> current US-price.
The Panasonic 562B will do what you want. It offers 320ms access time
with 300kps transfer rate. It's MPC compliant and Kodak multi-session
approved and you can dasiy chain up to 4 units on the same controller
and yes it will work under OS/2 as well.
The price is also very nice at only $249.US and that's for a complete
system with interface.
Need additional, fax us your request at 216-225-6759 anytime or drop us
a note via the Fidonet address below and well be happy to assist you
further as we do have these in stock.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4773
To: BILL GOCHNOUR Date: 10/06/93 7:57a
Subj: Adult Refer: NONE
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BG> I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be bb
BG> AND have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of files that h
BG> scanned from magazines that like to sue people. If such a disc
BG> there can someone let me know the name(s)? If your a dealer an
BG> have such a dsic can you let me know prices too? Thanx
If you'll hold on to your horses a bit, Florida Lion's Den is promising
to publish just such a disk (in fact several) between now and the end of
the year. First one's due out this month as I recall. Suposed to be T&A
and meet your specs. I'll be publishing a review of it ASAP (producer
has promised an early copy). Other than that, what'll presently meet
your legal specs probably won't meet your visual expectations. (IMO).
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4774
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/06/93 8:05a
Subj: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: NONE
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NR> before. What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to un
NR> file on my TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold
NR> Anybody ever heard of this? The files
I use 2.04g all the time without any problems. This may sound stupid,
but you're not logged to the CD when you're unZIPing are you? Unless
directed to do otherwise, PKZIP will try to write to the default drive
and, well,.....your particular config may not be very tolerant of such
antics. Just a thought....
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 4775
To: ELDON WAKEFIELD Date: 10/06/93 10:09p
Subj: Re: PHOENIX 4.0 Refer: NONE
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Yes, I haven't got it yet but am suppose to recieve it on Friday. I run
a TG so I don't know if it will be any different or not. I sure do hope
that it's a goodie cause I have heard alot about it. Does it live up to
it's reputation?
Pirate
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4776
To: JAMIE PASSEY Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jamie Passey wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXI would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably cheap (since i don't
XXXhave much $$).. how much does a good drive cost? How much does a CD with
XXXtons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
+-------------------------------+
The Mitsumi drives retail for less than $200. They have an adequate
speed. They are considerably slower than the double speed drives, but
are MPC compatible.
I just purchased Pier1 and Pier2 from a place out in California for $49.
The prices vary depending on what you're buying for shareware.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4777
To: TONY SIMMONS Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: cd games Refer: NONE
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Tony Simmons wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXDoes anybody know if the cd game Rebel Assault is shipping yet?
+-------------------------------+
Not yet. I believe it will ship sometime in early November (hopefully
:) )
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4778
To: PETER BOSTOCK Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter Bostock wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXWhich is preferable, an AT-bus or a SCSI interface for the drive?
XXX(I will only buy one CD player and probably the next PC I'll buy
XXXwill have local bus HD etc plus I don't have any other expansion devices
XXXto crowd the motherboard. The only reason for buying a SCSI would be
XXXfor speed or data transfer (I run OS/2 2.1 and have heard mutterings of
XXXthe advantages of a true concurrent processing OS with data transfer
XXXvia SCSI)
SCSI is the best way to go. Most good drives require a SCSI interface
anyhow.
XXXHow does the audio player work through a sound card. Do you need a sound
XXXcard with connections so that the CD player can output through the sound
XXXcard's jacks. I want to connect the sound card to a preamp and get CD
XXXquality sound through my hifi. What cards would deliver that quality?
XXXWhat about the Soundblaster Pro, the Pro Audio Spectrum or
XXXthe Sound Galaxy NX
Most of the CD-ROM software available plays audio through the
soundblaster as a digitized sound file. CD Audio can go through a
soundcard with the proper connections. I prefer to just use the
headphone port on the front of the drive.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4779
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: Apple II/IIgs shareware Refer: NONE
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I'm trying to build up a library of Apple II, and IIgs files for my
bulletin board. I was wondering if anyone knew of a CD-ROM (ISO 9660
compatible) which contains shareware and PD software. Any information
would be appreciated. I'm trying to organize an Apple II on-line user
group. Such a CD would be quite helpful.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4780
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: CDROM games Refer: NONE
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Corey Biccum wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXWhat about Indianna Jones, another one I want to buy but
XXXnot sure if its the same deal. Does anyone know if ERic
XXXthe Unready, and Indianna Jones has speach in them?
+-------------------------------+
I'm not sure about Eric the Unready, but I do know that Indiana Jones is
enhanced for CD (because I own it :) ). Indy CD adds full speech. It
will be awhile before more CD-ROM exclusive software is released.
Companies are finding it more profitable to shovel their games over to
CD with only minor enhancements. LucasArts seems to be doing the best
job out of everyone at the moment. Both Indy CD, and DOTT CD are
fantastic. Rebel Assault is on the way. They really have their act
together as far as CD-ROM software is concerned.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4781
To: SOL-LOTARR Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sol-Lotarr wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXHi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which CD-Rom
XXXcompatable with the card...I appreicate any help on the subject. BTW I am
XXXlooking for something under $350 but am willing to pay more. Bye
+-------------------------------+
It all depends on what you mean by "compatible." If you are purchasing
a separate SCSI card, it will work with any software that supports the
Soundblaster and Pro. I believe the SBPro has a propiertary interface
for its connection to a CD drive. Only a few on the market support that
interface.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4782
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 10:06a
Subj: Walkthroughs and Flybys Refer: NONE
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Does anyone know where to get the WalkThroughs and Flybys CD-ROM? It's
a CD which contains graphic and sound presentations from The Future
Crew, and other European demo groups. Any information and leads would
be appreciated!
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 4783
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 10/06/93 7:49a
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
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-> ken uhrick
-> 1685 whitehurst av
-> homosasa fl 34448
-> phone 904-628-5286
-> voice
Will do!
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From: HENNIE VAN DALEN Number: 4784
To: RAY DYER Date: 10/03/93 5:36p
Subj: CD Rom scratches Refer: NONE
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Hallo Ray!
Tuesday September 21 1993 22:10, Ray Dyer wrote to All:
RD> The only variable seen are the micro scratches only seen by light
RD> reflecting off of them at a certain angle.
Are there any scratches on the "label-side" of the CD ?. This side seems
to be more sensitive to scratching, because it is part of the built-in mirror
Many people think that the shiny-side of a CD is the part to prevent for
scratching, but this is not true.
Even by sticking a label on a CD the coating can be damaged.(and also it
can cause an unbalance, which can damage your drive while spinning)
Greetings,
Hennie
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From: ARIE RIETKERK Number: 4785
To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 9:05p
Subj: Hobbes os2 cd version 10/93 Refer: NONE
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Yoo All!
Does anybody know WHEN and WHERE i can buy the NEW HOBBES OS2 shareware cd?
The one of 10/93.....NOT the 06/93
Thanks in advance!
C_your_BITS_L8er: A_RIEtkerk.
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From: WADE NORTON Number: 4786
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 6:56a
Subj: ROMDOOR Refer: NONE
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Hello all,
I'm having problems connecting to the ROMDOOR support BBS. I need a copy of
the RomDoor database for CD-Winbox v1.0. Can someone out the make it available
to me for FREQ? It would very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Wade
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4787
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
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| Title: PIER 3 Price: $39 |
* 628mb total * Separate <ASP> directory. * 100% files dated 1993
* All files virus-scanned * FILES.BBS Support * < 1% dupes to 1 & 2
* Most current files on the market. Over 98% dated AFTER 4/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4788
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 11:26p
Subj: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29 Refer: NONE
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| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT CD-ROM! |
| Title: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK Price: $29 |
* Source code for DOS, Windows, OS/2, Mac, Unix, and GNU
* Working demos of the products most needed by programmers
* 1000's of programmer's tools and utilities * BBS-Ready
* Covers all major languages: Basic, C, C++, Pascal, Fortran, + more!
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 4789
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 10/05/93 8:25a
Subj: Thanks for the responses Refer: NONE
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Hello Edward,
Tuesday September 21 1993 05:29, Edward Tushar wrote to All:
ET> Are there any other shareware CD's that will run under a door like
ET> Mega-Demo? My BBS system does not use any other BBS's file structures.
ET> (i.e FILES.BBS) I run Harmony. Thanks in advance.
If you can create a drop file, RomBrain from Brainex Systems is about the best
CD-Rom Door I've seen. At present, he supports Genesis, Gap, Generic, and the
list goes on. The interface itself supports 99 drives or volumes if you don't
have that many drives. You can configure it to D/L off the CD itself or you can
use a work directory and copy to it from the CD, pray tell as to why someone
would want to do that though...I have some of the slowest drives created and I
configured D/L's off the CD and have seen 1850cps..AnyWho, the interface also
supports Rip Graphics and has a compiler built in so as to compile the filebase
that will be present on your HD, for faster reading of same.
Personally, I think its the best on the market. It supports the four drives I
have without a hitch. Stop by and have a look if ya want... The number is below
and you can take the latest copy with you. You'll need Brainex.Zip &
RomBrain.Zip, the later being the Door Manager and RomBrain being the CD-rom
Door itself. I run a slew of Cd-Roms, all NiteOwls Versions, Mega, PowerPak
etc.
Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs "
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From: JOE BLENKLE Number: 4790
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 3:06p
Subj: CD phone listings Refer: NONE
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Don't know if this is appropriate here, but as it has to do with CDs,
maybe so...
Has anyone out there seen this CD I've seen advertised that
contains over 70 million residential phone numbers? If you
have and either have it or have access to it, please contact
me here as I would like you to look something up for me.
Thanks...
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 4791
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/09/93 6:50a
Subj: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: 7118
Read: NO Private: No
-> I've got a really different problem that maybe somebody has experienc
-> What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to unzip any file
-> TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold boot! Anybody
My system does the exact same thing! Is your TEXEL drive wired thru a
PAS 16 sound card?
tim
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From: WES MATTHEWS Number: 4792
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 10/06/93 6:05p
Subj: CD'S SLAE/TRADE Refer: NONE
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KM>Looking for Latest Family Doctor, San Diego Zoo Windows, Adult!
What you what the Family Dr. instead of the Mayo?? I was looking
through the Computer shopper and the other lists.. They got tons
of stuff, I think I'm going to go with either a Texel Double
Speed or NEC Multispin... Check around on your BBS's and see
what there are saying about them.. It seems as though they're a
hit up here...C-ya
Wes
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 4793
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 4:07p
Subj: Disc Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a disk with sound and animation files (that I can allow users
to download).. If you know of one, please reply with the title and where it
might be available....
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 4794
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/08/93 4:09p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat
MS> DOOR (1:3407/101)
First of all, your message has multiple tag lines.. Not good with the FTSC...
Second, is the chat a multinode chat?
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4795
To: MICHAEL JESSY Date: 10/05/93 11:41p
Subj: The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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There is help available, the utility is called UHSDOS.ZIP which is the file
reader and the help file which contains hints and solutions is called T7G.UHS.
I came across the files on America OnLine, but they should also be available on
some of the other online services, Compuserve, Genie, etc. Also, you may be
able to find what you require on one of your larger BBS'es.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4796
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 10/06/93 12:42a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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In a message of 02 Oct 93 John Rackley wrote to Glenn Loftus:
JR> RE: CD-32 module for the Amiga 1200.
JR>
JR> The question is - since the CD-32 essentially IS an Amiga 1200 on the
JR> inside, what is the CD-32 add-on going to consist of other than the
JR> CD-ROM drive itself?
Probably just the chunky->planar conversion chip, and Workbench 3.1, which
includes drivers for the CD32 and 11 button joystick.
Gary
... Pirating taglines is wrong!
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From: ED RIJNHOUT Number: 4797
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/05/93 10:52a
Subj: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
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Hello Neil,
Here is my adress:
Ed Rijnhout
Alerdincksngl. 96
3073 JB Rotterdam
Holland
Please send me a catalog
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 4798
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 10/03/93 4:30p
Subj: Extra harddisk problem Refer: NONE
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Hello Robert,
Just a wild guess but could it be that your LASTDRIVE statement in your
config.sys is set to 'D' ? If so change it to 'E'. Current version of MSCDEX
I am using is 2.2, if you have an older version you could try to get this
version.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 4799
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 10/03/93 4:34p
Subj: Extra harddisk problem Refer: NONE
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Hello Robert,
Just a wild guess but could it be that your LASTDRIVE statement in your
config.sys is set to 'D' ? If so change it to 'E'. Current version of MSCDEX
I am using is 2.22, if you have an older version you could try to get this
version.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: ROB VAN DER OUDERAA Number: 4800
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 10/03/93 4:45p
Subj: Extra harddisk problem Refer: NONE
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Hello Robert,
"
Recently I installed another hard drive for my BBS and configured it as
the Slave drive, designation D. Since there is a specific variable for
teh CD rom extension in the Config and Autoexec files, I figured I could
just change this to reconfigure the CD as E....
However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such nonsense when
autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey? Can it be done?
"
I tried this on my system, just for the fun of it, and you should have
the following line in your autoexec.bat :
mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /V /M:15 /L:E
The last parameter is the important one, it tells mscdex to use the E drive.
You also need to change the config.sys file with your CD driver in it. I use
SBCD and a soundblaster pro card, and then the line is :
device = sbcd.sys /D:MSCD001 /p:220 /L:E
Again the last parameter is the important one, telling the driver to install
itself as drive 'E'.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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From: KEVIN LEE Number: 4801
To: JAMIE PASSEY Date: 10/08/93 12:36a
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
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JP> I would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably
JP> cheap (since i don't
JP> have much $$).. how much does a good drive cost?
JP> How much does a CD with
JP> tons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
I got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive with AT-bus controller, caddy & driver for
sale. Do you interest in it. $350 Ok?
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4802
To: MARCUS LEE Date: 10/06/93 8:13p
Subj: 7th Guest 100% Refer: NONE
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Hi Marcus!
On 10-03-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Rowan Evans...
ML> RE> ML> I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics
ML> RE> ML> Ultra Pro 2mb vram EISA version.... about the only card I
ML> RE> ML> know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score 100%...
ML>
ML> RE> What version of T7G install? I borrowed an older (1.04) version
ML> RE> and got 86% on the ATI GUPro ISA... Then bought a 1.2 version
ML> RE> and only got 66% for the same card/same machine...
ML>
ML> How do you find out the version number?
Printed on the top of the CD-ROMs, right next to the "Only for OEM
bundle" notice! <g>
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4803
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 10/06/93 8:15p
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 10-03-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> I logged on to Creative's BBS and while I was just touring
DM> around a thought came to me, this is a Global Echo and here
DM> on this side of the pond we do take the tech support for
DM> granted, so posted here are the lastest file listings from
DM> Creative's BBS for SB and CD Rom support.
..[file listing deleted for brevity]..
DM> So there you have it, for some it may give some insight in
DM> what to look for to solve a problem or a much needed update.
Thanx for the file listing! I'll compare it to the one on the local
Creative Pacific BBS to see if the file dates are close!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4804
To: PETER BOSTOCK Date: 10/06/93 9:05p
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
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Hi Peter!
On 10-03-93 Peter Bostock wrote to All...
PB> Which is preferable, an AT-bus or a SCSI interface for the drive?
PB> (I will only buy one CD player and probably the next PC I'll buy
PB> will have local bus HD etc plus I don't have any other expansion
PB> devices to crowd the motherboard. The only reason for buying a SCSI
PB> would be for speed or data transfer (I run OS/2 2.1 and have heard
PB> mutterings of the advantages of a true concurrent processing OS with
PB> data transfer via SCSI)
Well, you say you'll run OS/2 2.1.... Poe Lim has done some tests that
compared a Toshiba SCSI and a Panasonic AT-bus drive.... They both ran
out about the same, but with the SCSI giving a higher "perceived"
transfer rate due to the faster (330Kbps) spex of the Toshiba drive....
Under DOS, it appears to be a different story, with the Panasonic doing
a bolter compared to a couple of SCSI CD-ROM drives....
As to "true concurrent processing" I suggested this to Poe and he rebutted
the idea....
PB> How does the audio player work through a sound card. Do you need a
PB> sound card with connections so that the CD player can output through
PB> the sound card's jacks. I want to connect the sound card to a preamp
PB> and get CD quality sound through my hifi. What cards would deliver
PB> that quality? What about the Soundblaster Pro, the Pro Audio Spectrum
PB> or the Sound Galaxy NX Pro? I want a card which will deliver CD quality
PB> stereo sound.
Most sound cards (at least the ones I've seen) have a CD-In connector, that
connects to the "Audio Out" of the CD-ROM drive. The sound gets passed from
the CD-ROM drive via this connector to the sound card, where it passes
through the on-board amplifier (which can often be disabled) and is output
to the "line out" jack, where the speakers are connected.
I have had/used both a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 and an SB 16 ASP for playing
Audio CDs.... I couldn't tell the difference... When it comes to FM sound
and the other sound capabilities of the sound cards, I believe the PAS 16
is the better of the two, but everyone has their own favourite sound card.
It only becomes a real hassle if you want a sound card/CD-ROM single slot
solution.... Then you have to choose between AT-bus drives or SCSI and
SB or PAS or GUS or SG NX Pro....
PB> How do you connect the drive, sound card together? Does the CD-ROM
PB> have both sound jacks as well as a data bus connection (AT or SCSI)
As mentioned earlier, there's normally a "CD-In" connector on the
sound card....
Cheers!
o
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4805
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/06/93 10:48p
Subj: CD-ROM Analyzor Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> You can download it from our BBS at 509-457-0206. I will be making a
MS> newcomparison chart, just as soon as I have all the new CD's in hand.
MS> (Stillwaiting on Night Owl 10)
Thanks, someone told me it was on Software Vault Gold, so I grabbed it off
there.
To save you some time, I have made a comparision chart of the following (some
were kept off your old one):
Pier 1
Pier 2
Pier 3
Night Owl 7
Night Owl 9
Cream of the Crop
Shareware Studio II
Shareware Studio III
Monster Disc II Part 1
Monster Disc II Part 2
Software Vault 2
Software Vault Gold
So Much Shareware 2
So Much Shareware 3
Dr.Shareware
Dr.Windows
It's almost totally finished, but I won't be able to post it as a message
because of it's width. I will be making it available for FREQ, though, so it
may be better to pay for the toll call (prob about US$1-2 over to New Zealand I
guess), and save yourself the time for all of those ones!
I'll post the name in a day or so when I have it all set up.
Cheers.
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4806
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 10/07/93 8:35p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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Hi Robert!
On 10-02-93 Robert Stephens wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
RS> I hate Creative Labs myself, for owning a sbpro for over a year and
RS> getting a PAS-16 the difference in sound is phoenominal.
I refused to buy an SB Pro, waited for the SB 16 ASP! I have had a
PAS 16, so I can talk reasonably authoritavely on both cards...
I preferred the PAS 16 sound, but wanted the Panasonic CD-ROM
controller support......
RS> RE> BTW, the PAS 16 only has a polled, 68Kbps SCSI-1 SCSI host
RS> RE> adapter... Adequate for a CD-ROM drive, but hardly what I'd
RS> RE> call an "Excellent" SCSI card....
RS>
RS> Well, its 680Kb a sec... Its well suited to its intended purpose.
True, but there are a heap of msgs starting to appear from people wanting
to attach HDDs to the PAS 16's SCSI connector!
..[truncated]..
RS> RE> CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RS> RE>
RS> RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
RS>
RS> The PAS-16 has Yamaha OPL-3, but only hardware SB (mono) em. Pity it
RS> has this, I feel a lot of games writers dont bother specifically
RS> supporting the PAS-16 and just use the SB emulation, when the PAS-16
RS> is a million times better.
The PAS 16 *IS* better than the standard SB, but I wouldn't make the
cheque out for *QUITE* that much!
RS> RE> CZ> ..[GUS].. 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RS> RE>
RS> RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
RS>
RS> Heh, who bought a SB16 ?
And I stand behind it (because you guys keep throwing rotten eggs!) and
my reasons for purchase of it, as it does what I want it to do :-
1. Provide support for my Panasonic CR562b CD-ROM drive.
2. Provide a single-slot sound/CD-ROM control solution.
3. Provide 100% native SB Pro 2 (OPL3) and SB support
4. Provide 16 bit playback/record sound.
These reasons are in order of priority... So whilst I admit that its not
the absolute best sound card on the market, its the one for me!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4807
To: DANIEL CAROLLO Date: 10/07/93 8:38p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Daniel!
On 10-01-93 Daniel Carollo wrote to Rowan Evans...
DC> > Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then,
DC> > I'll stand by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared
DC> > to the CR-562B/CR563!
DC> >
DC> > Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though -
DC> > it has a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
DC>
DC> Who cares about fairness ? Is it fair to compare a CR-562B
DC> with others, it is a double speed drive after all ;-)
Yes it is, as the drives I was comparing to were *ALL* double speed drives!
DC> Let's see the comparison, and our choice will be that much more
DC> informed.
Wait 'till I update it! (I just got a copy of CDSPEED, a CD-ROM
benchmarking program, so I want to run it against the various drives
I have access to before re-posting results!).....
Cheers from Sunny Sydney, Australia (Home of the 2000 Olympics!)
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4808
To: BEN SHIELDS Date: 10/07/93 9:20p
Subj: Multi session? Refer: NONE
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Hi Ben!
On 10-03-93 Ben Shields wrote to All...
BS> this will probably sound like a dumb question and
BS> has also probably been answered before but could someone
BS> tell me what multisession means and if it is worth having
BS> it on a CD-rom drive as I am considering buying a CD-rom
BS> and want a cheap one (Huh).
Multisession refers to having the ability to view multiple Kodak
Photo CD sessions (the standard CD-ROM only has a single, spiral
track, like an Audio CD, Photo CD allows for multiple tracks to be
written to the CD-ROM, the second and subsequent tracks starting
after the start of the previous track).
BS> The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems
BS> and its description goes like this :
BS> CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD, Multisession
BS> 350 ms access
BS> $399.95
You don't mention the other *MOST* important consideration of the spex
on a CD-ROM drive, the transfer rate!
BS> Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I
BS> wan't teh CD-Rom only for the GREAT file capacity ! and I
BS> only have a Thunder Board sound card (NOt looking to
BS> upgrade either, Well atleast until GUS drops in price
BS> anyway!)
Dows Tamworth have a local Osborne Computers shop?? They sell a kit
called the CD-200 which includes a Panasonic CR562b CD-ROM drive
(300Kbps, 320ms avg access, CD-ROM XA & Multisession Photo CD compat.)
with paddle card (controller) cables & device driver software....
Cost? Around $395.00....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4809
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/07/93 9:26p
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Neil!
On 09-28-93 Neil Ripston wrote to Rick Potts...
NR> RP> That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
NR>
NR> And I must say a great!! program. I wonder why he's selling it.
Maybe he saw/bougt a copy of Software Toolworks/Groliers? <g>
o
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4810
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 7:26a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> The SB 16 is a *VAST* step up from the PC speaker for games, and as
Wavetable is at least as big a step up on top of that...
RE> *NOT IMPORTANT*...... The SB 16 MIDI sounds OK to me too!
If SB16 midi, (which sounds exactly the same as SBpro midi, and very
similar to all other FM MIDI) sounds good to you, you haven't heard
wavetable. I have put together a file of about 700k, which includes a
MIDI file, which you can play on your SB, and a 16 bit WAV file of the
same MIDI file being played by the Ensoniq wavetable chip on the GUS.
Look for a file called GUSVSB.ARJ, it is available on Galen bbs, and
500cc bbs in Sydney. It is a good way to compare FM to wavetable. A real
eye opener (ear opener?). I felt the need to make such a program to help
overcome the ignorance of many people of wavetable :-)
Borrow, steal, hijack a waveblaster and slap it in.
RE> AS> Yeah but you save all those other slots for scanners, HD
RE>controllers
RE> AS> etc etc... Again giving a typical system 3 or more slots free.
RE>
RE> ? You lost me here...... Are you saying that if you have 7 CD-ROM
RE>drives
RE> on a SCSI h/a you're saving slots??
No, I'm saying you can put say 3 or 4 CDroms on a SCSI controller, as
well as your Tape B/U, 2 Hard-disks, a Scanner etc, meaning that you
don't need to put in separate controller cards for all these other
devices.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 4811
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 5:24p
Subj: Sbpro, Does It Have A Li Refer: NONE
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RE> Well the only guy I've seen selling Texels (not that I've really bee
RE> looking) has been asking around $A800.00.... And, when questioned, o
RE> of his staff said he had one and it "hung" all the time, requiring t
RE> PC to be re-booted!
Do you honestly think that the Texel would be on the market if it "Hung
all the time", those people were probably trying to use an Sbpro as a
controller, or something equally stupid. My drive has not hung ONCE.
I have heard that some of the panasonics lock up with Night Owl 9.
I have found that the Texel has been able to read a very marginal disk,
which some of my friends have been unable to access with their drives.
RE> This may be an isolated dealer/user instance, but it makes me glad t
RE> have the CR562B!
"May be an isolated incident"... NO, all Texel drives "Hang", in fact
they can't read CDroms at all, they are actually fancy Cdaudio players.
We know you love your Creative drive, you haven't stopped telling anyone
who will listen :-), but there are other drives out there used by other
people that are equally good, and in many cases faster/better,
especially in regards to seek time. The world does not revolve around
Panasonic drives and Soundblasters, there are many of us out there doing
it much better.
Cheers
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From: PAUL ROLFE Number: 4812
To: ANDREW LARMOUR Date: 10/06/93 2:16p
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AL> Hi Don,
AL> I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here in
AL> Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on
AL> two CD-ROM's but he wasnt sure of the price since they
AL> hadnt had much call for it..."
AL> .
AL> Personally, I rekon it would be a fantastic reference
AL> to have on my desk at home...
EMFBI.
I don't spose he told you, or do you know where I can source the Britanica
from? I have been looking for it for a client for a while now, and nobody
knows where to get it from
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From: PAUL ROLFE Number: 4813
To: STEVE GOYER Date: 10/06/93 2:23p
Subj: Oem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG> Can someone tell me what OEM is (or stands for)?
Original Equipment Manufacturer.
Usually refers to software sold to PC manafacturers to change to their own
specifications (eg. Ms-Dos, Windows etc.) It also does occur with some
hardware (ie. Panasonic CD-Roms for Soundblaster CD kits)
Regards
Paul
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4814
To: CROSSED WIRES FILE PATROL Date: 10/05/93 9:05a
Subj: New Files Available Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Crossed, In a message on <Oct 03>, you said :
CWFP> Today, Sunday 03-10-93, Crossed Wires BBS (809:919/1)
CWFP> received the following files.
CWFP> -----------------------------------------------------
CWFP> PRIVATE.ZIP 1,403 PRIVNEW.ZIP 1,383
CWFP> ------------------------
CWFP> -----------------------------------------------------
CWFP> 2,786 bytes in 2 file(s)
Big Deal !! and you had to tell the world this shattering news.
CWFP> Total of 2,786 in 2 file(s)
WOW !!
CWFP> -!- RA 2.01+/IM 2.23/DV 2.42
CWFP> ! Origin: Crossed Wires BBS, Dudley NC, U.S.A.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Try Chkdisk it might fix th......Oops ! Sorry thats for cross-linked files not
cross-wired links.
Laurie
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From: MARK SILVER Number: 4815
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 8:51a
Subj: Swap MS Works Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To one and all.....
I have a CD-ROM version of MS Works (incs a word processor with MS Draw,
spreadsheet, charting and database facilities). It came with the Sound
Galaxy multimedia upgrade kit. I already use other programs and I have no
need for this CD. It's in "as new" condition.
I would also consider swapping the Macromedia Action! 2.0 CD that came with
the same kit (depending on the offer).
Would any one be interested in swapping the CDs for some games (or something
else)? I am open to suggestions. I already have encarta, battle chess, COREL
CDs, The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopaedia and World Atlas.
Feel free to make and offer. Contact me here or at my CompuServe address.
Regards,
Mark Silver.
CompuServe ID 100237,2232
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From: MARK SILVER Number: 4816
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 10/05/93 9:08a
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 10-01-93, Terri Satchell wrote to Quinn Larkin: *****>>
>* In a message originally to Adrian Salas, Quinn Larkin said:
> > >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
> > >mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
>
>PLEASE add me to you list also
Mail to:
Mark Silver
C/- Bundaberg News-Mail
22-24 Targo Street
BUNDABERG QLD 4670
AUSTRALIA
Regards,
Mark Silver.
CompuServe ID 100237,2232
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4817
To: BEN SHIELDS Date: 10/08/93 2:59a
Subj: Multi Session? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All on 10-03-93, Ben Shields said:
BS>Hi ALL,
BS> this will probably sound like a dumb question and has also
BS>probably been answered before but could someone tell me what
BS>multisession means and if it is worth having it on a CD-rom drive as
BS>I
Multi Session means the CD-ROM is capable of reading more than one set of
Kodak photo images stored on the one CD. If you us the same CD to record
two different films worth of pictures at different times, then a single
session drive will only be able to read the first set of images.
BS>am considering buying a CD-rom and want a cheap one (Huh).
BS> The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems and its
BS>description goes like this :
BS> CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD,
BS>Multisession
BS> 350 ms access
BS> $399.95
Depends what you really need, If you are really only interested in the
large capacity and speed is not an issue then you can get a cheap slow 150
kb/sec 350 msec drive, like the Panasonic CD522b with controller for $390
from me. But for only a few dollars more you can buy the current state of
the art (for the average home user anyway) CR562b with controller. This
drive is twice as fast (300 kb/sec data transfer rate, 320 msec access
time, multi-spin, multi session) and much more capable.
BS> Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I wan't teh
BS>CD-Rom only for the GREAT file capacity ! and I only have a Thunder
BS>Board sound card (NOt looking to upgrade either, Well atleast until
BS>GUS
BS>drops in price anyway!)
BS> I know I am asking alot but I know Little on CD-Rom technolgy
BS>and would be evergratefull!
BS> Thanking you In advance ! BYeager.
Just call me FREE on (008) 811190 for more info.
Steve Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008) 811 190, Fax (06) 291 4591
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From: BRENTON VETTORETTI Number: 4818
To: PETER LANE-COLLETT Date: 10/08/93 1:40a
Subj: Cd Jewel Case Insert Prog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Peter,
PL> Anyone here in OZ have that Windows program for printing the paper
> inserts for CD cases?
Yep! It's called Micrografx Designer. You could also use a few other
programs to do the same thing. One that springs to mind immediately
is Corel Draw. If you were really desperate you could use Write or
Paintbrush <yetch>. The other special tool you will need is called a
Stanley Knife, or you could substitute an Xacto knife for this one.
Sometimes, the obvious ain't so obvious hu! :)
Regards, Brenton
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From: MATT CHAPMAN Number: 4819
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/07/93 9:24a
Subj: Unknown NightowlCD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF>I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says
>Night Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an
>imitation, or just a mistake?
>The CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
My 6 & 7 have "Night Owl's", 8 has "Night Owl" - but to tell you the truth I
couldn't give a hoot. (I apologise for the bad humour in advance).
Regards Matt.
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From: THEO VAN DEN BERG Number: 4820
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 8:10a
Subj: Australian Cd Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there everyone,
I would like any info on the cheapest cd rom drives or and sb16 cards or kits
sold in AUSTRALIA as I want to buy a multi-spin cd drive and an sb16, I would
also like to know whether the drive will run faster of an at bus card than a
sb16 card?
The going rate for a laserBaud photo cd compati, 300300kbps, 320 msec
access drive is $400 and An SB16 is $320, Can anybody do better?
Regards.
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From: LEW MURRAY Number: 4821
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/08/93 6:16a
Subj: Mitsumi Cd Rom Drive; So Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD>Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
SD> l8r,
SD> Scott
I'm trying to set mine up for OS/2 2.1. Where did you get the drivers?
Lew
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From: LEW MURRAY Number: 4822
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/08/93 6:25a
Subj: Mitsumi Lu005s Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD>For one thing, the driver you FREQed was the beta to the release of the Germ
SD>driver.. the release version works fine with OS/2 2.1 and is not limited by
SD>date.
SD> l8r,
SD> Scott
Where can I get the release version?
Lew
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From: DAVE RYDER Number: 4823
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 12:46a
Subj: Mayo Clinic & OS/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone had any experience running Mayo Clinic Family Health Book,
Interactive Edition, under a WinOS/2 Session?
This recently purchased program has caused my first GPF. More
specifically, the program will go through the install, and once
selected to run, the opening background screen will appear and the
GPF will occur. It never reached the point of displaying the title.
I find this odd considering that several other MPC cd-rom discs,
including: Microsoft Musical Instruments, San Diego Zoo - Animals,
and Groliers Multimedia Encyclopedia, all work fine under the same
setup.
I have tested the cd on another machine running Windows 3.1, with
similar hardware, and it does work, so the cd itself does not appear
to be defective.
Relavent equipment includes: 16 meg. 486-33, running OS/2 2.1 with
MMPM, SB Pro Dlx, Mitsumi 005s cd drive using the Noller drivers.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
***Dave.
Entered Oct 6,93 from Mississauga, Ontario. rn.1063@rose.com
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 4824
To: CANADIAN CD-ROM BUYERS Date: 10/07/93 7:45a
Subj: ...CONTINUED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dear fellow Canadians, here's
*** Why you should buy Canadian, reason #12 ***
What happens if the CD-ROM you buy is defective, and you've bought
it from the U.S.? When this happened to me, I was lucky, because
I bought it from one of the fastest and most helpful dealers at
the time. Unfortunately, it still took 3 weeks round trip, and
customs decided that charging the G.S.T., etc. a second time would
be a good idea. :(
We offer to replace or give complete credit for any defective
CD-ROM. The round trip will not involve any extra charges,
and we can even send out your replacement BEFORE you send yours
back. That's convenience, and how Canadian service is better
for *you*.
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
P.S.
Dear U.S. Customers:
When you order from us, we ensure that you don't pay any
duties and taxes that don't apply to you - and you still get our
famous CD-ROM warranty!
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From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 4825
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 10/06/93 6:42p
Subj: Re: seventh guest proble Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoted Daniel Prince to All about Seventh guest problems on 10-02-93
06:30 <=-
DP> My Brother can't run the CDROM program "Seventh Guest"
DP> on his 486DX-33 system. He thought it was because his VGA card
DP> was too slow but he replaced his VGA card with a "Diamond
DP> Speedstar Pro" and it still does the same thing. What happens is
DP> that during the introduction numerals start appearing in the
DP> upper left corner of the screen and colored blocks appear across
DP> the screen about two thirds down from the top of the screen.
DP> After about ten seconds of this the computer locks up. If he has
DP> Qemm loaded, he gets an exception 13 error message. He says it
DP> also locks up without Qemm loaded. (He doesn't use DV.) He says
DP> that if he configures his PAS to emulate the "Adlib" card which
DP> doesn't use DMA, the program go farther before it crashes.
DP> Does anyone have any suggestions on how he can get this program
DP> to run on his machine? He has already tried changing the
DP> interrupts on his sound card and CD rom controller and running
DP> without any TSRs etc. Thank you in advance for all replies.
I believe that you have the old version. There were many bugs in the first
version. If you call the Virgin Games BBS, you can download the patch. It
will probably fix your problems. I was having sound buffer failures with my
Sound Blaster Pro and it fixed them. There are also patches out for QEMM 7
that could fix your Exception #13 errors.
TTYL!
Signed,
Virtual Humanity
... When in doubt... There's always suicide!
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 4826
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 9:06p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0 4sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Instead of putting a stupid message in this echo that says, Busty Babes 1.0
for sale to highest bidder!, I'll go ahead and say I wish to sell this
original for $125 straight out. If you are interested, please give me a
call at 808-624-1293 or leave a message here. Thanks.
... The Homeboy Shopping Network - Where Everything is For Sale!!!
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From: KERRY ARCHER Number: 4827
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 8:19p
Subj: Re: Pioneer CD ROM changer wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
Do either of the Pioneer CD ROM units come bundled with a sound card--if so,
which one, and corresponding "bundle" prices? The unit sounds interesting, but
I need a good 16bit sound card; was leaning toward either PAS or Turtle
Beach...
-Kerry
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4828
To: TIM SMITH Date: 10/06/93 10:39a
Subj: OS/2 CD ROM & Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> advertised. The 3rd-party drivers are for those that were foolish
DR> enough to buy the Mitsumi before realizing what a mistake they made.
DR> Any serious OS/2 user is going to buy a SCSI drive.
TS> HEY! I'm not Foolish, I'm just not rich enough to by a Scsi drive
TS> thats fast.
Hi Tim,
I'm not Foolish TOO, and I do have a Mitsumi CDROM LU005 running
here, under my RA 2.01+ BBS, under OS/2 2.1
If you need, I have a driver for Mitsumi under OS/2. It runs
very well on my BBS system, and I have had NO PROBLEMS with it. IT IS
NOT A DRIVER WITH EXPIRATION DATE. IT IS NOT HACKED. It has ben
downloaded from IBM BBS in Brazil.
You can FREQ it at @4:806/18(FIDONET.ORG), 300 to 14.4Kbps, 24
hours with the Magic Name OS2DRIVER or OS2MITSU.ARJ, O.K. ?
[]s Rodolfo Vaz
... Draulas BBS - +55 61 351-83-89 - 24 hours - 300 to 14400
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From: PAUL HERMANN Number: 4829
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/07/93 11:23a
Subj: Pkzip 2.04g And Texel Cd Refer: NONE
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NR>I've got a really different problem that maybe somebody has
NR>experienced before. What happens is that if I use PKZIP
NR>2.04 G to try to unzip any file on my TEXEL DM-3024
NR>internal drive, my computer does a cold boot! Anybody ever
NR>heard of this? The files
NR>can be unzipped if I copy them to the hard drive first
NR>without problems. Only when I unzip from the CD is there a
NR>problem. On older disks I can use pkunzip 1.1 or whatever
NR>the older version is, buthis is pretty unusual.
NR>I have almost cleared all config.sys commands and some of
NR>the Autoexec.bat commands to see if this solves the
NR>problem. I need some help.
NR>any suggestions? Anyone??
Wow, that sure is wierd----never heard or seen anything like it.
However since booting a clean system seems to fix the problem, The
problem is possibly with another driver and not Pkzip. One thing to try
is start adding drivers one by one and wait for the problem to arise the
you can at least know which driver is causing the problem. If you do
find out that a driver is causing the problem, first check to see if
there is an upgrade to the driver. You may also try just rearanging the
drivers in memory. (Side Note: I just got a Kensingto Expert Trackball,
ant thier mouse drive caused a cold boot when I ran my Offline mail
Program. I am now waiting for the upgraded Driver)
Another thing that may be causing the problem is a BAD Simm.... Even
though your system does a memory check during a cold boot, That test is
nothing more than a finger count and will only pick up serious errors.
Get a good analysis program(i.e. Checkit Pro, or QAPlus) and do a
detailed test on your memory. You may find that there is a parity error
at one address that is being hit in the particular combination of
programs that you are running.
Hope this helps. And Good Luck.
-Paul
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 4830
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 10/07/93 6:26p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Someone returned a message to me about the World Book Encyclopedia on CD. The
comment was that it was very poor, i.e. text only and very boring. I have
received one or two responses over the past couple of weeks and the front
runner seems to be the Groliers Multimedia Encyclopedia. Best deal for the
money, too I guess. I haven't looked long or hard enough to know what's a good
deal, but plan to do so this weekend.
If you find out anything about good or bad encyclopedias, drop me a line. I'd
appreciate it. Thanks.
Nancy
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From: ROEL SARCENO Number: 4831
To: JOHN WILKINSON Date: 10/01/93 5:10a
Subj: Hackers Chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Do
-> -> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
-> ->
-> IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
-> WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and
-> the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
Thank's John, but what I need is a file that contains some sort of a
description that I can used for the bbs. I hate typing the description
for each file.
Roel
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From: ROBERT WALKER Number: 4832
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 7:53p
Subj: SB16 ASP card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the SB16 ASP and no CD ROM, can anyone advise compatibility probs while
using a NEC Multispin using the SCSI card interface? Can it be MPC and Kodak
capable? Is it a better deal than an upgrade to the proprietary CD ROM
interface by Creative Labs. Can it run under O/S2 2.1? Thanks
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 4833
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/28/93 12:07a
Subj: FREE CREAM OF THE CROP CD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stephen Gupton wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
SG> In a msg on <Sep2614:21, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 writes:
SG> Any plans for releasing a updated version of Cream Of
SG> The Crop?
YESSS ! There will be a Christmas 93 edition available in less
than one month. There will be NO files older than April 93...
NOT even inside the archives!!! (There are a few exceptions like
the stand alone database programs that require BRUN45 and some
program that were upgraded and still use their original setup
program.) It will have automatic and instant setup for several
bbs program AND the file view and the retrieval front end program
for stand alone use will have many new options. The files will
have extended descriptions, most of which are extracted from the
File_id.diz provided by the author. In order to make the best
use of the space available on a cd the following classifications
of programs are not included: Sexual explicit (adult) material,
pictures, clip art, gifs, programming OTHER than C, Pascal and
ASM, windows icons, windows games, bbs utilities specific for a
single BBS, BBS games, macintosh and unix operating systems.
Thank you for your inquiry.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4834
To: JAY HENRY Date: 09/27/93 11:47p
Subj: AMIGA CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 25 Sep 93 Jay Henry wrote to me:
JH> CD-ROM's are normally SCSI. The CD32 uses a Sony CD-ROM with
JH> Commodore microcode technology - it IS a SCSI device. Why else would
JH> AmigaDOS 3.1, which is included with the CD32, have a SCSI_CD-ROM file
JH> system?
Thanks for the information. I think it would be a great idea if non-Amiga
owners could hook up a CD32 to their computers. Let's hope Commodore makes
it possible. (yeah right) ;-)
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 4835
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:33a
Subj: CD^32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* This message forwarded from area 'AMIGA_CDROM' (AMIGA_CDROM)
* Original message dated 24 Sep 93, from Ian Gunn
CD^32
I thought I would help clarify what kinds of expansion the CD^32
has. There are 4 places where the CD^32 can expand externally
and one internally.
Externally:
- 2 game ports - expandable to having 8 joysticks per port
- keyboard connector - serial connection and keyboard (A4000 keyboard
plugs right in)
- 180 pin connector - plug anything into it (expansion boxes, GVP's
A530 type boxes etc)
(imagine any disk drives, accelerators, memory expansion, serial,
parallel, etc could be brought out of this expansion)
Internally:
- this one is specialized, it's for CBM's MPEG board
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4836
To: ROEL SARCENO Date: 09/29/93 1:23a
Subj: HACKERS CHRONICLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi yall,
->
-> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Does
-> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
->
-> Thank's
-> Roel
->
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IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and add
the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
I run 390 and i have poke-ware 2 and i did it this Way....
FILE NAME POKE-WARE 2 (DIR) (NOX01)
PATH E:\X01
and then go into WCFILE and Add them in there......
If you need more help give me a call Voice at (908) 525-0893
Anytime..Est Time...
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4837
To: DAN POLIVY Date: 09/29/93 12:34a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does anyone have Night Owl 9 CDROM for sale? I am looking for
>> a copy.
Yes we do DAn and it's priced at $25.
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4838
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/29/93 1:50a
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
>> Is it true that the MPC-2 standard stipulates a minimum of
>> 320mS seek time??
According to our information, the drive is 320ms with a 300kps transfer
rate.
If you need further assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4839
To: MATT VOSE Date: 09/29/93 1:50a
Subj: CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Looking for a CD-ROM that will work with a 386 CPU, 2 MEG ram,
>> DOS 6.0, Windows. Not looking to spend a fortune. Will pay UPS
>> charges. Guarantee needed. -Matt-
Got a ton of them here!
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be
glad to set you up.
Boris Osadciw
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4840
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/27/93 11:56p
Subj: AMIGA CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Okay, thanks for relaying my questions to the Amiga CD-ROM echo. It is
impossible to get any Amiga conferences here in Tacoma, Washington.
Not a whole lot of support here for any alternative platforms.
Even CD-ROM on an IBM is considered to be an "alternative" platform by most.
Water on the brain, I guess, from the constant rain. ;-)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 4841
To: KEITH STEWART Date: 09/28/93 12:08a
Subj: PC OR MAC OR AMIGA VERSIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
As long as the CD-ROM drives are true SCSI, they are not "brand specific".
GIF (Graphics Interchange Format) files should work on any computer. GIFs on an
IBM are supposed to be the same format on your Mac, etc.
I use the same .GIF files on several different computer types.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 4842
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/28/93 11:17p
Subj: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have finally got 7th Guest working on my system, but....
->
-> When I play it, when people speek, their voices break up so much that
-> almost impossible to undertand them.
I have ran into that problem many times and it is always when the
customer has a Cirrus Logic Vesa Local Bus video card. After talking to
Virgin, I found that there IS a problem with Cirrus Logic VL card and a
fix is in the works but not to hold your breath! Sorry I dont have
better news for you.
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From: DON WEIR Number: 4843
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/27/93 4:13p
Subj: CD LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would appreciate a catalog of yours,
P.O. Box 696
MANLY
NSW 2095
AUSTRALIA
thanks.........
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From: DON WEIR Number: 4844
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/27/93 4:15p
Subj: CD CAT.. Refer: NONE
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Please sent a catalog to me ---
P.O. Box 696
MANLY
NSW 2095
AUSTRALIA
thanks...
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4845
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/28/93 8:20p
Subj: PRO AUDIO STUDIO 16XL Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 09-26-93 Andrew See wrote to Rowan Evans...
AS> One good thing about FM is that it offers custom sounds. Most
AS> wavetables don't because the patches are stored in ROM. The GUS
AS> however, because it stores patches on the HD, and caches them into
AS> the RAM on the card, can use custom wavetable patches. I sampled a
AS> sneeze the other day, and then Sequenced a song with it...
Well, with the Wave Blaster being a daughter card, I guess that C/L
can come up with "Son of W/B" having onboard RAM?? As I think I said
in earlier msgs, sound is, to me, a secondary consideration at the
moment....
AS> RE> The issue is I don't particularly want to use two slots, one for
AS> RE> CD-ROM control and the other for sound!
AS>
AS> How many have you got? How many do you need? I have seen some
AS> motherboards with 6 slots, here it *may* be an issue. Mine has 8, and
AS> most of the newer VLB jobs have 8ISA + 2VLB slots. What on earth are
AS> you gona put in 10 slots?
Well, I've got 8 on my M/b....
1. SVGA
2. Network
3. IDE/FDD card
4. I/O card
5. SB 16 ASP (& CD-ROM!)..
6. Tape B/u card
7. modem
8. bus mouse
The IDE/FDD is separate to the I/O as the original M/b had timing problems
with serial port interrupts and I never did get a multi I/O to replace it!
(gives 1 free!)....
AS> Also, how many Drives can you daisy chain off the SB? 3 isn't it?
Max of four.... But if you have a SCSI controller with 2 x HDD and tape
backup, then you can only install 4 SCSI CD-ROM drives too!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4846
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/28/93 8:29p
Subj: DRIVERS Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 09-25-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> RE> Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle
DM> RE> card similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and
DM> RE> source a kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
DM>
DM> Mention that a "kit" includes a paddle card to Creative and they will
DM> then swear up and down and all around that here on this side of the
DM> pond all their CD Roms are packaged to be only used with the SB's, and
DM> there are no paddle cards to be found. Also, the earlier drivers on
DM> the BBS made reference to the 562b/563, but the later updates now only
DM> mention the 563s. So I guess the marketing department has a little say
DM> in what goes on.
Yeah, well the silly b*ggers let a PICTURE of an OMNI kit loose in a
national newspaper ("The Australian") but didn't mention the kit! If I
wasn't so busy at work I'd go chase one!
Interesting you saying that later drivers only mention the CR563... I
managed (Compuserve) to get SBCD.SYS 4.11 which has a crude encryption
on the device name that it expects back (CR-563XXXX). Maybe C/L are
going to go down the road to ruin that so many others have trod? (If
you didn't buy it from us, we won't let you have the drivers!)...
BTW, the drivers on the local C/L BBS (CR562.ZIP) disappeared after a
few days on the BBS download list!
DM> Also, I have just been playing with the updated SB16 drivers which
DM> now allow dos apps to share the sound resources with windows, but I
DM> have to say that the update is more that a wee bit of a pain to
DM> install (files copy to dir type) and the doc, well, sparse is the
DM> word that comes to mind.
Installing these drivers is on my "to-do" list.... Maybe sometime
before the Sydney Olympics??? <g>
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4847
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/28/93 8:30p
Subj: HEALTH & SAFETY CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-24-93 Chris Moore wrote to Rowan Evans...
CM> Hi Rowan
CM>
CM> RE> Snail Mail address is coming via netmail....
CM>
CM> Got it. I'm putting a package in the mail today, including
CM> CDSPEED.ZIP, as well as text information and diskette-based
CM> demos of our CD-ROMs.
Thanx mate, I'll let you know when they arrive!
Cheers!
o
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CM> We're starting to get out of the beer season and heading toward irish
CM> coffee season. The trees are starting to change (i.e. the colour of
CM> the leaves). We had our first "frost warning" last night. It was 2
CM> degrees C when I got up this morning :( . About 17 and sunny now
CM> though. I haven't hauled out the winter clothes yet, but unfortunately,
CM> it won't be long!
I may break out the Swimming costume on the weekend!
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4848
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:33p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > "What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
BF> > companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics
BF> > type connector?".
BF>
BF> > The Adaptec techo's answer was -
BF>
BF> > "Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
BF>
BF> It's all the fault of the Macintosh anyway - too bad more folks don't
BF> use THAT defacto standard instead of inventing their own pinouts....
Well, Adaptec was sticking with the 50 pin connection via centronics
type plug to supply all pins (separate grounds, etc) and this is the
standard connector for SCSI on some minis....
As for Macs & SCSI..... Phooey!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4849
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:37p
Subj: PANASONIC 562B + SB MONO Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
BF> > my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
BF> > set of speakers that will cope!
BF>
BF> Try running the audio output into a good preamp then into a
BF> good Carver amp and feed that into a pair of Infinity QRS or
BF> QLS speakers - THAT should handle your "loud" requirement easily!
BF>
BF> I've seen a couple of bands that used a pair of bridged Crown M600 (2
BF> KILOwatts) amps feeding a pair of Infinity QLS for their STAGE
BF> amp/speaker system....
This sounds good.... Pity that it costs the GNP of a small country to
buy this type of gear....
The thing is that most small speaker systems that say they'll handle the
4 watts or so out of an SB or PAS really won't when you wind the volume
up. I'm sorry I sold a 15W set of DAHW (yes, that is how it was written on
the box) amplified speakers when I left PNG... They would've been *IDEAL*
(and they only cost me 40 bucks!)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4850
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 8:38p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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Hi Again, Again, Brice!
On 09-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > There are a lot of people with caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear
BF> > to be insecure enough to have to join in to beat on one guy who says
BF> > *NOT!*....
BF>
BF> Two guys, not just one....
Nice to see we agree on something!
;^)
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4851
To: DAVID HO Date: 09/28/93 8:39p
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-25-93 David Ho wrote to Rowan Evans...
DH> 1cfvg4bhnjx,cn ,.../ nb /l
DH> hdfsgjsghklsdhjfg trrj4ut63p68uop4360436iterw
DH> hjkklfgglkhgfgklhj
I take it this is a personal message, so you have encrypted it!
Just advise me of the key and I'll answer your question on CD-ROMs!
(Or was it off-topic and that's why its encrypted!)... <g>
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4852
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 9:07p
Subj: T7G HELP Refer: NONE
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Hi Bob!
On 09-25-93 Bob Jackson wrote to Debbie Marantz...
BJ> DM> the market give impressive win bench marks but really fall short
BJ> DM> when used on a dos applications (especially the S3s).
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ> This is NOT entirely accurate! Call Steve Gibson's BBS (714) 362-8848
BJ> and download his video benchmark results. You'll find that the S3 '805
BJ> blew away everybody in DOS text handling. I use one for Windows and
BJ> DOS both and have no complaints. <EOT>
I won't argue, I'll just say that T7G notes that for S3 based cards
it'll only use MCGA mode.... That one note alone made me decide on an
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro instead of the Diamond Stealth Pro... Later
S3 cards are better than the initial batch, but I have bolted down
results (PC Labs BEnch V7.0) that shows that the S3 cards I have tested
(incl. an 805) are slower than the Cirrus Logic (5624) and ATI (68800)
windows accelerators in doing DOS...
You're happy with your S3, I'm in love with my 68800.... Have you tried
T7G on your system???
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4853
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:10p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-24-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Kevin Martin...
CD> Oh, I know who they are OK. The reason I found out they were no longer
CD> in the business was due to my calling the Panasonic USA headquarters in
CD> New Jersey to request literature. Today I confirmed what I was told on
CD> Tuesday: Matsushita will no longer manufacture CD-ROM drives for sale
CD> under the Panasonic brand name. They will only be manufacturing drives
CD> under OEM contract for *other* companies. The Panasonic CD-ROM brand
CD> is dead. Remaining units in the market are leftovers or are filtering in
CD> from Singapore.
I'm glad I bought mine from a Panasonic OEM here in Australia then!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4854
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/28/93 9:16p
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Hi Bob!
On 09-21-93 Bob Hall wrote to Rowan Evans...
BH> RE> Sunny Sydney.......
BH>
BH> Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of
BH> Vegamite, a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of
BH> Billy Tea, and perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F.
BH> If my hands got dirty, I could use that wonderful Sard soap to
BH> wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for the land of enchantment.....
Ah, a man that sees the beauty of Australia.... When do you migrate??
Seeing as how FICDROM is still on the backbone, you can still moderate
it from Zone 3! <g>
BTW, we tend to drink Tooheys in Sydney... Its only those woosses from
north of the Tweed that drink fourex (rotten sods won our football
championship AGAIN! - Will the Toronto Blue Jays do it again in the
world series??)
BH> BOB
BH> :-)
BH> Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
This is the stuff dreams are made of! I wont tell if you don't! <g>...
Cheers & Beers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4855
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/28/93 9:18p
Subj: PANASONIC CR-523B Refer: NONE
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Hi Eric!
On 09-21-93 Eric Eskam wrote to Rowan Evans...
EE> RE> OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
EE>
EE> Bless you. Any kind of shareware/game/sound/graphics etc.
EE> you were looking for out of the States? Anything non-computer
EE> related (I live right next to Las Vegas)?
How about a couple of showgirls? <g>.....
Seriously, I see a reference later in the echo to a shareware program
that runs under Windows and allows you to print CD-ROM jewel case
inserts... It doesn't seem to have migrated here yet... If you could
find a copy I'd be grateful!....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4856
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/28/93 9:20p
Subj: Q'S ON THESE NEW PANASON Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-21-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans...
BF> > The only differences listed between the CR562B and the CR503 are :-
BF>
BF> What is the DTR on the CR503 (not the Max rate, the CONTINUOUS rate)?
300Kbps. Poe Lim says he has seen spex for a CR533 (caddy drive) that
goes to 330Kbps...
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS. Reply to your PS in FIHDCONF.... I'd love to read Damia's Children,
but will have to wait until it comes out in paperback... $A35.00 is
a bit much.... BTW have you met the great lady?? I had the privelege
when she was in Australia a few years ago....
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4857
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/28/93 9:24p
Subj: CD'S IN THE BACKGROU Refer: NONE
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Hi Ron!
On 09-20-93 Ron Findling wrote to Rowan Evans...
RF> > There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I
RF> > believe) that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other
RF> > things in DOS
RF> > while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
RF> > while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
RF> > DOS......
RF>
RF> Unless you've got *great* hardware, though, it'll be quite jumpy when
RF> doing things like disk access.
RF>
RF> One great advantage of OS/2 not many people know about is how it can
RF> multi-thread DOS apps. The INT_DURING_IO setting allows for sound
RF> card interrupts to still be serviced during disk accesses, something
RF> regular DOS is incapable of.
RF>
RF> This means that even on a slower computer one can still do disk access
RF> and still get *smooth* sound for DOS apps.
You miss the point of playing an audio CD under DOS.... the player merely
"starts" the audio CD playing from a selected track and then steps out
of the way... It doesn't provide an interface between the CD-ROM and the
sound card.... The CD plays directly to the sound card using the audio
connector, not via processor and memory....
But yes, a DX2/66 *IS* great hardware!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4858
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:28p
Subj: NOT IN WINDOWS Refer: NONE
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Yo Chris!
On 09-21-93 Chris Donnegan wrote to Rowan Evans...
CD> RE> o
CD> RE> /U\
CD>
CD> Yo! Rowan! I found ya!
CD>
CD> Now that we're not in the Windows conference...I cannot use non-SCSI
CD> drives. I MUST have SCSI interface drives (it's a compulsion).
See your doctor, he can rid you of those nasty things!
CD> Drives will be accessed simultaneously, not sequentially.
OK, so that rules out the Pioneer 6 players.....
CD> I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI
CD> interface.
CD>
CD> Ideas?
Well, the most cost effective (ie cheap) double speed SCSI CD-ROMS I've
seen are the NEC CDR-55s... 350ms access, 300Kbps tfr rate.... Caddy
though (bummer....)... Look around in this echo for ads from some of the
dealers and see what deals they offer....
Brice'll hate me, but I'd recommend an Adaptec to control these suckers...
(one note - they have REVERSE parity to anything else....)....
Hope this helps!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4859
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:29p
Subj: WHERE TO BUY SB16/MM UPG Refer: NONE
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On 09-20-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> RE> If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously
TW> RE> ComputaMart)
TW> RE> in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
TW>
TW> RE> SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
TW> RE> SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
TW> RE> SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
TW>
TW> RE> The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
TW>
TW> Umm... in this list I have here, the Discovery kit only has a Sound
TW> Blaster Pro 2, while the Perfomance and Premium have Sound Blaster
TW> 16s.
There are Discovery CD8 and Discovery CD16 kits.... CD16 specifies the
SB 16.....
TW> So you mean the Discovery has a Sound Blaster 16? Wow... and I was
TW> gonna buy a Discovery pack with a SBPro 2!...
Yep! See above!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4860
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:31p
Subj: BUYING A CD-ROM PACK Refer: NONE
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Hi Tim!
On 09-22-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> RE> I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
TW> RE> where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
TW>
TW> I may be getting a CD-ROM drive _very_ soon, hopefully a SB Premium
TW> pack or Discovery. Anyway, I believe I saw a pair of Labtec speakers at
TW> Pacific Microlabs Doncaster, Vic. <I'm not sure if they're the ones
TW> you want>. Ask Pacific Microlab to see if they have any. Personally, I
TW> prefer my own choice of Uniway speakers, though they cost more.
Thanx.... I'll call them!
I didn't mind some Taiwanese Unitone speakers... picked them up in
PNG cheap, but haven't seen a source for them here... (Blew one
away with a plug pack! 8^(....)
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4861
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:34p
Subj: Q'S ON THESE NEW PANASON Refer: NONE
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On 09-23-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW> Is the CR562B better or worse than the CR563? I believe the 563 is
TW> included with the Creative Labs multimedia kits? At some places they
TW> put a 562(b) in place of a 563, and sell it for about $120 cheaper,
TW> so I imagine the 563 is better???
Same drive, different source (CR563 is C/L OEM model #)....
TW> RE> Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray
TW> RE> loading SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy
TW> RE> of the spex here and there are only minor differences between
TW> RE> the two....
TW>
TW> Hmm.. and so the 563 is 300KB/s, 350ms access but _not_ SCSI at all?
TW> So it seems that a 503 (never heard of that version b4) is bettre than
TW> a 562B and a 563?
I haven't actually used a CR503 (released around Christmastime), but all
my current benchmarks on SCSI CD-ROM drives have them as SLOWER than the
CR562b/CR563....
TW> Geez, all these numbers are *really* confusing to me! (and I don't
TW> even have a CD-ROM drive yet!):~>
Cheer up! It gets worse when you *DO* have one!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4862
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/28/93 9:39p
Subj: CL SBPRO16/CD-ROM COMBO Refer: NONE
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On 09-22-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Rowan Evans...
TW>
TW> RE> Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is
TW> RE> also a double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost
TW> RE> as much for the PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the
TW> RE> entire CL kit and, as its SCSI, its not as fast.... The
TW> RE> PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
TW> RE> doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in
TW> RE> T7G), but as you say, it costs more for less.....
TW>
TW> Hmm.... the PAS16 kit is not fast, and costs more for less? I was
TW> looking through a paper, and found PAS16, Philips CD-ROM (not
TW> NEC CDR) photo-cd ready (but I don't know about double-speed), Labtec
TW> speakers and 5 CDs including Comptons MPC encyclopedia for $790, which
TW> seems quite good! I'm seriously considering this kit after finding out
TW> more about the drive. (has to be double-speed!:)
The Philips drive is only single speed.... PC world had a "review" of
one a few months ago..... And the PAS16 in this kit is *NOT* the SCSI
PAS16 so you can't update just the CD-ROM drive (unless someone markets
a SONY AT-bus double speed drive)....
I had a PAS16/SONY CDU-31A... I was happy with the intro it gave me to
CD-ROMs, etc.... I was happier to sell it and buy another SB16 ASP/CR562B!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4863
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/28/93 9:41p
Subj: PANASONIC CD DRIVE Refer: NONE
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Hi Tom!
On 09-22-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> RE> Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
TB> RE> Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
TB> RE> the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
TB> RE> the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
TB>
TB> it says that is supports SCD-521C/SCD-531C. From this I assume it
TB> doesn't support the CR-562B/CR563 drives. It's 11841 bytes uncompressed.
And you're using it with a CR562b?? RUN, don't walk, to Compuserve and
download the latest SBCD.SYS Version 4.11..... Its 13,000 odd bytes
when uncompressed!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4864
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/28/93 9:45p
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
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Hi Boris!
On 09-23-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Rowan Evans...
BO> BO>> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> BO>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> BO>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
BO> >> ^^^
BO> >> Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive
BO> >> say 320ms in double speed mode?? <g>
BO>
BO> Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of me....one say's
BO> 340ms average access time, while the other say's 320ms average access
BO> time.
I thought I'd seen you advertise this drive at 320ms, So I thought I'd
slip this one in to see if you were awake! <g>
BO> Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both unit's, I
BO> pulled the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best quess would be to split
BO> the diffrence and say thier 330ms average access time.....grin -:)
BO>
BO> Have no idea as to why one say's one thing and the other states
BO> something else, I didn't print the books.....grin -:)
Yeah, well don't freak if you read a CR563 manual from C/L.... their spex
on access times are stuffed up but good! They list the double speed access
at 450ms and the single speed access at 350ms.... Its actually the other
way around!
Cheers!
o
/U\
PS I'm breathlessly awaiting your 0014 service! <g>
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 4865
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/28/93 6:31p
Subj: CD-ROM ANALYZOR Refer: NONE
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................
SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
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Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0
PR1 = PIER1 PR2 = PIER2 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1 SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2 SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE MON = MONSTER DISC
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
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>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
PR1 PR2 NO7 NO8 SS1 SS2 MON SC2 SV1 CDP SWO
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
............ etc etc
Hi Mike,
A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of duplicates
between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to as "CD-ROM DUPLIATE
ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of this - do you know any BBS
(preferable v32bis) which has it online, and the file name? Better still, do
you know if it is on any shareware CD-ROMs? (I have Night Owl 7&9, Pier 1&2,
So Much Shareware 2&3, Software Vault II&Gold, Monster Disc II, Shareware
Studio II)
Thanks, much appreciated.
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 4866
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/28/93 7:53a
Subj: CADDY BULLSH*T Refer: NONE
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-=> and Tony Stott was heard mumbling to Wayne Majors <=-
TS> Wayne, you missed my point; I care about caddies (I have about 30 of
TS> 'em myself), but one or two people here are doing the "King Arthur on
TS> the Crusades" ego trip, whereby anyone who doesn't agree with them is
TS> "an infidel" who should be put to the sword.. My plea was for a big
TS> reduction in the emotion, because it really isn't such a big issue.
"Oh Great God of the Caddy
I Implore Thee
What Doust Thou Recommend
To Caddy or Not to Caddy
Whence Came The Question ? "
... my tongue is firmly wedged in cheek ...
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 4867
To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 09/27/93 1:57p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-N Refer: NONE
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Hi there,
SG> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG> to remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw
SG> Which BB do you have?
The first one, I think it was called Vol I, #3. I guess that means the
first issue and the 3rd press run or something?
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 4868
To: TOMCAT Date: 09/28/93 1:58a
Subj: ADD Refer: NONE
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TOMCAT control message = ADD
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From: MARCUS LEE Number: 4869
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 8:37p
Subj: 7TH GUEST 100% Refer: NONE
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Just for anyone who might be interested to know,
I got 100% for video under 7th Guest using an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb vram
EISA version.... about the only card I know (and own!) which isnt VLB to score
100%...
Regards.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4870
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: OKLAHOMA BBS BUST Refer: NONE
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TD>Critics also say police over reached in grabbing Davis' entire system,
TD>shutting down his pay-for-play computer service, because of four CDs.
Go get 'em Tony! I know you will prevail in this blatant injustice,
just hang in there!
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4871
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
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| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
NIGHT OWL 10 * What more can be said? Always the top-rated s/w CD......$35
CD OS/2BOX * The newest from Damar. 300+mb of EXCLUSIVELY OS2 2.x s/w!.$29
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 4872
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 12:08a
Subj: A FEW CD TITLES . . . . . Refer: NONE
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7th Guest.....................39.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00
Beauty and the Beast..........32.50 Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50 Night Owl 10.0 (Pre-orders)...35.00
Bible Library.................28.50 Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........55.00
CD Winbox.....................25.50 Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
C User's Group Library........31.00 OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00 PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: TOM NIELAND Number: 4873
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:58a
Subj: TEAC CD ROM Refer: NONE
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I have a teac cd rom that Im having trouble setting up for use in os2
its not supported and I would like to have some help installing it with os2
my system is a 486dx33 vlb with a pas 16 scsi interface and cd-50 teac cdrom
help please thanks in advance
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From: MARK GLENN Number: 4874
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/29/93 1:18p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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Hello Sam!
In a message to All <09/27/93> Sam Beckwith wrote:
SB> DFW Discount Electronics 09/27/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
SB> BBS: 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-0331
SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.00
SB> NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.00
SB> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.00
SB> SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready) 4 CD combo..............$45.00
SB> SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready)........................$25.00
SB> SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93,BBS Ready)FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS..$24.00
Can you send me more info on what is on these nightowl v10?
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 4875
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 09/25/93 11:27p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO III Refer: NONE
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VS> **** Shareware Studio III in stock! Just $39 Canadian! ****
VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is proud to be a part of bringing you
VS> this excellent collection of 5100+ files (630+ Meg)... Many of the
Hi vince, I'm interested in getting a catalog. I always think that it is
better to support the in Canada groups. If you are a rep of this company
please forward me the BBS. This is my address
Mike Munnelly
Box 21, Site B
Verona, Ontario
K0H 2W0
Thanks Much.
Mike
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From: CLARKE ULMER Number: 4876
To: ALL Date: 09/28/93 12:40p
Subj: ACTOR AND ACTRESS CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September
22, 1993
FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
The Movie BBS/Clarke Ulmer Jr.
P.O. Box 1793 Dept PR1 Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
Data: (718) 939-5462
Voice: (718) 321-3551
PREMIERE OF ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO. 1
After breaking new ground in the Bulletin Board System world four years
ago
this month, The Movie BBS now releases the first in a series of Actor
and
Actress CD-ROMs.
Having earned a reputation for high quality computer graphics, The Movie
BBS
now presents a collection of original photos of your favorite actresses
and
actors. Photos include publicity, candid, portrait, "cheesecake" and
"beefcake" poses. You'll see your favorite celebs as never before from
early in their careers to the present.
300 PHOTOS
The disc contains a total of 300 digital reproductions of actual
photographs
in 256 color GIF file format. Some of the celebrities include:
Adrienne Barbeau, Clint Eastwood, Sybil Danning, Sean Connery, Harrison
Ford,
Michael Douglas, Joan Collins, Melanie Griffith, Apollonia, Robert
Mitchum,
Cary Grant, Humphrey Bogart, Gary Cooper, Rock Hudson, Mark Hamill,
William
Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Raquel Welch, Linda Hamilton, Jenny Agutter,
Nastassja
Kinski, Deidre Hall, Pam Grier, Tony Randall, Henry Fonda, John Wayne,
Jodie
Foster, Michael Caine, Tina Louise, Marta Kristen, Angela Cartwright,
Kristy
Swanson, Christian Slater, Marilyn Monroe, Sylvester Stallone, Caroline
Munro,
Robert Redford, Elizabeth Taylor, Farrah Fawcett and many, many more!
PHOTO QUALITY
All images are photo quality and viewable on a variety of systems (DOS,
MAC,
etc.). The novelty of these images will appeal to collectors and movie
fans!
REQUIREMENTS
System requirements for viewing images are a CD-ROM drive, CD-ROM
driver software and a VGA or higher display. A customized interface for
DOS
and Windows is included as well as Shareware viewers for DOS, MAC, etc.
DEALERS
Dealers/Vendors/Distributors, there is an AUTO-DISPLAY function built-in
that
continuously displays images. This can be used for in-store/window
setups to
attract customers.
ACTOR AND ACTRESS COLLECTION VOLUME 1, NO.1 is available directly from
The Movie BBS for $39.95 (US Funds), add $3.00 for shipping and
handling.
Make checks or money orders to:
Clarke Ulmer/The Movie BBS
P.O. Box 1793 Dept PR1 Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134, USA
The Movie BBS can also be contacted on the following online services:
CompuServe as 76605,2173, DELPHI as THEMOVIEBBS, America Online as
ClarkeU,
GEnie as C.ULMER1 and Prodigy as CLARKE ULMER
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From: CR HAMILTON Number: 4877
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 4:37p
Subj: PC DOS 6.1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I have a Panasonic 501B which has been working flawlessly on the bbs with MSDOS
6.0. Just got PC DOS 6.1, and find that it doesn't have a MSCDEX file. Anyone
using this "supposedly" better dos with a cdrom? (And if so, how?)
CR
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 4878
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/27/93 10:42a
Subj: CANADIAN SUPPLIER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eugene Fedorowich wrote in a message to All:
EF> I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
EF> I have noticed quite a few American vendors but I think it
EF> may be easier to deal with Canadian suppliers due to customs
EF> etc.
EF> Please leave me mail here as to address etc.
Me too. But forget about the "adult" CDs; in those I have no interest. Cheers,
Pam
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 4879
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/27/93 10:44a
Subj: CD SOFTWARE REVIEWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Eugene Fedorowich wrote in a message to All:
EF> I like the idea of software reviews of CD Software!!
So do I. How about occasional posts from anyone who has a CD s/he particularly
likes, telling us about it and why they like it? Most of the titles I see here
for sale are meaningless to me, and catalogues don't seem to say much; anyway
the motive is to sell it whether you like it or not. Does anyone know anything
about Delorme's Global Explorer, specifically?
Cheers,
Pam
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 4880
To: JEFF NEWMAN Date: 09/29/93 10:28a
Subj: L.A. STRIPPERS CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry about the date....I should have said 1993....OPPS!!!
As far as interactive:
You can pick a girl to watch (with your mouse.)
Pick a song and a girl.
Watch the whole thing.
For full-motion video that's about state of the art!!
It's not a game...It's adult entertainment!
Thanks,
Neil Bergman
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4881
To: EUGENE FEDOROWICH Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: CANADIAN SUPPLIER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I am looking for canadian suppliers of CD software products.
Call JANA Publishing 1-800-363-2083, located in Canada.
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 4882
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 9:03p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Any Many MANY more Titles...
How about a price on Night Owls 10?
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From: JOHN WILKINSON Number: 4883
To: JOHN WILKINSON Date: 09/29/93 11:05a
Subj: HACKERS CHRONICLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> -> Hi yall,
-> ->
-> -> I'm planning to buy Hackers Chronicles but it's not bbs ready. Do
-> -> anybody have FILES.BBS or something for this CD?
-> ->
-> -> Thank's
-> -> Roel
-> ->
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-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
->
-> IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
-> WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and
-> the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
->
-> I run 390 and i have poke-ware 2 and i did it this Way....
->
->
-> FILE NAME POKE-WARE 2 (DIR) (NOX01)
-> PATH E:\X01
->
-> and then go into WCFILE and Add them in there......
->
-> If you need more help give me a call Voice at (908) 525-0893
-> Anytime..Est Time...
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From: DEAN BUXTON Number: 4884
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 5:56p
Subj: CD CAPACITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I recently purchased two CD drives from Radio Shack CDR-1000's
According to the specs on the drive the capacity is 552 Meg.
Most of the newer CD's coming out these days are averaging
about 600-650 Meg. Will these drives be able to read these
larger disks or did I waste my money?
I suppose I could return the drives but because I have not yet
purchased and CD's yet I'd like to know before-hand.
Thanks in advance for a reply.
Dean
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From: MARK RICHARDSON Number: 4885
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 6:02p
Subj: WC2 DELUXE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe on CD-ROM for a good price.
Is anyone selling it? Thanks.
Mark
>> Mark
... It's Ensign Pillsbury, Jim. He's bread.
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From: JR PEPPERGRASS Number: 4886
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/26/93 9:53a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
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I sure will Don......how about advertising our BBs here in South Bend,
Indiana....Home of Notre Dame Football. Max Baud rate of 14.4, 5 lines and big
Amiga File areas. Our telephone number is 219-288-8483 Peppergrass Express.
-JR Peppergrass
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From: JOHN DAGES Number: 4887
To: ALL Date: 09/26/93 7:41p
Subj: DAY OF THE TENTACLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HELLO! I bought an excellent CD game called the Day Of The Tentacle, it's an
incredible game but rather short. Over 100,000
thousand pages of digitized speech. Give me a call, (419) 991-2761
thanks!
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4888
To: ALL USERS Date: 09/24/93 12:36a
Subj: WINDOWS OR DOS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is it better to run a game, for example King's Quest VI, in dos or
windows, if you are wanting the best sound and graphics?
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4889
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/25/93 10:32p
Subj: CD FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> CS >The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
RR> Send me your address to send the payment
Already sold, thanks anyway.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 4890
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/25/93 10:33p
Subj: CD FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
PR> Will take it! Need address! 512-939-9822
PR> Pat
Already sold. Thanks anyway.
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 4891
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/29/93 9:52p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, this is.... uh... different. There must be two people with the same name
on this BBS. I keep reading mail about CD-ROMs and other neato stuff that I
never wrote... veddy intelesting...
RLP
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 4892
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/28/93 7:11a
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> On 23 Sep 93 15:05:00, I heard Stewart Rothman shout to All:
>SR> I'm interested in several CD titles I saw advertised in CRAZY BOB'S
Bob's Free Spirit
>SR> Complete Home and Office Legal Guide.......$15.00 $12.00
>SR> Guiness Disc of Records.................... 19.00 15.00
>SR> USA Wars - Korea........................... 39.00 29.00
>SR> Mayo Clinic................................ 39.00 19.00
>SR> Street Atlas USA........................... 99.00 89.00
>SR> CD Caddies, 10 @$5.50...................... 55.00 50.00
>
>KP> See second column.....How's That for Saving ???
>KP> Their number is 1-800-638-5757 They do except Visa/Mastercharge
Thanx for your answer, but I got an answer and ordered them from Boris for
$198.00 and he does take Visa-MC as well. Stu
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4893
To: SCOTT CONDER Date: 09/28/93 9:58a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
lets just get the story of panasonic correct. Panasonic is still making CD-Rom
drive but not with their name on it. They are making it for OEM like Creative
Labs and so on. So don't worry if you have a Rom drive from them
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 4894
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/28/93 10:04a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can I send you my address for a catalog too. Dave Wong, 2504 S ferdinand,
Seattle, WA 98108. thanks
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4895
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:44p
Subj: 7TH GUEST? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone know any secrets to getting 7th guest to run? I don't have enough base
memory. Do you need dos6 to get it to run? By the time I load the drivers,
I'm down there in free memory. What gives? Want to get this game going, It's
my first disk I own!
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4896
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/29/93 8:49p
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I just baught a dual spin panasonic drive today.. and it was cheap.. so
what gives? am I screwed ou tof a waranty? Or what? What does this mean?
Anyone?
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4897
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:55p
Subj: TERMINATE AND CDROMS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If anyone out there uses the program "terminate" for communications, how do you
get it to place audio cd's? I've pressed alt-F10 and it comes up with
"Mscdex.exe must be installed" Where do i get this file? Why don't I have
it? Anyone?
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4898
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:21p
Subj: PANASONIC DRIVES? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can anyone quickly tell me the model numbers of the Panasonic drives? And if
possible the specs on them too? rate of transfer and access time that is..
thanx
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From: DUANE SUTTON Number: 4899
To: MARK ROEDEL Date: 09/29/93 9:12p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send a copy of your free catolog to:
Duane Sutton
115 Cherren Dale Drive
Warner Robins, GA 31088
Later,
Duane
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4900
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/28/93 11:37p
Subj: S3 (SLOW) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Before I purchased my CD Rom, my Stealth VRAM satisfied my VGA requirements.
But since then I have upgraded to a TSENG ET4000/W32 LB VGA adapter. Now for
the comparison, my STEALTH will do an astounding 14xx bytes per millisecond at
640*480*256 where as my ET4000/W32 will do 90xx bytes per millisecond at the
same resolution in Dos (using a program called VidSpeed). Also, the S3 based
boards also will slow considerably when measuring text vrs graphics modes,
where as the TSENG shows a solid 90xx regardless of which mode is being
accessed. Under Windows, the VRAM clocks in a 7.x Win Marks, where as the TSENG
clocks at 15.x, which is slightly faster than the newer S3 offerings. And in
real use the differences are noticable. Using AutoDesk Animator Pro Windows
Animation Player the STEALTH would really lag and you could see the data
updating to the screen, where as no such problem exists on the TSENG. True the
TSENG is LB but I have tried other VGA boards, and a PARADISE Windows
Accelerator shows the same type of constant through put as the TSENG, abeit,
slower, 39xx bytes per millisecond, text to graphics using a standard ISA
connection.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4901
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/29/93 12:09a
Subj: VIDSPEED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From what I have been reading T7G is really showing which VGA card can and
which cannot. My STEALTH was a real disappointment, where as the TESENG
ET4000/W32 easily scored 100% optimum in T7G (the card clocks in at 90xx bytes
per millisecond using vidspeed). What I find interesting is that the ATI ULTRA
PRO should have no problem as it is also a fast Dos VGA adapter, at least
according to PC mags recent article 32 Windows Accelerators. It clocked in at
7.30 Million Operations per Second, but I have not had the chance to have one
in system and do a comparison between it and the TSENG. As for through put on
the CD, mine is a whopping 150K (C31A) but with the TSENG it does seem faster
as I was loading AutoDesk Animator Pro files off their CD and there was no
noticable lag, but alas, I do see a time in the near future that I will make
the jump to a faster CD Rom. I am just waiting to see what the new IDE CD Roms
will do, and GateWay is supposed to have one in the works, so time will tell.
Now, again you have sparked my curious side, why is the Panasonic CD Roms
hooked the SBs having such good throughput numbers. 58x plus is almost that of
a Quad Speed, which the drive is supposed to not be. And from the pin out of
the AT interface in the Sbs, nothing special there either. Hmmmmm, wonder what
magical voodoo stuff is a happening or is the throughput program just skewed up
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 4902
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/29/93 10:05p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-Rom with "U.S. Code, containing the general and permanent laws
of the United States" for # 30.00 from:
Catalog SB-314
U.S. Government Printing Office
Superintendent of Documents
Box 371954
Pittsburgh, PA 15250-7954
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 4903
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/29/93 10:06p
Subj: FIREARM CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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There is a CD-Rom called Firearms Reference - Details on 600+
guns with 256 color images for $ 30.00 that I intend to buy
for my oldest son as a Christmas present.
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 4904
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/29/93 10:19a
Subj: MITSUMI AND DOS 6.0? Refer: NONE
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In a msg on <Sep2910:19, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 writes:
GP> I had one guy tell me that the Mitsumi drive has some kind of
GP> problem or special configuration required or something to run
GP> under MS-DOS 6.0. Anyone aware of this? Is he right? What's
GP> the scoop, guys?
Just use the MSCDEX.EXE that comes with DOS 6.O
-=Stephen=-
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4905
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card with
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of the
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Sounds more like the LU-002S to me.. (Which I'm running under OS/2 2.1)..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4906
To: KEVIN DONALD Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: 16-BIT SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
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KD>Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
KD>Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
I had a Gravis but traded it on a PAS-16.. The Gravis was SLOW in SB mode.. it
ate up processor cycles so bad, on a 386sx/25 w/6 megs of ram, I could NOT pla
Wing Commander unless I turned off SB support.. a problem I've never had with
any other card..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4907
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM Refer: NONE
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|SP> Hi All, |
|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy |
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO? |
DC>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
DC>Yes I do Know......
DC>No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
DC>board?
Probably to save slots used by the controller cards..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4908
To: DARIN CELINO Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
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|BF> -> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with |
|BF> |
|BF> Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people |
|BF> dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster|
|BF> card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound |
|BF> blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of |
|BF> the cd-rom drive and the interface card. |
DC>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------
DC>This is not so for the Sound Blaster.....the plain one.....unless
DC>there are some undocumented controls for them.
No in fact there is no way to control volume on the regular SB through
software.. the 2.0 may be an exception to this but I know the 1.0 and 1.5
can't..
l8r,
Scott
P.S.- The SBPro and above do however have software volume control..
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4909
To: ED BAILEY Date: 09/29/93 4:46p
Subj: MITSUMI LU005S DRIVE Refer: NONE
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EB> Does anyone know of a Driver for use with the Mitsumi, for use under
EB> OS2 Ver 2.1.
EB> There was a Sysop who claimed to have one and I did a File Request for
EB> it. It came from Germany and was for OS 2 Ver 2.0 and clearly said it
EB> wouldn't work with Ver 2.1, also it was a dated program, apparntly not
EB> working after a given date, which had already passed.
EB> I would appreciate the address of the commerical program out there and
EB> if possible a free/shareware release of such a driver availability.
EB> When possible I prefer to support the shareware authors.
EB> Thanks for any assistance.
For one thing, the driver you FREQed was the beta to the release of the German
driver.. the release version works fine with OS/2 2.1 and is not limited by
date.
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4910
To: HAROLD BINGHAM Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
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HB>With the Mitsumi CD-ROM model:crmc I have an 8 bit card and get bad
HB>performance with it . Can I use it on the SB16?
In a word, NO.. the SB cd-rom interface is totally different than the Mitsumi.
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4911
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM AUDIO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound.
GP>Common problem. The socket on the SoundBlaster card is wired backwards.
GP>To work around the problem, use a pin or needle to carefully lift the
GP>locking tab on each of the terminals of the cable's connector, one at a
GP>time. Swap inner-to-outer wires on each side of the connector (so
GP>signal swaps with ground on each side). You'll find that everything
GP>works great.
Are you sure he means the 4 wire audio cable? It sounds to me like he wants to
run a Y cable from the RCA ports on the CD-Rom card to the Line In port on the
SB.. To my knowledge, none of the regular SB's have a CD-In.. that was added o
the SBPro and higher..
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4912
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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>Philips should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering
BF>Could be, but that also is too late to change, 'till the "next generation"
BF>stuff gets out of the lab....
Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's) have a layer
plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed specifically to resist scratching
and stuff.. if you take descent care of the disc, the little nicks and scratch
normally won't affect it..
(If you don't take care of it, the BIG scratches ruin it..)
l8r,
Scott
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 4913
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/29/93 4:47p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SO Refer: NONE
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GM> Eric:
GM> The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
GM> older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description
GM> of the Tandy and the
GM> LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2
GM> dravers are aviable but
GM> are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a
GM> source,keep reading the
GM> echo somebody will have a source. Gil
EC>Well, frankly I don't really care if I have to pay mnoney .... getting two
EC>SCSI CDRoms is a lot more money! In reference to the card, you recommend th
EC>"LU002S" driver, not the "xxx5S" version? Well, thank you very much for tha
EC>piece of information - it will help!
I have the German os/2 drivers and they work fine on both the LU-002S and
LU-005S.. I've also heard they perform well on the new LU-005U..
l8r,
Scott
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4914
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/29/93 7:52a
Subj: MITSUMI CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
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Hello Donnie!
27 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> I have a Mutsumi drive LU005S for sell. It has about two hours of run
DR> time on it. With manual, software, controller card and drive in box. I
DR> will ship to you for $165.00 I need a double speed drive. If interested
DR> leave me a message here.
I will offer $130 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4915
To: WENDELL KENNEY Date: 09/29/93 7:05p
Subj: SIMMS/RECIVED Refer: NONE
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Hello Wendell!
Recived the simms today, thanks. I have already used some and they are great!
Thank you again, from my son!
Pat
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From: NANCY DAVIN Number: 4916
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/29/93 10:07p
Subj: WORLD BOOK ENCYCLOPEDIA/C Refer: NONE
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Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks for the advice -- I haven't seen it, I've just been extremely impressed
by World Book over the years!
Nancy
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4917
To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 09/26/93 10:33a
Subj: DOUBLE-SPIN NEEDS FOR A GAME? Refer: NONE
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MR> Can anyone out there tell me what are the advantages of a double
MR> spin drive in regards to a single spin drive when you are
MR> talking about running full-motion video that is compressed
MR> and plays back at whatever frame rate? It seems to me that
MR> it wouldn't make a difference since the compression
MR> technique allows the CD-ROM (single spin) to playback frames
MR> at a reasonable speed using a data transfer rate of 150k
MR> bytes/sec. With a 300k byte/sec drive wouldn't it still run
MR> frame rates at the same speed? What is the difference
What happens when you want to add sound? CD quality sound also uses 150
KB/sec, making it difficult to fit both video and audio in 150 KB/sec
bandwidth. Even with audio compression and/or less than CD quality, you still
need more than bandwidth, as the video uses the entire 150 KB/sec. The
alternative would be to cut video *and* audio quality, but that is less than
desirable.
Jeff
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4918
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/28/93 12:32p
Subj: MINIDISC NEWS Refer: NONE
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SM>> Hope this gives you enough info on the MiniDisc state of things,
TG> Simon, so the new Nini Disc will hold less information than the
TG> current 5 1/4 CD? What is the advantage of this? Easier to
TG> carry in a pocket?
The question is why do they promote a new format when an existing one
already has essentially all the same capabilities? The 3.5" MO units already
have rewritable and read only (ala CD) formats, and I have heard mention of the
mixed media discs.
The main advantage seems to be that Sony will have total control of the
format, instead of having to share control (and royalties) with others. Sony
collects a royalty on *every* 3.5" floppy disk and drive made, they're just
trying to establish another gold mine...
Jeff
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4919
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: DO YOU HAVE & HOW MUCH Refer: NONE
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>> I am looking to buy a copy of "The Constitutional Papers"
>> Publisher Johnson & Company, Electronic Publishers and
>> Consultants
Price - $30.00
>> I am interested in a review and price for "Video Hound
>> Multimedia"
Are you sure about this title ??
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4920
To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: DRIVES THAT READ 697 MEGS Refer: NONE
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>> I am looking for a SCSI CD-ROM drive that will read ALL of the
>> files on Storm #1. It has 697 megs on it. My Chinon 435
>> drives will not read all of the disk.
>> If you have a drive and have tested it with Storm I, please
>> tell me. (Has anyone tried it with a Texel DM 3024 or 3028?)
>> P.S. I'm also looking for the names of some good, very new
>> Adult CDs as an alternative to spending $300 - $400 on a new
>> drive.
We can help you with all of the above Brian. Interested, give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4921
To: CHRIS WISE Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: LOOKING FOR THE RES/BUSIN Refer: NONE
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>> Looking for the Prophone Residential/Business CD rom if you
>> have it (either 3 or 7 then let me know)....
Lee, we have the Business version for $25. ! Interested, give us
a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
We also carry the Phone Disk USA Residential/Business.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 4922
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 2:51a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $399.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
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From: BILL JONES Number: 4923
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/29/93 6:26p
Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE
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Glad they got to you ok Pat, don't have any more right now but I
might a a couple of weeks.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 4924
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/29/93 6:48p
Subj: CATALOGUE Refer: NONE
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-> Hello Vince. I called your company a few weeks back (voice) to
-> request a catalogue. It has not arrived, probably due to our
-> wonderful mail service...could you please try again. My address in
-> below. Thank you.
Hi Bob!
You got that right - we did a bulk mailing and had 40 catalogs
returned for "insufficient postage". The only problem was that we paid
for them, and the post office "bulk machine" was supposed to apply the
markings that indicated that. There was no way of proving that those
letters were part of the bulk mailing, so we would have had to pay for
them again. We have a new catalog coming out within 3 days, so we
decided to hold those 40 (of which you were one) until it was ready.
We're really hoping this new catalog is worth the wait.
Thanks for your patience and understanding,
Vince
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From: MIKE BLOODWORTH Number: 4925
To: MARTIN CROCKETT Date: 09/27/93 10:38p
Subj: CDROM'S Refer: NONE
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Hi Martin, have you found glitches with the new CDROM drivers & QEMM ?
I'm having trouble with the newer CDROM by Mitisu' which is somewhat faster
than the earlier ones. It's OK with MSDOS6 and the HARDWARE drivers but can
lock up the PC on odd occasions when the Software drivers are used (MSCDEX).
Also with DRDOS the MSCDEX wont work if loaded high and it a sizable file
..seems to loadhi OK with MSDOS6 & the same QEMM config.
Please forward a reply on the NETMAIL echo as I don't have the room on my hard
disk to turn this one on for my point. (3:8530/7)
Cheer's Mike!
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From: ANDREW LARMOUR Number: 4926
To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:54p
Subj: PHOTO-CD IN AUST Refer: NONE
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I work in a lab which is offering photo-cd services
F16 1 Hour Photo,
688 Glenferrie Rd
Hawthorn Vic, 3122
(03) 818-2600
and the service is available via selected Kodak Express labs at varying prices
depending on what type of transfer service you need:
Develop, print and transfer 12exp $39.95 disc incl 7 days
(E6 process & transfer) 24exp $49.95
36exp $67.95 (New price)
Standard transfer min 20 exp $2.25 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Selective transfer min 20 exp $3.00 per frame $12 for disc 7 days
Special transfer min 20 exp $5.00 per frame $12 for disc 10 days
Shoebox transfer min 65 exp $1.50 per frame disc inlc 15 days
(Introductory offer) max 100 exp
Duplicate Photo-CD min 20 exp $1.50 per image $12 for disc 7 days
-- A photo-cd will hold a maximum of approx 100 images.
-- Service times quoted are lab to lab in calender days.
-- Service times to NT and remote areas of Aust are 14 calender days for all
services.
-- Standard transfer is every exposure transfered. All exposures must be of
the same type (ie. all negs or all slides)
-- Selective transfer is selected exposures transfered, not in any
guaranteed order. All exposures must be of the same type.
-- Special transfer is selected slides or negs in a specified order.
-- Negs or slides in strips less than 3 will be mounted @ 75cents each.
-- Thermal prints up to 8"x10" are also available.
-- Photo-CD is only available on 35mm negs or slides. (at this stage)
In order to do anything other than just view these images, you will need a
fairly powerful machine, Kodak recommend a min of 386SX25, 8Mb RAM, 40Mb free
HD space (100Mb prefered), 24bit graphics card and monitor. The files
themselves are 18Mb in size at full (16Base) resolution and are compressed with
JPEG formulae to around 4.5Mb to 6Mb in size. Each image is stored a 5
different resolutions:
128x192 (Base/16) 'thumbnail'
256x384 (Base/4) Displaying multiple images on the screen 512x768
(Base) TV quality
1024x1536 (4Base) HDTV quality
2048x3072 (16Base) for printing and high quality image manipulation.
This is for the general information for anyone interested. Currently Kodak
lists the following CD-ROM drives as Photo-CD compatable (for PC systems):
- Single Session - Multi Session
Chinnon CDX435 Mitsumi CRMC LU005s(int)
Texel DM3024(int) Gen STAR 5000i(int)
Texel DM5024(ext) Sony CDU31a(int)
Toshiba TXM3301B(int) Sony CDU561
Toshiba TXM3301E1(ext) Toshiba TXM3301BSP(int)
NEC CDR-73(int) Toshiba TXM3301E1P(ext)
NEC CDR-83(ext) Toshiba TXM3401 E1P1000(int/ext)
NEC CDR-36M(ext) Pioneer DRM 604X/600(ext)
NEC CDR-37(int) Procom PiCDS(int)
NEC CDR-74(ext) Procom PxCDS(ext)
NEC CDR-84(int) Panasonic CR562
NEC CDR-25 NEC CDR-38
Sony CDU535(int) NEC CDR-74-1
Sony CDU6205(ext) NEC CDR-84-1
Sony CDU541(int) Texel DM-302X(int)
Sony CDU6211 Texel DM-502(ext)
Sony CDU7211 Texel T-3401
IBM CDROM Model 2 Texel DM-3024
Laser Magnetic CM205 Texel DM-5024
Panasonic CR-531 PLI CDROM MS
Chinnon CDX-535
Smart & Friendly PCD-700
Smart & Friendly PCD-2200
Sony CDU7305
Pioneer DRM-604X
The recommended minimum configuration to access "BASE x 16" images (the highest
resn. images stored in the .pcd file) is:
- 486 processor
- 20Mb RAM
- 25Mb free HD space
- DOS 3.3 or later
- Windows 3.0 or later
- 16.8 Million colour card (24 Bit)(Optional)
- S-VGA or higher monitor (Optional)
Its just as frightening if you're a Mac user. To access "BASE x 16" images,
the minimum recommended configuration is:
- Mac IIci processor
- 32Mb RAM
- 30Mb free HD space
- System 6.0.5 or later
The CD-ROM drives which Kodak list as being Photo-CD compatable for the Mac's
are:
- Single Session - Multi Session
Apple SC Plus (ext) Apple CD300 (int/ext)
Apple CD150 (ext) Toshiba 3301BSM30Z0 (int)
NEC CDR-73 (ext) Toshiba 3301E1m30Z0 (ext)
NEC CDR-83 (int) PLI CD-ROM MS
NEC CDR-37 (ext) NEC CDR-74-1
NEC CDR-74 (ext) NEC CDR-84-1
NEC CDR-84 (int) Toshiba XM-3301 BK Drive
Sony CDU-541 (int) Pioneer DRM-604X Minichanger
Sony CDU-6211 (ext) Sony CDU-561
Sony CDU-7211 (ext) Phillips CDD-461 Audio
Smart & Friendly PCD2200-MAC
This is by no means a complete listing, but if you know of any drive which is
single or multi session compatable and I havent listed it, please mail me....
In my opinion, the introductory offer is the way to go if you can get that many
images together. Also, if you transfer 100 images in one hit, then the disc
will only have a single session on it and will therefore be readable by all
those XA single session drives and some non-XA drives.
If you have any further questions regarding Photo-CD,
ProPhoto-CD, Photo-CD players or other related topics, please mail me....
Andrew Larmour
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To: ALL Date: 09/27/93 10:54p
Subj: PHOTO-CD IN AUST Refer: NONE
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4928
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/29/93 7:43p
Subj: CR562B CD-ROM DRIVE. Refer: NONE
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Hi Terry!
On 09-24-93 Terry Menzies wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
TM> I contacted a guy the other day in response to an magazine add
TM> for an Panasonic CD-Rom Drive for $AUS399.95
TM>
TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
TM>
TM> Panasonic 562
TM> Internal
TM> Double speed
TM> Kodak Multi Session
TM> Transfer rate=300kb/s
TM> Access time=320 ms
TM> 680-690 capacity
TM>
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
Panasonic's brochure calls it a CR562 series, their manual for the drive
calls it a CR562B.... The spex you have stated are exactly the same as
those for the CR562B, so I'd guess he's just being lazy! As to requiring
an additional card to work with the SB Pro/16/16 ASP.... that's bullsh*t...
the CR562B will attach directly to the SB Pro/16/16 ASP... What it *DOES*
require is a $A50.00 "controller" if you *DON'T* have an SB Pro/16/16 ASP!
Ask the dealer again whether it is a CR562B.....
TM> I have one of the SB V2 mono cards in my system.
Well, you'll hear multimedia sounds via the SB 2.0, but see my post to
Alan Whitemore re SB 2.0 and audio CDs!
Cheers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 4929
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/29/93 7:49p
Subj: SBPRO, DOES IT HAVE A LI Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 09-26-93 Andrew See wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
AS> RE> Plus I've benchmarked the SB Pro 2/CR562B combo to within 1% or so
AS> RE> of the speed when the CR562B is attached to the SB 16 ASP, which is
AS> RE> the fastest sound card/CD-ROM combo I've seen to date.....
AS>
AS> The newer Pioneer 6 changer has a quad speed transfer rate. 600 kb/s
Note I typed "I've seen to date".... No ones yet lent me a DRM-604X to
try. Its also a far cry from the cost of the CR562B!
AS> The Toshiba drive has a seek time of 200 ms.
Granted.... Nor have I seen a Toshiba CD-ROM drive....
AS> The panasonic drive has 300kb/s and 320-350 ms access.
True!
AS> Would you agree that both are faster than Panasonic drive?
I'll agree that these drives spec out better than the CR562B... What are
they like in the real world?
AS> There is however a faster Panasonic drive, soon to be released, it is
AS> a caddy job giving it a better seek time (280ms) and SCSI2.
AS> Still same transfer rate though.
Poe Lim suggested that the CR533 (the caddy drive) will have 330Kbps tfr
rate.... He did say, though, that he believed that it would cost
approximately the same as the Texel SCSI CD-ROM drive.... That's around
*TWICE* the price of the CR562B!
AS> Also CL are releasing a SB16 soon with a SCSI port built in.
I'll keep an eye out for it....
Cheers!
o
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 4930
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/29/93 6:35a
Subj: CD-ROM USERS GROUP Refer: NONE
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HI Tim! Thanks for your mail. I'll email you once I've got some more
groundwork in place for the club - there's been a lot of local interest, so it
looks like we'll probably be getting one underway!
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DAvid POmeroy.
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From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 4931
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/28/93 8:40a
Subj: CD-ROM CLUB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep 16, 1993>, David Pomeroy wrote to All:
DP> Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or
DP> possibly Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to
DP> set one up, as it is badly needed for us down under users.
There is already one going in Australia.
Details from
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Phone (06) 2915258, Fax (06)2914591
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From: POE LIM Number: 4932
To: ALL Date: 09/30/93 1:08a
Subj: TRANSFER RATES (PANASONIC CR-562B VS TOSHIBA 3401 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There has been some talk of the AT bus interface CD-ROM drives having faster
transfer rates than the SCSI bus drives, whereas I believe that to not be tha
case. This comparison was done to test my hypothesis.
Constants:
Tested on an i486DX2-66, running a Seagate ST11200 Fast SCSI-2 HD in
synchronour mode, 700Mb partition formatted HPFS running under OS/2 2.1,
CMD.EXE boot (no WPS). Drivers used were the drivers as shipped with OS/2 2.1
for the SCSI unit, and the SoundBlaster drivers (SBCD2.ADD date 8 May 1993).
Files seleted were from the 001A directory of the Night Owl 9 CD ROM, totalling
35,048Kb, to keep the area of file on the CD-ROM constant. Transfer was
manually timed, and copy was done with a batch file, 2 test passes on each
drive, alternating the drives, and an initial run carried out to fill any cache
that may exist as well as to give an idea of time taken. The files were deleted
from the HD after each transfer. The above was done to keep conditions as
constant as possible (and OS/2 was not in multi-tasking mode).
Panasonic CR-562B Toshiba 3401
Pass 1 2 min 39 sec 2 min 26 sec
Pass 2 2 min 39 sec 2 min 25 sec
The time was rounded to the nearest second, and there will be some overhead for
the command processor as well as the HD.
It would appear that the Toshiba is about 9.3% faster than the Panasonic; when
the various overheads involved is taken into account (a possible cause of a
transfer rate of approx 240Kb/sec for the Toshiba, a lot less then the rate
330Kb/sec), it is close to the expected 10% faster spec rate of the Toshiba
over the Panasonic.
In conclusion, there are probably not much difference between the two interface
for the *same rated transfer rate*, but there exist faster SCSI units (and more
expensive too) than the AT bus.
Side not; the Panasonic initially had problems with the tray due to the motor
and laser transport coming loose in transit, and obstruting the tray (noted
also was the abundance of flexible plastic, and the poorer enclosure which may
not be as dust proof).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 4933
To: TERRY MENZIES Date: 09/28/93 9:52a
Subj: CR562B CD-ROM DRIVE.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Terry, In a message on <Sep 24>, you said :
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs
TM> fit the Cr-562-b? The Drive requires an $50
TM> controller card to work with the SB-Pro, or it will
I would imagine that it requires the controller card to work WITHOUT the Sbpro.
The Sbpro has its own on board interface to the CDrom so you will not need
another controller.
Laurie
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 4934
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 8:14p
Subj: BLOKIT INOVATIONS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Original Area: COMM
* Original To : All (1:365/3253)
Has ANYONE ever heard of a shareware outfit called "BLOKIT INOVATIONS"?
ADDRESS? PHONE NUMBERS? BBS NUMBERS?
tHANX!
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 4935
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/29/93 6:22p
Subj: CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANAL Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
RH>I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table
MS> betwe
RH>many popular CD-ROMs.
RH>It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.
RH>Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold o
MS> i
MS> That was my list. You can download the program from our BBS @
MS> 509-457-0206. Good little utility!
Hey Mike, could you give us a filename so we could freq it?
... Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it.
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From: JAMES SMITH Number: 4936
To: ANDREW PAGE Date: 10/07/93 8:08p
Subj: Door Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Could you send in to register the Time Bank it says it is FREE!
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From: JEFF NORTON Number: 4937
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 12:49p
Subj: MSCDEX Refer: NONE
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I just recently went to use Stacker v3.0 and found that after I stacked the
drives that I could not get MSCDEX to load despite changing the /L: parameter
to reflect the drive change.
All I would get when my autoexec loaded was "Packed file is corrupt".
I'm running DOS 5.0 with DV and DOSMAX. Anyone have an idea what I did wrong?
FYI, I did move MSCDEX after SSWAP.
Jeff
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4938
To: RON FINDLING Date: 10/03/93 4:52p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF>>RF>However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got together
RF>>RF>to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could afford one
RF>>Now that they are under $200, that's ALREADY true.
RF>Unfortunately, you're mainly talking about "cheapo" drives that are
RF>getting out of date, and when one adds in the cost of the interface...
RF>nope, we're not there yet...
The Mitsumi is going here (WITH interface card) for $171 and I'm
currently getting even the new caddyless double-speed MPC-2 Panasonic
CR-562, with interface card, for about $220. So we ARE there. NOW.
The fact that there are on offer "high end" drives (with MORE features
than most people really need) at higher prices doesn't mean that a
good, fast drive isn't affordable to nearly everybody. Today.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4939
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 10/03/93 5:16p
Subj: Amiga cd rom.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT> Most people I know that use CDROM are Sysops. I don't know a single person
PT>who bought one just to play games or whatever. I do know one person who is
PT>going to get one for his personal use but it's part of a package deal he's
PT>getting.
There's a LOT of programmers who are buying them too, in part because
things like Visual C++ comes on them, in part because it's by FAR the
cheapest and most efficient way to accumulate a large collection of
shareware (a hundred times or more cheaper than downloading), and in
part because of the numerous wonderful reference sources like you
mention below.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4940
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/03/93 5:22p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>> Neither have I, although I have had some very close calls, until I
BF>>caddies.
BF>I've had exactly ONE close call - and I was TRYING to break that disc!
This was the hammer incident, right??? I bit my tongue the first
time, but the truth is I'm DYING to know the story behind that one!!??
BF>> That 2% can easily cost several times the total amount of all the
BF>>caddies one would ever buy.
BF>That 2% should not be using CD's in the first place, as they are EXACTLY the
BF>folks that are going to be likely to damage their ROMs trying to get them in
BF>the caddy in the first place.
There is NO protection against gross incompetence. :-)
BF>I have NEVER taken 10 seconds to load/unload from a jewel case - more like 1
BF>seconds.
Remember, we are talking about the same kind of klutz who is incapable
of loading a disc without destroying it. ;-)) No protection, etc.
etc.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4941
To: RAY DYER Date: 10/03/93 5:28p
Subj: CD Rom scratches Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RD> Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is caused
RD>even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust from even before
RD>first use?
Never "clean" a disc that doesn't NEED cleaning.
RD>I have a Mitsumi drive (005s) and other CD Roms that used to work now sudden
RD>don't. The scratched are seen to travel from the centre to the edge and
RD>therefore should not pose a problem.
That last paragraph there is enough to demonstrate that it's a problem
with your drive, possibly coupled with a few marginally readable discs.
Have your drive checked by a Mitsumi-competent repair shop... or better,
ship it back to Mitsumi for repair under warranty.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 4942
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/03/93 6:10p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> BH> Gosh..... where were some of you when I first mentioned the sit
BJ> BH> Wating for the hanging party, the victory party, or the smoke si
BJ> BH> from all the flames??????
BJ>I guess we didn't realize that such a huge flap was going to ensue.
Freedom isn't retained unless you're willing to fight for it, Bob.
There's always people trying to take one's freedoms away, a little bit
at a time...
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From: ALEX COLYBADIS Number: 4943
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 10/05/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Greetings Adrian,
I would appreciate a copy of your CD-ROM catalogue.
Alex Colybadis,
20 Mythimnis street,
112 57 Athens
Greece
Many thanks.
Alex
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From: BOB BALDOCK Number: 4944
To: KERRY ARCHER Date: 10/04/93 6:44a
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> in 7th Guest; I find in a related matter, that my NEC CDR-84 skips
> virtually all the time when playing audio...is there a common fix for
> this? Is there some command line that should be incorporated in
> one's config.sys or autoexec.bat that might address this?
The appropriate command is "CLEAN the DRIVE" (particuliarly the carrier
mechanics and lens system) followed by send it out for ALIGNMENT if this
doesn't work. Skipping on audio CDs is almost always a dirt/alignment problem.
Bob
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From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 4945
To: RALPH BANE Date: 10/06/93 11:49p
Subj: Mmm Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Ralph Bane to All <=-
RB> OK, I have a question for you all. What kind of windows media player
RB> will play .mmm files? I just got the Dinasaurs cd and when I run it,
RB> I get an error saying that some kind of media player cannot be opened
RB> and the mplayer under windows does not recognize .mmm files?????? So
RB> now the cd dosen't run except to go in with the file manager and view
RB> some .avi files and hear some .wav files
I added a driver to my media player to run "partly" .mmm files... do you
think I can post you this driver in UUEncode message here?
Shaka!
... Why is "abbreviated" such a long word?
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From: MARTIN ALBERT Number: 4946
To: JOHN COLEMAN Date: 10/06/93 11:50p
Subj: Testing 1 2 Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting John Coleman to All <=-
JC> Testing to see if we are cconnected yet!!!
You're connected....Ahhhhhhahhhhhaaaaahaaaa! (Stereo MC's)!
... I am free of prejudices. I hate everyone equally.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4947
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 10/05/93 3:59p
Subj: GIGA GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>GIGA GAMES, is it commercial or shareware?
Mostly or all Shareware, may be a few FreeWare titles on it.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4948
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 10/06/93 2:02p
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> NE> For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
> NE> Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99.
> PR> Sure isn't like that here in Texas! (Checked it out today, they
> PR> thought I was nuts)
>I TRYED A r.s. THAY TRYED to sell me a cdr-1100 for 299.00
According to a guy I know at a local Radio Shack, they sold out ALL of their
remaining stock of CDR-1000's within 3 DAYS of dropping the price to $60.
He doesn't think the CORPORATION has any left....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4949
To: BILL WOLFF Date: 10/06/93 2:04p
Subj: CD CARE Refer: NONE
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>Well maybe I am all wet, but I thought the whole idea of the CD was that as
>long as laser light could bounce through the plastic, it will read correctly.
Nope. The light goes into the disc and bounces off the layer of Aluminum (or in
a few cases, gold) and then has to get back TO the receptor.
This stuff is QUITE sensitive to surface damage on the CD itself, though
various techniques can make a reader SOMEWHAT less sensitive to such damage.
>There was fear at one time that oxidation would erode the metal coating.
It will - eventually. Real life testing shows that it takes a LOT longer than
the 5-10 year "lower bound" figures SOME accelerated life tests came up with,
though, if the disc is put together properly.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4950
To: ROBERT FROST Date: 10/06/93 3:09p
Subj: UNKNOWN NIGHTOWLCD Refer: NONE
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>I was wondering if anyone could help me, with this CD i've got. It says Night
>Owl's , instead of just nightowl.Is this an imitation, or just a mistake? The
>CD was made in 1990 and it's number is PDSI-002-1.
Night Owl 2 - OLD disc by current standards, but there sould still be a lot of
good stuff on it.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4951
To: DAVE CLARK Date: 10/06/93 3:12p
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
The reviews are nice to see, but please don't post them in multiple echoes.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4952
To: PAUL PERHACS Date: 10/06/93 4:26p
Subj: CD CAPACITY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Dean, Just a word of advice, stay away from radio shack when it comes to
>computers. Their prices and quality can be easily beaten.
Generally true, but their closeout and sale pricing is usually reasonable.
Their quality varies - I've bought some junk from them, but I also bought my
current car CD player (on closeout) from them and love it, and their Minimus-7
speakers are some of the best small speakers around (and very reasonable cost
when they go on sale for $29.95 or $39.95).
>Creative labs and Sony both make very nice CD rom drives.
Creative Labs makes NO CD-ROM drives at all - the drives they sell are
repackaged Panasonic/Matsushita units.
>Bottom line, check around before making your final investment. You will be
>glad that you did.
So true - I just wish I had caught the $60 final closeout deal on those "Radio
Shack" (Mitsumi really) CDR-1000's....
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 4953
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/02/93 10:27a
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>Philips should have implemented CD:s with some sort of
protective covering
BF>>Could be, but that also is too late to change, 'till the "next
BF>>generation" stuff gets out of the lab....
SD> Apparently you two haven't noticed that CD's (And thus CD-Rom's)
SD> have a layer plastic about 1/4 millimeter thick designed
SD> specifically to resist scratching and stuff.. if you take
SD> descent care of the disc, the little nicks and scratch
SD> normally won't affect it.. (If you don't take care of it,
SD> the BIG scratches ruin it..)
Despite the protective layer (Acrylic?), it doesn't take a big scratch to
make part of the disc unreadable. If the scratch follows the data path
(circular arc with the same center as the disk), an almost invisible scratch
can cause a burst error long enough to be uncorrectable, and may even result in
mistracking. Fortunatly, the probability of getting such a scratch is quite
low.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4954
To: KEITH SPEARS Date: 10/07/93 11:32p
Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Keith!
05 Oct 93, Keith Spears writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> Have some new prices on some CD's
PR>> 1-left Languages of the World -+--+-- $17 (with book)
KS> If this CD covers Sanskrit (preferably with a Sanskrit/English
KS> dictionary), I will happily purchase it. Let me know here or netmail.
KS> ... I am not an animal! I am ... well, not an animal.
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Sold
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4955
To: CHARLES ALVIS Date: 10/08/93 12:00a
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Charles!
Recived the money today mail ran late but already packed and will mail first
thing in morning (Oct-8), thanks let me know when you get the package.
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4956
To: RON AGUIAR Date: 10/07/93 11:57p
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ron!
Recived the money today mail ran late but already packed and will mail first
thing in morning (Oct-8), thanks let me know when you get the package.
Pat
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From: KEN HARVEY Number: 4957
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/04/93 8:29p
Subj: Re: CD ROM SCRATCHES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Is there a way to repair small tiny scratches on a CD that is caused by
BF> >even a lint-free, soft cloth that was used to remove dust from even before
BF> >first use?
BF>
BF> Optical polishing methods work on a CD-ROM.
Auto Paste wax works as well. Read it once in a magazine that if you put the
wax on and polish it with a soft cloth it helps on scratches. I tried it on
several Audio CD's that I had and cured about 85% of the skipping I was
getting. Including the one the kids decided was a frisbee!
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 4958
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/05/93 8:13p
Subj: Re: kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> You have Kings Quest 7?!!! Can I get it from you, whats it
>> like?
BO>
BO> Sure can as we have it in stock !!
BO>
BO> As for the game itself, it's well worth the $$ and very entertaining,
BO> even better than version 6 by 10 folds.
BO>
BO> Your welcome to call us at 800-243-0517 and place your order if you'd
BO> like....yes..the 800 number does reach Canada now too !! Next step is
BO> a toll free International number.
BO>
BO> Chat with you soon...
BO>
Yeah right! Kings Quest 7 is not out! Will not be for another year or so.
Kings Quest 6 is the current 'new' game....
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From: RICK DUNLAP Number: 4959
To: PETER RALLIS Date: 10/05/93 12:39p
Subj: Re: Starvector Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Peter Rallis to Greg Isokrari <=-
PR> On 27 Sep 93 20:29:18 Bob Hay graced us with these words of wisdom:
GI> Mike Shannon posted the price list for Starvector Software and I was
GI> wondering if anyone had ever ordered from there??? Are they a decent
GI> place to buy from.
PR> ! Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-632-2566
PR> (1:128/13)
I've ordered from Mike 3 times, and my dealings with him have been right on
the money. he had the titles advertised at just about the best price around.
But price isn't the only thing. his service is top rung. Give him your
business. You won't be disappointed!
... No decorations necessary.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: JOHN OLSEN Number: 4960
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 10/07/93 2:09p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Howdy Chris!
There's an excellent article in Computer Gaming World No. 111, October 1993.
I had purchased the SB16 mainly as a salve for the compatability issue. And,
while I've had not a problem in that area, it does tend to make a "crackling"
sound right in the middle of an application, and it sounds a bit "tinny"
compare to other boards.
As for quality, the SBPro or the PA16 seem to stand out, though fall in other
areas.
However, there is a great deal of expectation in the next generation of sound
cards. A true THX-style is on the horizon, what company will bring that about,
who knows?
Though, I am pleased with the CD-Rom set up with the SB16 multi-media package.
It is a great improvement over the old CD-Rom drive I had before. Plus, it is
nice to have the sound card also run the CD-Rom, saving another slot open.
Take it easy,
John
...where in HELL is Carmen Sandiego?
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From: SCOTT WINGFIELD Number: 4961
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 10/07/93 3:40a
Subj: Thanks for the responses Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET> Are there any other shareware CD's that will run under
ET> a door like Mega-Demo? My BBS system does not use any
ET> other BBS's file structures. (i.e FILES.BBS) I run
I would recommend Stanley Sheff's program ROMBRAIN instead of trying to work
around the problem. You can allow you users to request files from other
CD-ROMS that aren't in the drive. I have 2 drives with 6 disks (2 online and
the rest can be requested). You use his included file called NOTICE and when a
user logs on it will tell them they have requested files ready for download.
Not that I get a % of his sales or anything but its the best I have seen. It
however must be registered to download. If you would like a copy you can FREQ
it here under the name ROMBRAIN.ZIP. Its about 300k-400k and you can call at
9600.
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From: LEE MYERS Number: 4962
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 5:04p
Subj: The Death of a Young Man Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TO THE SYSOPS WHO RECEIVE THIS -- Please pass this to
other boards and maybe one child will be saved. I do
realize that this subject is not within the normal
confines of most of the bases I am placing it, however,
sometimes the subject goes beyond and I felt this should
be spread to the most people around.
This is a message designed for every parent!
Today at approximately 11:30 AM, October 8th, 1993,
I was at the death of a young man in Erlanger, Kentucky.
The young man was riding his bike and drove across a
driveway, at the same time a delivery truck was turning
into the driveway. The boy eight or nine was struck.
I immediately approached the boy hoping that I could help,
he was bleeding excessively from the mouth and nose.
I could tell he was in shock and that my knowledge was
far to less to help, don't know why but I said, "Your Mom
and Dad love you son", at that moment he appeared to relax,
the young man was dead. This is a true story and if local
you will hear of it on the radio and TV probably tonight.
I know not the young mans name, I did have my 10 year old
daughter with me and I am sure she will be seeing it in her
mind for a long time. Maybe just maybe when riding her bike
she will take the moment to insure that the cross traffic lanes
are clear or that no one is trying to make a turn into a
driveway.
My heart goes out to the parents of the child, I will visit
them at the funeral and hopefully help them know that their
son knew that they loved him.
These questions come to my mind -- Where was the helmet for the
boy? Why had he been riding on a major road? Why did he have
to die?
So when you say to yourself that maybe I should let my son or
daughter ride without that helmet, that maybe I don't have to
take the time to teach them road safety and defensive riding,
or anything of another thousand things that we know. Think
again. I know I will teach again and again and hope and pray
that another young boy or girl won't die in my hands.
I hope this makes sense and I hope maybe somebody's child will
learn from this. In all honesty, I hope my daughter learns
from this and that someday someone elses father or mother does
not have to do what I just did!
Lee Myers
T.L.C. Computers BBS
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 4963
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 10/08/93 6:47a
Subj: Re: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
QL> >I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the
QL> >sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I talked to
QL> Graeme
QL> >Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte Software a few months ago, and he
QL> >said they were shooting to release the sequel between Sept. and Dec.
QL> Any
QL> >info would be most appreciated.
QL> From what I've heard it's going to be called The 11th Hour
QL> and will only be playable on a MPC2 spec machine. (Jeez My
QL> Computers out of date already - Dont ya hate it when that
QL> happens?)
QL> -Quinn Larkin-
QL> ... DeltaMail v2.40 (#1144)
QL> --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1144)
QL> * Origin: Southern Lights BBS, Dunedin NZ, +64-3-455-6016
QL> (3:770/515)
QL> 3615/50
Hopefully I'll be able to play it on my setup. I'm about to get 2 Texel
CD-ROM drives (3201B's, I think), controlling them with a Pro Audio Spectrum
16 SCSI interface/sound board. I haven't even beaten the first one yet.....
Jason
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From: RANDY WHITE Number: 4964
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 10:55a
Subj: Which CD-Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I currently have a Sblaster Pro 2, and there slow CD-Rom drive. I'm looking
at a SB-16 and the new 562 drive. Is this the best choice? I've seen the new
Quad 6 pack drive, is anyone going to release them on a single drive? I've
heard about 3-d sound and good comments about the Gravis Ultrasound. I don't
want to have to upgrade anytime soon, I want a sound card and a cd-rom that
will last a little while. Thanks...
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 4965
To: DON RIEB Date: 10/08/93 10:25a
Subj: CDROM drive $100 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Don!
07 Oct 93, Don Rieb writes to All:
DR> I have a Internal HITACHI CDROM for sale for $100. It is the drive only,
DR> no interface card. Terry Blount of this cdrom echo sells the cards and
DR> cables for this drive. It has drive select switchs for 1-4 drives. It
is
DR> a 600ms drive. I will ship it to anyware in the US for free and you can
DR> use your VISA or Mastercard if you wish. If interested call me 'Don' at
DR> 708-657-1160 or send Email to 1:115/724. I will also ship it to you
DR> C.O.D., I would require $4.00 extra for the C.O.D. fee.*
I am interrested in this drive if you can't get $100 I would take it for $90
plus COD so here is my address if you decide to sell it for 90
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418
#512-939-9822
(Please spell out Ninth)
Pat
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4966
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 9:32a
Subj: new cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> There's a totally NEW OS/2 cd due out soon that will have over 600megs
BO> worth of nothing but OS/2 programs on it.
BO> There's one out now call "OS/2 in a Box or something like that, but
BO> save your $$ as this new one will be worth every penny and more. Even
BO> the front end menu system will offer OS/2 support, but it will also
BO> support DOS as well.
BO> Shouldn't be much longer, maybe 2 weeks or so......
Thanks,
as soon as you get this OS/2 reserve one for me, O.K. ? Yes,
I've heard about "OS/2 in a Box", but I'm gonna wait for the one you're
about to get.
If you can, please crash me an ASC II file (I think it
shouldn't be greater than 20Kbytes, right ?) with the names/prices of
the GOOD NEW CDs you have, O.K. ? (From multimidia - education, maps,
etc... - to BBS CDs ...). I think you can select about 50 titles, wich
wouldn't be a big file to send.
If you don't want to crash, please leave it as HOLD to me,
and I'll crash you, O.K. ?
If it's possible, you could leave a file with the description
of all NEW CDs you have available for FREQ. This way I could FREQ it
each month, and it would be EASY to request CDs from you.
BO> I'll be looking for it as your cd's should be there anyday now....
Yes, they are here. Very good, and it was fast to reach me !!
BO> Chat with you soon....
I'm waiting ...
BO> Boris Osadciw
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
... Draulas BBS - +55 61 351-83-89 - 24 hours - 300 to 14400
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 4967
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 10:13a
Subj: kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> Your welcome to call us at 800-243-0517 and place your order if you'd
BO> like....yes..the 800 number does reach Canada now too !! Next step is
BO> a toll free International number.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I hope it gets FAST !
[]s Rodolfo Vaz
... Draulas BBS - +55 61 351-83-89 - 24 hours - 300 to 14400
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From: CARL DELEO Number: 4968
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 12:00a
Subj: New CD Eagle Eye Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Originally by Carl Deleo, 1:237/527
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 4 Aug 1993, 12:58
The Eagle Eye CD-ROM Disc Order Form
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- All New Shareware Files 92 & 93
- Easy to use file access menu system
- Great for PC Users and for Sysops
- Over 600 Meg of Files in categories
- BBS Ready to connect
- Ready to run games + more
- Ready Gif file viewer + many Gifs
- One low price + dealer prices avail.
SYSOP SPECHAL $25.00
Dealer Pricing
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From: RICK POTTS Number: 4969
To: GERARD AUVRAY Date: 10/07/93 9:35p
Subj: Buy a cd rom ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GA>I plan to buy a CD-ROM drive in the SAN DIEGO area. I'm looking for a
GA>Panasonic 562, perhaps with a SB 16 ASP (I have a SB PRO). Could you
GA>tell me where I can find a Computer Shop which sells this device (and
GA>at which price !). Could you tell me also where to buy Cd-ROM's at
GA>good prices ; I'm looking for Shareware CD-ROM, Encarta Encyclopedia
GA>and other goodies you can tell me.
Price Club, which has stores all over Southern California, has the
Panasonic drive for $249 U.S. They also have the SB Pro, but I can't
remember how much they're asking for it.
GA>If you know good places in SAN DIEGO, LAS VEGAS,GRAND- CANYON area,
GA>for sleeping, eating or entertainment, give me your bests
GA>informations Best Regards GERARD
If you're going to see the the Grand Canyon, why not stay at the lodge
right there on the South Rim? Very nice.
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4970
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/07/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How far have I gotten? Not far at all, the game didn't impress me at all, the
intro is impressive, but that's about all. Just got Kings Quest VI tonight,
and that looks really good.. too late to start playing it now though...
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From: COREY BICCUM Number: 4971
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/07/93 10:23p
Subj: Re: terminate and cdroms? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yeah, I've been using Terminate for about 6 months now and I LOVE it, way
better than telix that's for sure, and the key are just about the same, (after
using telix for 2 years!) Terminate is even better now that I got my cdrom..
with the player...
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From: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Number: 4972
To: N Date: 10/07/93 2:54p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BH>>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
BH>>CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram,
BH>>and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck reading disks.
BH>Dont know if i can help, but i have had similar problems with a 562-b and
BH>a SB16ASP, it refuses to see the CD-ROM in DOS and OS/2. the 562 will work
BH>with a pro/2 when i use the sbcd.sys driver from CL, just take out the /t:2
BH>and add /a:0 to the device driver. CL Tech support couls not answer me as
The dealer gave me a the latest SBPro - 2 disk and I re-installed the SB Pro
and everything worked out fine. Didnt have to remove the /t:2 etc.
BH>to why it works with the pro/2 and not the 16ASP and they didn't care.
BH>The Tech said they do not support Panasonic drives on SB cards at all only
BH>the repackaged Panasonics that they sell, they were very rude and offered
BH>no help whatsover, didn't even ask about my system or the settings on my
BH>16ASP card, BE WARNED Creative Labs does not care about supporting their
BH>users unless you pay the extra bucks to buy the 563 drive from them.
What's with these companies, you buy one piece of equipment from them, they
design the eqpt to control the CDROM, and they dont even want to talk to you!!
I think that's absolutely absurd! So the next step is to go bug the dealer
which he may have to have a tech spend 2-3 hours of time when you know that CL
has the answer at the end of their tongue.
BH>4 SB cards this will be my last! BH>Sorry to be so negative, but thats the
way CL was on the phone.
Negative. I don't think it's negetive, It's poor customer service. I'll bet
if you call Adobe Systems tech line, they'll dance any song you sing to them to
please you. But when your number one in sales like CL for soundboards, going
that extra distance to help people like us is not a concern to them. Total
Quality Management - ????????
===
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4973
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 10/07/93 8:33p
Subj: Ackqment Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
/q
-> Thanks... I did find the way to pass the boling water... And now am
-> about to finishh this Kings Q 6...
->
-> Thanks again... Where are some other places you seen me? I don't get
-> around much.. unless this alias is no good..
->
-> Thanks - Candid Kid out..
I don't know just around if ever need anyhelp on kq6 just ask I can master
all 3 edndings (thats right three!!) And get all points if you want the solve
just ask..
-Carl-
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4974
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 8:40p
Subj: Re: kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> >> You have Kings Quest 7?!!! Can I get it from you, whats it >>
-> like?
->
-> Sure can as we have it in stock !!
->
-> As for the game itself, it's well worth the $$ and very entertaining,
-> even better than version 6 by 10 folds.
->
-> Your welcome to call us at 800-243-0517 and place your order if you'd
-> like....yes..the 800 number does reach Canada now too !! Next step is
I called your place there and they said all they had was kq6 and don't even
think that sierra has started it yet. Are you sure it wasn't kq6 you have in
stock and it being way better then kq5 by 10 folds? We'll anyway.. TTYL (I'd
buy it from you but I've found it in a store for $40 canadien and there's no
shipping so it's a pretty good deal. Ever plaid The 7th Guest I'm stuck in the
gameroom with the chess queens.
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4975
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/07/93 8:42p
Subj: Discount cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here it is
Winnipeg Manitoba:
18 Almondel Key
r3t-5c4 Canada
I think thats it so TTYL..
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4976
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 8:47p
Subj: Dune is here !! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> D U N E - T H E G A M E O N C D
-> by Virgin Games
->
-> Play the game with actual footage from the David Lynch cult film,
-> based on the best-selling Frank Herbert epic. Fly ornithoptors,
-> conquer the Harkonnen bases, manage spice production and overtake
-> armies of Fremen troopers. Accurately synchronized speech of live
-> actors with subtitles available in seven languages.
-> Price - $59.00
-> ORDER LINE US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
->
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
-> --- FMail 0.96
->
-> * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
Don't whant to bug you or anthing but DUNE 2 is already out for CD.
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4977
To: JASON SUTTLE Date: 10/07/93 9:00p
Subj: Sequel to the 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the
-> sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I
-> talked to Graeme Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte
-> Software a few months ago, and he said they were shooting to
-> release the sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be
-> most appreciated.
->
-> Jason
->
-> P.S. I have NOT finished the game yet. Stuck on the virus puzzle.
-> I think it is similar to Othello, but then again, I don't play
-> that many board games. :-)
->
-> --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
->
-> * Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180)
Hi I'm stuck in three places the game room at chess with queens, the fat
ladies room with the bishops and the kitchen's cans.. please help..
-Carl-
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From: CARL SCHULTZ Number: 4978
To: MICHAEL JESSY Date: 10/07/93 9:02p
Subj: The 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey. Does Anyone have the 7th Guest for CD-ROM? If you do could you
-> please help me by giving me some of the answers to the puzzles. I am
-> totally stumped and I need some help because that book in the library
-> in the house doesn't help that much. Please help me if you know
-> something. Michael Jessy
I can help where are you stuck?
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4979
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/08/93 1:52a
Subj: CD Rom thing'ies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Another msg I have suggests that its Trilobyte being lazy on
writing drivers for T7G for S3 based cards.....
DM> It seems more like a hardware limitation on the S3s, if you look
to the T7G_130 update / readme text file it looks like Trilobyte
have thrown in the towel regarding S3 based cards, their phrasing
"the S3 based card is just to slow". And in another message in this
echo, I was surprised to see that the Viper only measured 50% of
optimum on T7G. Makes one wonder what will happen when they release
the sequel, the 11th Hour which is supposed to be even more wanting.
RE> ATI may have problems getting their drivers right (Release 59
appears stable on my system!), but they didn't ignore the DOS side
of things in developing their Windows Accelerator cards.... Other
mfrs seem to have the viewpoint that its a Windows Accelerator, Why
do you want good DOS performance too??
DM> ATI makes some fine hardware, but why the constant driver
updating and where is the beta testing, as some of their drivers
quite unstable. It does make for some interesting food for thought.
So far the Tseng reminds me of the battery commercial, " it just
keeps going and going", and even Windows seems a happy camper. As
for "good Dos performance", well, all of the latest and greatest
mega marvels, that will eat memory for lunch, spin your HD into a
frenzy, promise "golly gee whiz" bang for the buck, need zero to
lightspeed VGA and make your 486 strain when play'n them games will
be released for Dos and CD Rom (Rebel Assault for one) so having
fast Dos performance is just added icing on the cake.
RE> Well, the difference between a SONY CDU-31A and the CR562B was
noticeable to me.... WC II was faster, and you seem to get the
scrolls through the Night Owl front-end better.... Just MHO....
DM> What I find interesting is so far, I have not found myself
"waiting" regarding the 31a. One possible answer may be that the
rest of the system is compensating for the slowness of the 31a (31a
driver version 1.27). I have AutoDesk's Animator for Windows, and
have experienced none of the problems reported in PC Magazine, aka
jerky motion when viewing various animations in Windows on my
system. And in T7G, one just moves, with fluid motion, frame to
frame, with no horizontal banding or tearing though one does notice
that at times the 31a does seem to take a while to find what it is
looking for. I have not tried the WC2 CD, as I have the disk based
versions of WC1 and WC2, but WC1 is no longer playable or in a
nutshell, it is just to fast. I agree that the dual speed should
offer better performance, and yet, AutoDesk's Animator for Windows
on a SCSI CD Rom (dual speed - similar 486 system), did experience
some lag and jerking which is very interesting indeed...
RE> Could be the original V1.04 install for T7G was screwed....
V1.20 reports 300Kbps..... I should receive in the next week or so a
copy of a CD transfer rate test program and I'll give it a whirl...
(I still have access to the CDU-31A)....
DM> You have again "perked my interest", it will be interesting to
see how the 56x does fair, as there have been various messages
regarding the transfer rates of the Panasonic (SB based) / vrs the
SCSI based CD Roms. BTW, what is the name of the "CD transfer rate"
program.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4980
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/08/93 1:59a
Subj: cdrom cable Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you call Creative Labs - 1-800-998-5227 you can order one of two cables that
will interface the CD Rom audio out to the SBs CD audio inputs. All you need to
know is which type of cable you will require, the three pin version fits the
Sony 31a type (large plastic block connector), or four pin version smaller
inline plastic connector.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4981
To: TIM SMITH Date: 10/08/93 2:14a
Subj: Kodak CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Corel has a series of Photo CD's which it is now making available and offer a
wide selection of viewing topics. The product is called Corel Professional
Photos CD Rom and is Royalty Free, Kodak Photo CD Format, PC and MAC
compatible, Ideal for DeskTop Publishing. Call Corel at 1-800-772-6735 ext 20
and the price is $49.95 per CD. Happy viewing.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 4982
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/08/93 3:06a
Subj: Cable Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Give Creative Labs a call, and mention the type of CD Rom you have and they
will be able to mate it to the proper cable.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 4983
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/06/93 5:38a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AB>Well Henry, I love you tagline and Day of the Tentacle is the second version
AB>of the Maniac Mansion game, it comes in both CD-ROM and regular disk version
AB>but the CD-ROM version has the original Maniac Mansion game as an arcade gam
AB>which you can play, so its like a game inside a game, well anyway LucasArts
AB>makes it and all the people that have it say its really funny, and besides t
AB>box looks funny too, well the price is about $40 and well I don't know if I
AB>wanna buy that game, anyway I am real happy that I just got a GUS card and
AB>installed it and actually right now, I just finished installing the card and
AB>the software for it and tested it out too, man I am really gonna like this
AB>one, well TTYL.
Thanks! I try to be original!
YOU HAVE A GUS!!!!!! TELL ME MORE!!! I WANT ONE, I THINK!
HOW DO YOU LIKE IT?
Okay, now I can type normal again..... How does it sound? Have you tried
recording with it? Tell me more! I've heard semi-bad things about it,
but at the price, I think it just might be worth it!!!
TTYL,
Henry
* OLX 2.1 TD * problem officer? You were doing 1650 in a 240 zone!
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 4984
To: QUINN LARKIN Date: 10/07/93 10:07a
Subj: Rebel Assult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Quinn Larkin wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXPlease! Someone must know when this is due out? Go on you
XXXcan tell - We're all friends here! :)
+-------------------------------+
The release has been slated for sometime next month (hopefully). :).
___
X LonMail X Someday I'll out-smart this machine... maybe...hopefully
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 4985
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 3:35a
Subj: Analysis: ACTORS & ACTRESSES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
CD-ROM ANALYSIS: ACTORS & ACTRESSES I
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
This is not a "review" in the traditional sense, but an unbiased "analysis" of
the product. We suggest you make your own decisions based on our analysis,
rather than let someone else pass judgement for you.
To all CD-ROM publishers and distributors: If you'd like to have a similar
analysis of your new releases published in the international file echoes, send
an evaluation copy of your product to: CD-ROM REVIEWS, Country Fair Software,
182 Pine Hill Road, New Fairfield, CT 06812 (203-746-1195, voice).
COUNTRY FAIR SOFTWARE HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE MANUFACTURER OF THIS DISC.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(1) Publisher: Clark Ulmer / The Movie BBS
(718) 321-3551 (voice) P. O. Box 1793
(718) 939-5462 (Data) Bowling Green Station
New York City, NY 10274-1134
(2) Attractive packaging? Yes
Promotional material available? N/I
Title visible on spine of Jewel Box? Yes
"FILES.BBS" in each directory? No
(3) Volume ID: A_A_V1_N1 53245255 bytes total disk space
ISO-9660 standard media 104960 bytes in 10 directories
Creation date: 09-16-1993 53140295 bytes in 420 user files
(4) Unreadable, duplicate, or outdated files (N/A)
(5) Content: 308 high resolution images of your favorite actors (97) and
actresses (211). A few swim-suit shots, no nudity. Shareware viewers for
DOS, MAC, and Atari are included, in addition to the CDVIEW shell program.
This disc has ONLY photos of the stars, no background data on the actors nor
additional descriptive information on the photographs.
(6) Installation, Disc Menu ("Front-end Engine"), and Operation: Installation
is not required. An excellent menu program (both DOS and Windows versions)
runs smoothly on all systems tested, using GIFDESK as a viewer. There are
five "thumbnail" catalog screens, for previewing all the photos on the disc.
(7) Licensed for BBS use? No. The back cover specifically states that the
disc "may not be used on a BBS or similar system."
(8) Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price: 39.95
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 4986
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/07/93 3:33a
Subj: As you can see..... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
Bob -
As you can see, I've taken the bull by the horns and am now
spending all of my free time doing reviews of non-XXX discs.
Please let me know what you think.
- Arnie :+}
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 4987
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 3:35a
Subj: Analysis: MONSTER I Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
CD-ROM ANALYSIS: MONSTER I (SHAREWARE)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
This is not a "review" in the traditional sense, but an unbiased "analysis" of
the product. We suggest you make your own decisions based on our analysis,
rather than let someone else pass judgement for you. We have not included a
breakdown of the "freshness" of the files, because so many shareware archives
carry inaccurate dates. Where there are exceptions, they will be noted.
To all CD-ROM publishers and distributors: If you'd like to have a similar
analysis of your new releases published in the international file echoes, send
an evaluation copy of your product to: CD-ROM REVIEWS, Country Fair Software,
182 Pine Hill Road, New Fairfield, CT 06812 (203-746-1195, voice).
COUNTRY FAIR SOFTWARE HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE MANUFACTURER OF THIS DISC.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(1) Publisher: Hacker's World BBS
(309) 672-4406 (voice) 4322 N. Padua Lane
(309) 672-4436 (Fax) Peoria, IL 61615
(309) 672-4447 (USR D/S 16.8) Contact: Martin Belcke
(2) Attractive packaging? No printed insert in Jewel box
Promotional material available? No
Title visible on spine of Jewel Box? No
"FILES.BBS" in each directory? Yes
(3) Volume ID: (none) 502987002 bytes total disk space
ISO-9660 standard media 1047552 bytes in 125 directories
Creation date: 08-04-1993 501939450 bytes in 4092 user files
(4) Unreadable files 12 2,581k 2.5 mb
Duplicates (or newer versions) on disc 231 52,070k 52.1 mb
Outdated files 63 66,081k 66.1 mb
Non-program files (FILES.BBS, etc) 574 1,332k 1.3 mb
--------
Total of files in groups above: 880 122.0 mb
(5) Content: After deducting the 122 mb in the 880 files above, the disc
still contains a total of 3212 files, or 380 mb of recent shareware.
"Unreadable" files include a dozen files whose names do not adhere to ISO 9660
file naming conventions (1st character in the filename must be alphanumeric).
Note: These files CAN usually be read under OS/2.
"Duplicates" include IMPRT26A.LZH & ZIP, SHEZ90A.ARJ & ZIP, SBACK1.EXE & ZIP,
2XTO3X.EXE & ZIP, VIRX28.ARJ & SDN, etc.
"Newer versions on disc" includes multiple versions of McAfee OS/2 SCAN (4
versions), LaserMax Check Maker (5), QuikTBrowse (3), ShowMe Saver (4), SIO
Drivers (21), MR2 QWK mail reader (5), MemSize (5), WPTOOLS (5), Word Search
Creator (3), CDPRO (5), Thunderbyte Anti-Virus (5), Dual Mod Player (4),
PPoint (5), etc.
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 4988
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 3:36a
Subj: MONSTER I - part 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Continued from previous message)
"Outdated" files include BOTH the complete 3.5" and 5.25" releases of OS/2
v1.3 (which may still be of interest to some users).
File summary by category and directory (DIRNAME / # of files / total bytes):
COMMUNICATIONS/MAIL/SYSOP
SOFTDIST 112 11034727 SDSBINK 6 101345
SDSFRONT 18 788027 WDNET3 240 15972889
DB_SOFT 40 4535608 IMAIL 8 1071717
COMTELEM 8 723212 COMTELIX 15 1354546
COMUTILS 4 596440 SDN_COMM 34 4467997
EDUCATION/GAMES
EDUCHILD 14 2006574 EDUCMATH 6 416660
EDUCMISC 32 3872781 GAMESA-M 46 5276645
GAMESN-Z 31 2650530 SDN_GAME 43 6638721
MORAFGAM 11 1854710
TEXT FILES/ELECTRONIC PUBLISHING
EP-ASCII 35 4079385 EP-BOOK 7 685086
EP-MAG 15 1666651 EP-TOOL 12 1263640
SDN_TEXT 50 2281365 SV_MISC 15 209910
SV_POL 18 1115289
GENEALOGY
GENEDEMO 11 1489845 GENEPAF 31 2033019
GENEPRG 31 4523356 GENETXT 139 10233321
GRAPHICS/DTP/CAD/FONTS
GRAPDESK 7 1123737 GRAPDRAW 13 1160356
GRAPENGI 23 232381 GRAPVIEW 7 248039
ACAD_DRV 12 888930 ACAD_LSP 8 134734
ACAD_MSC 14 727763 DTP_FONT 17 944940
DTP_UTL 6 275191 SDN_GRAP 12 1627925
WDN_GRF 14 923343
WORD PROC/DATABASE/FINANCIAL
BUSIACCT 19 2685593 BUSIMGMT 29 3036920
HOME-DB 7 507639 SDN_BUSI 37 3379293
SDN_DATA 74 8152462 SDN_WORD 28 2953476
WDN_GEN 10 676606
NETWORKS (MAC/UNIX/LAN etc)
LANNET 71 3479391 N_N2XX 6 787606
N_N3XX 9 1573201 N_NBTRV 17 3645928
N_NCOMM 28 2610213 N_NLITE 11 454856
N_NOTHR 73 4906502 N_NTECH 22 2988006
N_NTXT 14 1545891 N_NUTIL 11 1112333
HAM RADIO
HAMANT 7 89791 HAMCOMM 5 325763
HAMLOG 14 2445497 HAMMODS 11 139000
HAMNET 232 606297 HAMPACK 38 8433954
HAMSAT 72 1797130 HAMSCAN 10 310573
HAMSWL 85 214783 HAMTRAIN 9 635355
HAMUTIL 10 257162
OS/2
FWAPPS 49 7902952 FWCOMM 70 7973827
FWDRIVRS 27 2601480 FWGAMES 18 1665089
FWLAN 7 315992 FWREXX 19 966063
FWSYSUTL 153 79727117 FWUTILS 74 8552944
IBMEWS 36 3385655 IBMINFO 36 12970183
IBMOS2FX 173 63645939
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 4989
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 3:37a
Subj: MONSTER I - part 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Continued from previous message)
CLIPPER
CL-50 59 2768347 CL-52 24 763530
CL-87 6 74419 CL-DOC 27 427596
CL-FCO 31 1058548 CL-TOOL 56 7561945
PROGRAMMING
PDNAI 14 1315895 PDNASM 9 625015
PDNBASIC 25 3812220 PDNCEE 28 3514775
PDNGNDOS 7 440838 PDNLANG 18 4358011
PDNNEWS 24 2500369 PDNOS2 16 3929288
PDNOTHER 6 274630 PDNPASCL 41 5226032
SOUND SUPPORT
SNDAMGSU 8 632230 SNDMIDIS 8 40894
SNDOSUND 28 3878320 SNDSBUTL 7 479588
SNDSBVOC 8 1097541 SNDTRAK 21 1751958
WINDOWS/WINDOWS NT
WIN_DATA 33 7486820 WIN_DRVR 12 1848672
WIN_GAME 55 8107557 WIN_PROG 124 22744600
WIN_SOUN 18 1391325 WIN_SYST 30 3946671
WIN_UTIL 131 14177762 NT_FIX 20 657949
NT_GEN 18 1310607 NT_MSG 8 407767
NT_TOOLS 44 4868076
MISCELLANEOUS
ARCHIVER 7 396179 DVN-TECH 6 20373
HOMEGENR 8 1015691 HOMEHELP 8 399889
IDC_MISC 7 1218206 IDC_REL 29 1107410
SDN_MISC 54 6036231 SDN_OTHR 15 680525
SDN_UTIL 207 13837512 SV_NCRPT 43 2041156
UTIL4DOS 10 1245340 UTILNET 66 9233619
UTILPRNT 5 44586
(6) Installation, Disc Menu ("Front-end Engine"), and Operation: There is no
installation program, nor is a front end provided. You simply access this
disc as you would an additional hard drive. The "DIRS" directory contains
"FILES.TXT" (created 07/16/93), which is a complete file listing for the
entire CD-ROM, organized by Directory. Files are organized by the Network
from which they were obtained, and only then by subject matter.
(7) Licensed for BBS use? We can safely assume so. These files have all come
from national file echoes, and Hacker's World has not added any proprietary
software to this disc.
(8) Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price: $ 45.00
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From: MARTY ESCARCEGA Number: 4990
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/08/93 10:13a
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail please let me know via NETMAIL when it is available. Will be purchasing
it.
Thanks
>>> Marty <<<
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From: RICK LOOPER Number: 4991
To: JOHN HILEMAN Date: 10/08/93 11:20a
Subj: MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting John Hileman to All <=-
JH> I purchased a shrink-wrapped copy of Microsoft Bookshelf for Windows,
JH> 1993 edition at a recent local ham/computer fest. Unfortunately, the
JH> CD is defective
JH> The disk is labeled "COMPRO MULTIMEDIA" and because it is an apparent
JH> OEM product, Microsoft can't exchange the disk for me.
Same thing happened to me. I also have been unable to locate this
company and am starting to believe that it doesn't exist. Wonder if
anyone has bought one of these disk and have been able to get it to
work? It's a shame that Microsoft doesn't keep information of who they
supply OEM products. If you find any information I would appreciate you
sharing the same. Good luck.
... Rick Looper (704) 256-8971 data only, Wildcat 3.90S
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From: DICK LECOMPTE Number: 4992
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 7:25p
Subj: 1 meg ram in a 286 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a 286 12 with one meg of ram. What do i need to utilize it ????
With dos,mouse xtree gold and the cd rom I only have 490k avail and am getting
alot of insufficient memory notices.I have to boot of the floppy and then load
what I want which is a real pain.How do I get some of this stuff into the
upper 360 k ?????Thanks,Dick.
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From: LUCKE BERGER Number: 4993
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 5:13p
Subj: Soundblaster Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I heard about a SCSI-interface on the Soundblaster 16 recently.
It was not out for sale yet (?) and supposedly it was SCSI 2.
Anybody know anything ? (price/perf./suitable CD-roms/....)
Also heard something about an upgrade from OPL-3 to OPL-4.
By yearend or something.
Comments ??
___
* UniQWK v2.1 * The Windows Mail Reader
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 4994
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/08/93 8:58a
Subj: Re: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Gordon Peterson to Bob Jackson <=-
GP> Freedom isn't retained unless you're willing to fight for it, Bob.
GP> There's always people trying to take one's freedoms away, a little bit
GP> at a time...
You are so right, my friend! The next "bit" always seems to be prefaced by
"Well, if you're not doing <whatever>, you've got nothing to worry about."
Really recalls to mind the oft-quoted words of Pastor Neumeiller (may have
spelled that wrong) about his experiences in Germany as the Nazis were slowly
gaining power. Remember?
... Documentation - The worst part of programming.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4995
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/07/93 11:52a
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>2. The image resolution is better in computer scans compared to video tape
There is a tradeoff here - the video gives a LOT better COLOR resolution,
which can often produce a picture with better APPARENT resolution than the
typical 256 color limit in most computer scans.
>3. There is more variety in the computer images, you can put thousands of
>radically different images on a single disc
This I suspect is the MAJOR reason such discs sell....
* SLMR 2.1a * An Orc Paladin? What Hell world is THIS????
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4996
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/07/93 11:57a
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>AS>media development, as CD's were jointly developed by Philips and Sony,
Both were involved in the development of the Audio CD - they came up with
dissimilar formats, then got smart and comprimised on a 3'd format somewhere
between the original formats - which delayed CD introduction by at least 2
years (Phillips was demoing their stuff in '78 or '79) but the result was a
total lack of "format wars".
Sony basically came up with the CD-ROM format on it's own, though Phillips
jumped on the bandwagon VERY early.
>AS>Sony being the owner of CBS I beleive.
>Sony bought into CBS long after the CD development was established on the
>market.
About 3 years, actually - Sony bought out CBS in '85, as I recall.
* SLMR 2.1a * ping....ping....BURP! Six pack detected and terminated!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4997
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 10/07/93 1:44p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>We are 99.99% sure that we found all the commercial programs on
>the 4 disc set. However, in the event that we are wrong, I'd much rather that
>we be sued than any of the customers that have bought our products.
I LIKE that - too bad more folks in the industry aren't willing to take such an
attitude (yet)....
8-)
* SLMR 2.1a * In a limited Nuclear war, all the Nukes have names....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4998
To: TIM SMITH Date: 10/07/93 1:48p
Subj: KODAK CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hey, does anyone know of a Kodak CD you can bye with pictures on it already?
Both the Kodak and the Tempra Photo CD access discs include demo pictures on
them - 24 as I recall, and I suspect that they are the SAME pictures but
haven't had a chance to check yet to be certain....
* SLMR 2.1a * C:\PROGRAM\RUN RUN\PROGRAM\RUN AW\COMEON\PROGRAM\RUN!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 4999
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 10/07/93 1:51p
Subj: NEW CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> . Professional Shareware
Night Owl Business, PC-SIG, any of the current Shareware discs should have this
sort of stuff.
> . Multimidia
Multimedia - and any disk that says "multimedia" or "MPC" in the description
will fit - as in (I would guess) about a quarter of the discs currently on the
market.
> . OS/2
Hobbes would be the best known, there ARE a couple of others - including the
IBM OS/2 distribution disc.
> . BBS software (BBS util)
Shareware Online #2 would be my first recommendation here....
* SLMR 2.1a * Why isn't phonetically spelled that way?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 5000
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 1:55p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TR> what kind of CD-ROM drive runs off an IDE?
> Mitsumi, SONY and Panasonic make CD-ROM drives that are loosely termed
> "IDE" as the controller is on the drive and it communicates to a
> *DIFFERENT* paddle card/sound card than a hard drive IDE paddle card
> via a 40 way cable.....
> None of the above mfrs drives will, however, talk to the other... these
> "IDEs" are *INCOMPATIBLE*....
And none of these drives use the REAL "IDE" interface - they all use different
PROPRIATARY interfaces.
* SLMR 2.1a * I came, I saw, She conquered (original Latin was garbled)
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 5001
To: BILL GOCHNOUR Date: 10/06/93 1:43p
Subj: Re: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Bill Gochnour to All <=-
BG> Disclaimer mode..... I am not sure if this is allowed or not but I
BG> think I saw a msg stating as long as it's tasteful.....???? If this
BG> is not allowed I appologize.
BG> I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be bbs
BG> ready AND have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of files that
BG> have been scanned from magazines that like to sue people. If such a
BG> disc is out there can someone let me know the name(s)? If your a
BG> dealer and you have such a dsic can you let me know prices too? Thanx
I HOPE I CAN PLUG THE NEWest busty babys
as i hear not as many gifs of the gruss doing it as thar is more of the
gif's are center fold type none out of mag. thay payed the photog for
the ones the gag. didnt use as in all gif's have been signed for as in ok to
any thing with butt not sell tham i guss i better get of her
/s
... No matter what happens, someone always knew it would. ___ Blue Wave/QW
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 5002
To: TIM SMITH Date: 10/06/93 1:49p
Subj: Re: Kodak CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Tim Smith to All <=-
TS> Hey, does anyone know of a Kodak CD you can bye with pictures on it
TS> already? Kinda like a CD with GIF's but better rez.
seen one in computer shopper this month in the calsafided add.s
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 5003
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/06/93 1:54p
Subj: Re: Pioneer CD ROM change Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Markus Goebel <=-
>> Gday,
sorry to but in he sayed 240 v 50 hz will thay work 50 cps ac
>> I'm looking for a Pioneer 6-stack CD-ROM changer. Not sure
>> whether I'll go for the standard model or the quad-spin unit.
>> I'm interested in prices from both Australia as well as the
>> USA. For prices from US, I'd need to know; does the unit
>> support 240volt mains power (50hz)?
>> Will look at new as well as second hand units.
BO> The Pioneer unit has a built in volt switch that will allow you to
BO> use either 110 or 240volts.
BO> As for the price, the DMR600 is $739. and the DMR604X is $1169. This
BO> is for the bare drive, which gives you the drive, power cable, drivers
BO> for PC or MAC, magazine, RCA cable and manual.
BO> If you need further information, please feel free to contact us at
BO> 216-225-3263 or fax us your request to 216-225-6759 anytime and we'll
BO> be happy to assist you further as we do have these units in stock.
BO> Hope this helps....
BO> Boris Osadciw
BO> ... Xpress Yourself!
BO> -!- FMail 0.96G
BO> ! Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!" - Bart Simpson
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From: DOUG ROWAN Number: 5004
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 10/09/93 8:25a
Subj: Mitsumi FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM drive for sale with interface, cables,
-> software, and all docs. It is model LU005S. Specs: 350 msec acess time,
-> 150kb transfer rate. Drive has less than two hours of run time on it. I
-> am asking $165.00 and I will pay shipping. If interested leave me a
-> message here or phone me 804-744-3480.
Will offer $140, brand new here for $165.
Doug
1-619-627-8669 Voicemail (anytime)
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From: BRIAN SEVERN Number: 5005
To: ALL Date: 10/02/93 5:24a
Subj: Omni CD-ROM from Creative Labs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello ..... I currently have the panasonic drive that comes with the Sound
Blaster Multimedia Upgrade kit, and I ma fairly satisfied with it. However, I
now see that Creative Labs has their Double Speed CD-ROM drive out (it even
includes Adlus PhotoStyler SE). Is this drive going to give me a noticible
difference???? I see that the access time only drops by about 60 MS. I'm not
to familare with these double speed drives, I do know that you need one to be
MPC Level 2 compliant, but what good does that do me?? Are there any MPC leve
2 software titles out there??
.
Any help would be appreciated......THANKS!
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From: TOM KASHUBA Number: 5006
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/08/93 10:10a
Subj: Quest for Good CD-ROMs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
02 Oct 93 21:12, Gordon Peterson wrote to Tom Kashuba:
GP> @EID:6866 85C20001
TK>> Haven't seen any CD atlas that was worth the cost
TK>> of its CD. .. All I've seen are pathetic, providing only
TK>> crude world or .. continental maps with only 1 or 2 levels
GP> But take a look at the Global Explorer disc, or the US
GP> Street Atlas... both are absolute marvels. Either one is (by
GP> itself) sufficient justification for buying a CD-ROM drive.
Thanks for the comeback. I've heard of US Street Atlas but haven't seen it.
It sounded good. Gald to get your feed back. Didn't hear of Global Explorer -
will check it out. Thanks. -Kash
My latest hassles are with Carmen Santiego Deluxe. Got it for my kid but the
CD-ROM boot once from my Mitsumi drive, setup up correctly but failed to run.
I think I was short on memory. The hassle is, after deleting the startup
directory it created and trying to re-install, the CD-ROM now acts as if it
corrupted. Any EXE on the ROM I run to test now gives "packed file corrupt"
message yet my other CDR apps still run correctly. A strange thought, being a
laser-burned read-only media. Has anyone had this kind of problem, ie, a CD-ROM
seeming to deteriote after be accessed one or twice? Is it possible for a read
laser beam to deteriorate a weekly burnt ron, eg? -Kash
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From: JAMES JOHNSTON Number: 5007
To: DAVE RYDER Date: 10/09/93 7:59a
Subj: Mayo Clinic & OS/2 Refer: NONE
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DR> Relavent equipment includes: 16 meg. 486-33, running OS/2 2.1 with
DR> MMPM, SB Pro Dlx, Mitsumi 005s cd drive using the Noller drivers.
Sorry, no suggestions, but I can tell you it does work at least under my
configuration, 20megs, 486-33, OS/2 2.1, SB 16, Panasonic 562b CDROM using CL
drivers. I just ran the install or setup (can't remember) from within a
Win/OS/2 full screen session....
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From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 5008
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 12:21p
Subj: CREATIVE OMNICD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Has anyone bought the new OmniCD drive by Creative Labs? Thinking of
purchasing one. Appreciate comments good and bad.
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From: MIKE MUNNELLY Number: 5009
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 9:13p
Subj: Lu005s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HI all, I checked my #s on my mitsumi CD and The LU005 has an S on the end
of it. Is this standard? Do I have some kind of weird drive.
THanks
Mike
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From: DWIGHT BRIMLEY Number: 5010
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 8:28p
Subj: CD's FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I HAVE TWO CD'S FOR SALE, BOTH NEW IN THE BOX. MICROSOFT WORD FOR WINDOWS WITH
BOOKSHELF, AND "STAREWARE" AN ADULT CD WITH GRAPHICS AND ANIMATIONS. i WOULD
LIKE TO GET $100 FOR "WORD" AND $25 FOR "STAREWARE" BUT I AM WILLING TO TAKE
OFFERS. LEAVE ME A MESSAGE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
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From: JOHN ERWIN Number: 5011
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 10/04/93 5:50a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can you give me more details on CD-Drive?. Like the Speed.
Does it come with Computer plug-in board?.
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From: JOHN RUIZ Number: 5012
To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 10/08/93 9:38a
Subj: CD_ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JT>===========================================================================
> BBS: Warp Drive BBS
>Date: 10-02-93 (10:15) Number: 764
>From: ERIC RICHARD Refer#: NONE
> To: ALL Recvd: NO
>Subj: CD_ROM's Conf: (205) CDROM
>ER>Hi! I'm looking for good CD_ROM disks to run for my BBS, please leave me
>ER>the info I need to purchase some cd's, thanks.
>ER> Eric Richard
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>ER> * Origin: DomTech OS/2 BBS, Aylmer PQ (819)682-5400 HST/DS (1:243/6)
Eric.....I have for sale CICA Microsoft Windows CDROM August 93.
Purchase last month. I do not run a BBS or a window user.
This cdrom contains hundred of megabytes of MS windows programs,
and is an indispensable resource for any serious MS Windows
user. It is BBS ready. Please reply here if you are interested.
Will sell for $27.90 s/h US fund. Thanks JOHN
* QMPro 1.51 * It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 5013
To: BILL GOCHNOUR Date: 10/08/93 7:26p
Subj: Re: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <10-06-93 00:12> Bill Gochnour wrote:
BG>> I am looking for a quality adult oriented CD. It needs to be bbs
BG>> ready AND have original photos. I do NOT want a disc of files that
BG>> have been scanned from magazines that like to sue people.
Amen ! Busty Babes Vol II is at press now, and distribution will be shipping to
their dealers around the 15th--Its 1,000 original slides licensed to us by the
photographers, BBS ready, The disc is 'XX', soft and lovely. Plus it has an
added 200 MB of shareware as a bonus--An all around BBS disc !
Order from any of the dealers here--
We were a big part of the 'Copyright' problem, but we are now the solution for
the sysops as we stated at BBSCON '93--
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 5014
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 10/09/93 7:03a
Subj: As you can see..... Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Well, don't get too carried away, Arnie (:>. Doing these things can suck up a
*LOT* of otherwise free time (if you do more than just "skate" it). I'm
CERTAIN the shareware buyers out there truly appreciate your efforts. Listen
to them if/when they make suggestions - after all they're your CUSTOMERS now!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 5015
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 9:47p
Subj: C-3 Productions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know how I can contact someone from C-3 Productions through the
net? I sent a check to them about three weeks ago for some CDs, and haven't
heard back from them (I haven't received the check back, either). I was
wondering if it arrived okay.
BTW, they have some of the best prices on CDs I've ever seen. I'm sure I got
their flyer via some kind of contact here...
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 5016
To: BILL WOLFF Date: 10/07/93 2:36p
Subj: SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->1:115/769.2
Bill Wolff wrote
----------------------------------------
>> Microsoft Windows Sound Systems compatible.
>> Sound-Blaster Pro II compatible.
>> AdLib compatible.
>> Disney Sound-Source compatible.
>> Covox Speech-Thing compatible.
>>
>>I guess the first two or three is fairly important. I am not sure
>>what four and five have to offer, so you tell me.
Well, there are many standards out there, each one achieve the same
thing, but some achieve better results. I would say #2, and #3 is the
biggies. Unless you are going get the Windows sound system. Just
hooking it up to windows does not allow you to have this system, you
must purchase it (and think it goes for about $200+). If you want to
listen to windows then the sound blaster compatible and Adlib compatible
will do this. But it is beyond me why someone would listen to the BINGS
and BONGS of opening and closing windows!
>>I have found the Multimedia PRO 16 by AVS Group to include all of
>>the above modes, plus your standard CD-ROM ports. Well I guess there
>>isn't really any standard CD-ROM ports, is there?
Now the CD ROM ports you have to watch. They will only work with
certain types of CD ROMS (the ones that are mentioned in the booklet).
Like my Sound Blaster Pro has a CD ROM but only works with something
like Panasonic CD ROM drives.
In general what you should be looking for is something with expansion
capabilities, you can certainly use, and compatibility (with Adlib and
Sound Blaster).
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 5017
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 10/07/93 3:15p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Russell Hardie wrote
----------------------------------------
>>How would I set my sound buffer higher? The relevant lines of my present
>>CONFIG.SYS are:
>>
>>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,5264 =C:\SB16\DRV\ASP.SYS /P:220
>>DEVICE=C:\SB16\DRV\SBCD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:220 /T:1
>>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,55168 =C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.SYS /Y
Here is my config.sys
LASTDRIVE=Z
BUFFERS=17
FILES=39
DOS=HIGH
DEVICE=c:\qemm\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=c:\qemm\QEMM386.SYS ST:M RAM R:4
device=c:\dos\ansi.sys
DEVICE=c:\qemm\DOS-UP.SYS @c:\qemm\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 /LO C:\SSTORDRV.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DEVSWAP.COM
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\dos\SETVER.EXE
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /p
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \dos\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:40 /T:
the /M:40 in the MTMCDE.SYS (which is my device driver for my CD ROM is
setting the buffer (which also sets your sound buffer). Go through the
setup on your CD ROM software and make sure it does not mention anything
about a cache or buffer for the CD ROM. That should do it...Hope this
clears up any confusion.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: RICHIE REEVES Number: 5018
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 11:02a
Subj: Well, I know about that.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What I would like to ask is if anyone knows how to get the discriptions
to show up on Phoenix 4.0 on BBS...If anyone does it would be most
appreciative...
Pirate
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From: CHARLES ALVIS Number: 5019
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/08/93 5:21p
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sure will let you know when I get the ROMs.
Later
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 5020
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 2:56a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W N I G H T O W L 10
* Over 5,100 NEW Files * Over 647 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0 * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Night Owl 10 " is here and ready for delievery !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and Sept 1st
1993. In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 5021
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 2:56a
Subj: NEW MONSTER CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W M O N S T E R M E D I A 93 I I
* Over 5,000 NEW Files * Over 665 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* 128 pg Manual * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Monster Media 93 II" is here and ready for delievery !!
All programs on this cd were written or updated between May 1st and August
31st 1993. It offers multi-line discriptions as well as supports for
several BBS formats to make installation a breeze!! PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 5022
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 2:56a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 5023
To: ARIE RIETKERK Date: 10/09/93 2:56a
Subj: Re: Hobbes os2 cd version 10/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Yoo All!
>> Does anybody know WHEN and WHERE i can buy the NEW HOBBES OS2
>> shareware cd? The one of 10/93.....NOT the 06/93
>> Thanks in advance!
Yep...we have it in stock for $20. if your interested.
Give us a call anytime at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 5024
To: RICKY SCHULTZ Date: 10/09/93 2:56a
Subj: Re: pioneer cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi there... I was wondering if anyone out there could give me
>> info on the Pioneer DRM-600-A CD-ROM 6 player system... eg
>> approx retail price and what type of SCSI controller card it
>> requires...
>> Thanks in Advance..
>> Ricky
We have the above in stock and thier pricd at $739.US. They use a
standard SCSI controller, so you shouldn't have any problems hooking
one up.
If your interested in any additional information, please feel free to
drop us a line via the fidonet address below and we'll be happy to assist
you further.
And yes, we do ship them anywhere in the world. In fact, a hundred or so to
Australia already.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 5025
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 10/08/93 6:17p
Subj: Re: Apple II/IIgs shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 06 Oct 93 10:06:04, I heard Lon Seidman shout to All:
LS> I'm trying to build up a library of Apple II, and IIgs files for my
LS> bulletin board. I was wondering if anyone knew of a CD-ROM (ISO 9660
LS> compatible) which contains shareware and PD software. Any information
LS> would be appreciated. I'm trying to organize an Apple II on-line user
LS> group. Such a CD would be quite helpful.
Sorry to but it, But you wouldn't know anyone who would like to buy a Great
Apple System would you, It has a Printer, Monitor, Keyboard,Disk Drive, and
TONS of Programs, My friend is selling it, and is Asking $150.00
.....|<evin
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From: MIKE GRIFFIN Number: 5026
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 10/09/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM ANALYZOR Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Russell!
28 Sep 93 18:31, Russell Hardie wrote to Mike Shannon:
RH> Hi Mike,
RH> A while ago (like mid July), you posted this message showing % of
RH> duplicates between popular CD-ROMs. You used a program you refer to as
RH> "CD-ROM DUPLIATE ANALYZOR". I would love to get hold of a copy of this -
If you find a copy, please let the rest of us know!
Thanks,
Mike
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From: MIKE GRIFFIN Number: 5027
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 12:09a
Subj: CD ROM Doors Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I posted a message about a week ago and haven't gotten a reply. I was
interested in CD ROM doors for BBS's. I have ROMBRAIN and would like
to evaluate a few more if they exist before registering it.
Anyone else have a suggestion? I would love to hear about it..
Mike
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 5028
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 10:35a
Subj: Mitsumi w/ROMs for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
.
Mitsumi internal LU-005S (only 1), like new, w/all UPDATED drivers (incl
OS/2). This is the faster of the two Mitsumis currently available, reads
MULTI-SESSION photo CD's, and is fully MPC compliant. I will include a
THREE-DISC set of shareware, with a total of over 20,000 programs. Price:
$210.00 (U.S.), which includes shipping.
I also have a CD-ROM of Photo CD software and images for an additional $25.
Reply in this echo, or by NetMail to 1:141/950.1, or
(voice) 203-746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
203-746-1727 (eves, weekends)
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 5029
To: JAMIE PASSEY Date: 10/08/93 10:43a
Subj: Selling Drive W/Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jamie -
07 Oct 93, Jamie Passey writes to All:
> I would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably cheap (since i don't
> have much $$).. how much does a good drive cost? How much does a CD with
> tons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
See my ad in this echo. Used Mitsumi drive w/3 ROM set of shareware (20,000+
programs) for $210, including shipping. Voice: (203) 746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
- Arnie :+}
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 5030
To: TIM SMITH Date: 10/08/93 10:46a
Subj: Re: Kodak CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tim -
29 Sep 93, Tim Smith writes to All:
> Hey, does anyone know of a Kodak CD you can bye with pictures on it
> already? Kinda like a CD with GIF's but better rez.
I'm selling a copy of Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging Software, which includes
two dozen images. The program allows you to edit and manipulate the images, as
well as save them onto your hard disk (or floppy) in a variety of formats (incl
GIF, BMP, TIFF, TGA, etc). The program runs under OS/2, Windows 3.x or DOS.
See my ad in this echo - I'd prefer to sell it with the Mitsumi drive, but if
the drive goes without it I'll sell it separately.
> "Graphic Artist seeks Boss with vision impairment."
I hear you. <g>
- Arnie
(203) 746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
or 746-1727 (eves, wkends)
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From: CHRIS ZITO Number: 5031
To: ROBERT STEPHENS Date: 10/07/93 5:54p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Robert Stephens to Rowan Evans <=-
RS> I hate Creative Labs myself, for owning a sbpro for over a year and
RS> getting a PAS-16 the difference in sound is phoenominal.
Yes, one of my friends has the PAS-16. It's price/performance exceeds that
of the SB16 considerably! The sound on the PAS-16 is wonderfully crisp and
clear sounding.
RE>
RE> CZ> 4) 3D sound capability
RS> I believe this is called "Enhanced" on the PAS-16, and it sounds
RS> great!
What the PAS-16 is enhanced stereo sound. Focal point 3-d sound is only
available to the GUS.
RS> Hasn't just about every sound card available got this...
Yeah, but it just sounds very bad on most FM cards.
RE>
RE> CZ> 6) SB Software support (thru SBOS, a SB emulation program)
RE>
RE> Native SB Pro and OPL3 drivers... none of this emulation cr*p....
RS> The PAS-16 has Yamaha OPL-3, but only hardware SB (mono) em. Pity it
RS> has this, I feel a lot of games writers dont bother specifically
RS> supporting the PAS-16 and just use the SB emulation, when the PAS-16
RS> is a million times better.
RE> CZ> 7) Native GUS support
RE>
RE> Who wants it??
RS> Agree...
Actually every wavetable card would want it as soon as Sierra, Id, Apogee, and
EPIC release their new "GUS supported" games. The wavetable music will blow
any FM card completely off the sound card market. Remember, there IS NO
support for the WaveBlaster as of yet.
RE> CZ> 8) $199 list price, $129 street price
RE>
RE> Cheap to con suckers like you into buying one.....
RS> Heh, who bought a SB16 ?
Yeah, $349 is alot compared to the PAS-16.
... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 5032
To: BILL WOLFF Date: 10/06/93 5:31p
Subj: Multimedia Pro-16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Originally...
From: BILL WOLFF Refer#: NONE
To: CHRIS ZITO Recvd: NO
Subj: MULTIMEDIA PRO-16 Conf: (79) CDROM
BW>BTW, you know anything about Panasonic 563 CD-ROM drives? What makes
BW>them different than the 562 series?
I believe the 563 is a 562 that's licensed to Creative Labs so they can
bundle them with their multimedia upgade kits, I think.
HIHAL -T-
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 5033
To: MALCOLM WRIGHT Date: 10/08/93 8:37p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mal!
On 10-05-93 Malcolm Wright wrote to Rowan Evans...
MW> Can anyone out there tell me whether the CR-562-B will work under
MW> Os/2.
MW> Wanting to use it for my BBS, and can't afford a mistake. (Running
MW> Maximus/2).
Talk to Poe Lim (he runs OS/2 2.x) and has used the CR562b under OS/2.
Apparently there is a driver on the Creative Pacific BBS (02) 906-8392.
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 5034
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 10/08/93 8:52p
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Chris!
On 10-04-93 Chris Zito wrote to Rowan Evans...
CZ> RE> This is the fourth msg you've posted trashing people who've
CZ> RE> bought/are buying SB 16 cards....
CZ>
CZ> I wrote one message to express my dislike towards those haughty users
CZ> who enjoy bragging about their wonderful SB16's. People who don't act
CZ> that way should not be offended at all. <G>
No offense taken, but this is the CD-ROM support echo.... I advise people
who want a single slot sound & CD-ROM host solution to look at SB 16 or
PAS 16. As the SB 16 supports my favoured Panasonic CR562b/CR563 CD-ROM
drive, I normally suggest it... If the person really wants SCSI, I'm
quite happy to suggest the PAS 16... As the GUS falls outside this
bracket, I don't really consider it as a solution.....
If people are after a better/best sound card soution, they sould lurk
in the sound card echo.... <g>
As I wrote in an earlier msg to Robert Stephens (slightly paraphrased) :-
I stand behind my reasons for purchase of it, as it does what I want
it to do :-
1. Provide support for my Panasonic CR562b CD-ROM drive.
2. Provide a single-slot sound/CD-ROM control solution.
3. Provide 100% native SB Pro 2 (OPL3) and SB support
4. Provide 16 bit playback/record sound.
These reasons are in order of priority... So whilst I admit that its
not the absolute best sound card on the market, its the one for me!
Quoting Chris Zito from another msg -=>
CZ> RE> uncertain memory.... As to speakers, true... I'm still looking
CZ> RE> for a decent set!
CZ>
CZ> Labtec makes some pretty good speakers.
Yes, I loved the CS550s that came with a MediaVision Fusion CD16 kit....
Too bad I had to pass them to the mate that bought this kit from me!
And I have been unable to locate an Australian source for them!
CZ> Note: I am not demeaning SB16 users. I'm just promoting a cheaper and
CZ> what I think is a better alternative, the Gravis Ultrasound.
Its an alternative for those who are willing & able to use two slots, one
for sound and the other for CD-ROM support....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 5035
To: JERRY CORNELIUS Date: 10/08/93 9:06p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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Hi Jerry!
On 10-03-93 Jerry Cornelius wrote to Ashwin Bihari...
JC> I have the same setup as you except mine is an SBpro. Seventh
JC> Guest runs fine here *out of the box*. I use a boot disk to make
JC> sure that there are no TSRs and that I have plenty of memory
JC> available, but haven't changed any configurations.
I'm running T7G here in a system crammed with drivers! <g>
How?
QEMM 7.02!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 5036
To: WALTER CHISENSKI Date: 10/08/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
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Hi Walter!
On 10-05-93 Walter Chisenski wrote to Corey Biccum...
WC> Yeah, if you take up the room on your video card the
WC> game will run pretty slow. I know a guy down at a local
WC> shop here who says he runs The 7th Guest on a 256K video
WC> card. He says it works, but does run slow.
He's also using only MCGA mode!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 5037
To: LEE BAILEY Date: 10/08/93 9:17p
Subj: 2x CD Searches -- too sl Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Lee!
On 10-05-93 Lee Bailey wrote to All...
LB> Has anyone out there tried Lightning CD or one of the CD caches?
Yup! Norton SpeedCache (since renamed SpeedDrive) Version 4.0.
LB> My drive : SB16 kit w/Matsushita (Panasonic) double speed drive
LB> 300kb data transfer rate, access time something like 350ms
Make that 320ms...
LB>
LB> My question : I am currently searching a CD for un-indexed data, which
LB> means that depending on several factors, the program will
LB> have to search the entire CD (680 megs?). Doing this sort
LB> of search is extremely time consuming, and it would be even
LB> if I were searching a hard drive of that size. In a worst
LB> case scenario, the CD takes several hours (I'm guessing from
LB> 4 to 6 hours), and I just cannot afford to tie up my PC for
LB> that long.
LB>
LB> Is a CD cache the answer?
Sorry, but no. The reason? A cache works on re-using "frequently accessed
data", ie an index.. Most caches won't even do much of a read-ahead. The
spectacular gains made by some caches are inrealistic in that there was
(CD Speedway) a 32Mb cache size used for the sample tests (CD Speedway
may, then do *SOME* read-ahead buffering)... Norton's SpeedCache does a
"benchmark" by measuring a "simulated indexed retrieval".
Maybe your best bet is to locate a piece of indexing software.... What are
you trying to search?? Free-form text?? I have seen a package in Australia
(ISYS) that indexes WP files (various formats) and may just do what you
are looking for....
LB> I am also wondering how much conventional memory one of
LB> these caching programs uses (from what I understand, they
LB> replace SMARTDRV altogether, right)?
Depends on several factors. Number of drives (of all types) and high memory
available.... SpeedCache has been working fine for me for the last three
months, cacheing FDD, HDD and CD-ROM.....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: MICHAEL JACOB Number: 5038
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/08/93 12:49a
Subj: Re: windows or dos Refer: NONE
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Deppends if its behaves in a windows envioronment..etc
obviously more games in excess of 550k would be more typically
be run in dos but i have had some success in windows using PIF
just go beserk with HELP in PIF AND USE -1 FOR MEMORY OK
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 5039
To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 10/07/93 11:24a
Subj: Panasonic CR562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Stean Snyman, In a message on <Oct 01>, you said :
SS> PS.. Did you ever get a reply in here? I tried several
SS> times as well, but it seems as if I can read the area, but
SS> not send.. :-((
Not true.
Your message arrived here ok.
Laurie
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From: JOHN KELLY Number: 5040
To: KEVIN MARTIN Date: 10/07/93 1:58p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I repair these things for a living, and over the years
> I've seen quite a few damaged disks caused by lack of care. Many
> people think that data disks are just like audio disks, they'll
> take them out of the player and set them down on the desktop. . .
Hi Kevin.
Just curious as to whether you've seen the following circumstance, and have any
remedies for it.
I've got the SBPRO multimedia upgrade, and over the last few months, it's
developed a hick-up. I've had it for about 18 months.
When the machine is first booted, it has no problems reading the CD-ROM at all.
Usually, after some comms session, I get the error CDR101: Not ready reading
drive I:. Occasionally, ejecting the disk and reinserting will fix it.
On a re-boot, it comes good again - What's more embarassing is that it is used
on my BBS.
Any hints greatly appreciated..
Regards,
John
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5041
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 4:24p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Seriously, after looking around, I'm *ALMOST* convinced to buy a sma
RE> boom-box with line-in so that I can connect a *REAL* set of speakers
I don't know if this would be such a good idea, because the SB16 does
not have a line-level (ie: non amplified) output. Many of the latest
soundcards now have an amplified line-out for use with unpowered
speakers, and a non-amplified or line-level output for conection to a
serious amp, and powered speakers. Now here's the problem, when you
connect an amp up to an amplified output it amplifies all of the noise,
static, RFI, from your computer, making hi-fidelity digital sounds
impossible, (ie: the SNR-signal noise ratio- rises to unacceptable
levels). There maybe a modification you can perform on the SB to bypass
the on board amp, and thus make the output line-level. Or there may even
be a utility program that can do this in software. I don't know.
Amplification is definitely the go however, I have my line-level hooked
up to a shelf size Sony amp+stereo, and hefty speakers. Advantages are
abundant, such as easy volume control (remote), easy tape recording of
output.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5042
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 10/07/93 4:40p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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MC> I hear that the sequel is in the making, and will appear on the new
MC>system. No doubt it will also make it's way to the PC at the same tim
All I know is that it is supposed to be called "The 11th Hour".
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 5043
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 11:26p
Subj: Mitsumi FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM drive for sale with interface, cables,
software, and all docs. It is model LU005S. Specs: 350 msec acess time,
150kb transfer rate. Drive has less than two hours of run time on it. I
am asking $165.00 and I will pay shipping. If interested leave me a
message here or phone me 804-744-3480.
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From: ROEL SARCENO Number: 5044
To: JOHN WILKINSON Date: 10/08/93 4:35p
Subj: HACKERS CHRONICLES Refer: NONE
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Hello John,
-> IF You are trying to install a CD for the frist time and running
-> WildCats 3.X you can do this go into makewild and to files area and
-> the Area Just like you wood do like any other area
Nope, it's not my first time. I just tring to avoid adding files that
doesn't have ready made descriptions.
Roel
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From: RON AGUIAR Number: 5045
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/08/93 5:00p
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm glad to see you got the check. Looking forward to trying the new CD.
I will let you know when I get it!
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From: TONY SIMMONS Number: 5046
To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 10/08/93 6:35a
Subj: cd games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LS> XXXDoes anybody know if the cd game Rebel Assault is shipping yet?
LS> +-------------------------------+
LS> Not yet. I believe it will ship sometime in early November (hopefully
LS> :) )
LS> ___
Hi Lon..
thanks for the reply..you wouldnt know how much it is selling for would you?
And if its amer$$$?
Tony
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From: ED YEE Number: 5047
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/08/93 6:23p
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM DRIVE. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Terry Menzies <=-
TM> I called him for specs etc and they follow......
TM>
TM> Panasonic 562
TM> Internal
TM> Double speed
TM> Kodak Multi Session
TM> Transfer rate=300kb/s
TM> Access time=320 ms
TM> 680-690 capacity
TM>
TM> Note that he called it **562**, Would those specs fit the Cr-562-b?
TM> The Drive requires an $50 controller card to work with the SB-Pro,
TM> or it will work via direct CD-Drive -> Amplifier if no SB is there.
RE>
RE> Panasonic's brochure calls it a CR562 series, their manual for the
RE> drive calls it a CR562B.... The spex you have stated are exactly the
RE> same as those for the CR562B, so I'd guess he's just being lazy! As
RE> to requiring an additional card to work with the SB Pro/16/16 ASP....
RE> that's bullsh*t... the CR562B will attach directly to the SB
RE> Pro/16/16 ASP... What it *DOES* require is a $A50.00 "controller" if
RE> you *DON'T* have an SB Pro/16/16 ASP!
RE> Ask the dealer again whether it is a CR562B.....
I am selling my CD-ROM drive and getting this one next week. Is this a
real mutispin ? What I mean is that is this a re-run of Cyrix and their
486 chips ? Can I trust the fact that I will get 300kb/s transfer almost
always and NOT only under certain conditions ? With that interface thing,
I called some local retailers up here in Calgary. A few said that drive
did include the interface card (drive and interface card only). Some others
said that it did not come with a controller card, and one other said that
the package came with a SB imitation that acted as the controller. Which
is true ?
... Ya canna be sayin tha I speak wi a accent, can ya?-Scotty
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 5048
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 10/07/93 7:37p
Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
03 Oct 93 14:10, Ashwin Bihari wrote to Kerry Archer:
AB> WEll Kerry I don't know what to say, actually now after upgrading my SB
AB> 2.0 to GUS I got a lot of problems, the digitized sound get cut off and
AB> the music doesn't sound the same anymore and infact the game hung up on
Switching from one piece of equipment to another which does not work is not an
"UPgrade".
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From: ANDREW PAGE Number: 5049
To: JAMES SMITH Date: 10/08/93 3:53p
Subj: Door Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JS> Could you send in to register the Time Bank it says it is
JS> FREE!
I already did a few months ago, but when I upgraded it to a new version, the
registration code was lost. So I netmailed him and asked, but he didn't ever
reply... so, oh well!
AJP
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From: ANDREW PAGE Number: 5050
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/08/93 3:54p
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GP> ...even here in France, too. :-)
Oh no! I'm sorry... I didn't know that it went international. So how are
things in France?
AJP
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From: FRANKIE RUIZ Number: 5051
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 8:01a
Subj: Sony BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Sony CDU-535, and I've been wanting to upgrade to OS/2, but
I've heard that OS/2 doesn't have the drivers for it and that I have to get
them from either Sony or a third party. Does anyone have the number for Sony's
technical support BBS?
Thanks,
Frankie Ruiz
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 5052
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 10/07/93 9:25p
Subj: Re: PKZIP 2.04G AND TEXEL CD Refer: NONE
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NR> I've got a really different problem that maybe somebody has experienced
NR> before. What happens is that if I use PKZIP 2.04 G to try to unzip any fil
NR> on my TEXEL DM-3024 internal drive, my computer does a cold boot! Anybody
NR> ever heard of this? The files
NR> can be unzipped if I copy them to the hard drive first without problems. O
NR> when I unzip from the CD is there a problem. On older disks I can use pkun
NR> 1.1 or whatever the older version is, buthis is pretty unusual.
NR> I have almost cleared all config.sys commands and some of the Autoexec.bat
NR> commands to see if this solves the problem. I need some help.
NR> any suggestions? Anyone??
Hmm...I have a texel3024 and have no trouble. I've unzipped lots of stuff
from CD. Do you have a new MSCDEX? I'm using my texel on an Adaptec
board...MSCDEX with DOS 6..
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 5053
To: MARKUS GOEBEL Date: 10/08/93 9:24p
Subj: Pioneer 6 Stack Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG> I'm currently looking to buy a Pioneer 6-Stack CD-
MG> ROM drive (not sure whether
MG> it'll be the normal one or the Quad-Spin, depends
MG> on price). If anyone out
MG> there knows of any good deals going in either
MG> Australia or the US please
MG> reply in this echo or via Netmail. For prices ex
MG> USA, is the drive available
MG> with 240v/50hz power supply?
The 600A is ok for BBS use....we sell the drive alone now for $689 and the
drive with controller for $769. They are switchable 110v/220v. Fax us an
order if interested at 615-479-1047 or call our BBS at 615-478-2890. This
price reflects a 3% cash discount and does not include shipping.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 5054
To: RICKY SCHULTZ Date: 10/08/93 9:26p
Subj: pioneer cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> Hi there... I was wondering if anyone out there
RS> could give me info on the Pioneer DRM-600-A CD-ROM
RS> 6 player system... eg approx retail price and what
RS> type of SCSI controller card it requires...
It is a 600ms access rate with 150kb transfer and about 5-7 sec. index rate.
We sell it cash price for $689 bare or $769 with controller. The controller
kit is a Future Domain TMC850MER 8 bit card and a 25 to 50 pin SCSI
cable......fax us at 615-479-1047 or call our bbs at 615-478-2890 if you would
like to order one.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 5055
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/08/93 9:31p
Subj: OKLAHOMA BBS BUST Refer: NONE
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BF> You would be wise to STUDY the situation before you
BF> insert your foot in your
BF> mouth in public again....
Which all can do by reading Boardwatch Magazine....<g>.
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From: KEVIN DONALD Number: 5056
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/08/93 1:37a
Subj: 16-BIT SOUND CARDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry, I'm not much into games, but I'm more into demos/shareware games that
Epic Megagames produces. You do however have to say that it does have some
GREAT sound when the Gravis itself is used and not in Soundblaster emulation
mode.
PAS-16, SB-16 don't offer much different options than a Soundblaster does. The
Gravis, is a different story. I promot Gravis all the way because I think it's
the sound card most PC hobbyists are going to choose.
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 5057
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 6:06p
Subj: t7Guest Soundtrack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This is to all you owners of The 7th Guest by Trilobyte, and no,
it's not about the game not working in my system -- it does,
flawlessly (386DX40).
As you may know, disc 2 has a pair of audio tracks which amount
to full-length sound-tracks from the game. The Fat Man's music
is as good as the animation in this one, and I look forward to
hearing it complete.
But my stereo's cd player plays silence for the duration of the
first track, then jumps into the second track with full volume.
I don't see how my player could be responsible, so it seems that
the first track on my disc is silent (it plays, counts up, etc,
but there is no sound until it hits track 2).
Is this the way it is with your audio cd too or am I the only one
to suffer in this way?
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From: DANNY NELSON Number: 5058
To: SOL-LOTARR Date: 10/07/93 10:07a
Subj: CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SXHi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which CD-Rom is
Xcompatable with the card...I appreicate any help on the subject. BTW I am
Xlooking for something under $350 but am willing to pay more. Bye
Shop around SB makes one for their card, that will plug right in.
$350 should get it for you.
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X OLX 3.01 31-1687 X Why is the sun never overhead at noon?
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 5059
To: FERDINAND MATARAGNON Date: 10/07/93 10:07a
Subj: Does SB have scsi? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FM>Hi all! I would like to know if CL has released Sound Blasters with an scsi
FM>of getting a Panasonic 562 or 563 cdrom drive to plug in to
FM>a SBPro. Would that setup work with os/2? How about the new
FM>CL Discovery 16 kit? The one that has the new omni cd
All of CL listed below will run under Dos, Windows. For OS/2 you need
to call CL to download drivers.
Sound Blaster 16 MCD W/ASP and SCSI Controller build in........$229.
Wave Blaster adapter card for SB 16............................$195
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $375.
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$449
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 5060
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 10/07/93 10:07a
Subj: Sb compatible cd-rom:s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>Can anyone give me a complete list of CD-ROM drives that are compatible
TT>with Soundblaster cards. This means drives that can be controlled by SB:s
The listed CDROM will run with direct with SB Pro build in controller.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
For international customer, I can ship freight collect via UPS.
You can send bank draft with US dollar just for the parts. UPS will
collect the freight with you when it arrive.
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 5061
To: JAMIE PASSEY Date: 10/07/93 10:07a
Subj: CD-Rom prices Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JP>I would like to purchase a CD-ROM drive, preferably cheap (since i don't
JP>have much $$).. how much does a good drive cost? How much does a CD with
JP>tons of shareware on it cost..? Does anyone have a used drive?
Night Owl Shareware v.9.........$35 Ocean Digital Imagery ver. 1....$35
PC-SIG Sharewares 12th Edition..$29 PC-SIG sharewares games.........$19*
So much Shareware Disk II or I..$19* Shareware overload..............$19*
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $169
Mitsumi CDROM+Sound Galaxy NX Pro card.........................$279
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
There is $10 for shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 5062
To: SOL-LOTARR Date: 10/07/93 10:07a
Subj: CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SO>Hi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which CD-Rom is
The CDROM below will work with your SB Pro
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $169
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
Creative Lab Omni CDROM SR-562 + software+ controller........$319.
There is $10 for shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: LARRY RUPERT Number: 5063
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/09/93 9:09p
Subj: LOOKING FOR THESE CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
MS> Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
Mike, I am interested in purchasing several CD's. I'd like the Night
Owl Graphics Vol 1, Corel Artshow 2, and PCGlobe 4.0 if it's the newest
version available. Got any of 'em and how much? Thanks. Larry
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From: LARRY RUPERT Number: 5064
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/09/93 9:12p
Subj: LOOKING FOR THESE ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, I am looking for the following CD rom disks. Night Owl Graphics
Vol 1, Corel Artshow 2, and PCGlobe 4.0 (if it is the newest version).
Got any of them...and how much? Thanks. Larry
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 5065
To: ANDREW LARMOUR Date: 10/07/93 6:38p
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AL> I spoke to a Brittanica salesman a few months ago here in
AL>Melbourne Australia, and he said "It is available on two CD-
AL>ROM's but he wasnt sure of the price since they hadnt had
AL>much call for it..."
About the only reason I could see for little call for it would be that
they haven't advertised it, or it doesn't exist yet.
Boris, Mike, anyone care to give a dealers comment on the availability
of THE Encyclopedia Brittanica on CD-ROM?
AL>Personally, I rekon it would be a fantastic reference to
AL>have on my desk at home...
A big YA to that. I'd consider it the best excuse for two CD drives
that I've heard yet.
AL>Regards from The Great Southern Land...
Funny, I couldn't tell by the accent. ;-)
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From: JOE RINEHART Number: 5066
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 12:10a
Subj: Used Computer EEquipment Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
COMPUTER'S, HARDWARE, & STUFF SALE NOTICE!
We have several XT and AT class rebuilt computer systems available
for sale.
The XT machine minimum standards include:
IBM case, 8088 motherboard, 360k floppy drive, monochrome video, and
keyboard for $200 or best offer.
The AT machine minimum standards include:
IBM case, 80286 motherboard, 720k floppy drive, monochrome video, and
keyboard for $300 or best offer.
Zenith Data Systems Laptop Computer, Model zfl-181-93, dual 720k
floppy system. Battery Pack, charger, external 360k floppy, $600 or best
offer.
Zenith 8088 dual 360k floppy systems, monitor, keyboard, case for
$200 or best offer. Approx (10) available. These are very clean machines.
TAPES:
81 used, 3 new, DC300xl Scotch Data Cartridges $15 each, or
best offer. These tapes were used for backups at a major university and have
not been bulk erased and are sold without warranty as is. Give an offer for
the Lot!
DAISY WHEEL PRINTER(S):
Panasonic kx-p3151-02 sn#4iqafa05148 $50 or b/o
1-Diablo f33 sn# 130831 sheet feeder w/4 paper trays $50 or b/o
1 Diablo 630 sn# 154733 $50 or b/o
Assort Print.wheels & Ribbons for the Diablo 630
1 Lanier 1600-l sn# 14304729 w/tray feeder $50 or b/o
2 Misc. Paper racks
MISC. HARDWARE:
1 Televideo Monitor sr#40206818 w/cards missing b/o
3 Televideo Terminals (no boards.) b/o
1 Kensington P-Muffler 80 Mod# 62250 $15 or b/o
1 Aquarius Mode 931 sr# rh0109823 w/f-supply&tv adapter. b/o
1 Olivetti editor 4 b/o
1 fellowes copy stand $30 or b/o
1 IBM PC case ( empty) sn# 10426135150 (mod. 5150) $10 or b/o
1 Aquarius miniexpander mod #4063 sr#rhp41434 (see above) b/o
SOFTWARE:
PC-Tools ver. 7 $50.00 or b/o
WordPerfect Library ver.2 $100 or b/o
WordPerfect Office (LAN) ver.3.0 $250 or b/o
TaxCut (92 final edition) $5.00
Dac Easy 4.1 Accounting $100 or b/o
Dac Easy 4.1 Payroll $75 or b/o
Mace Utilities Ver. 5 $50 or b/o
CD-ROM Disc's:
Microshelf Bookshelf $10.00
VGA Spectrum $20.00
No reasonable offers refused!
Shipping terms: Purchaser pays shipping! U.P.S., C.O.D., under 2 lbs
Priority Mail.
For further information contact:
Joe Rinehart
5400 Lakewood Road
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
Voice: (216) 296-9831
Voice/messages/fax: (216) 297-1332
Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881
Data/fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 "The Blue Parrot RBBS"
FidoNet: 1:157/479
KesherNet: 18:711/176
RBBSNet: 8:965/13
WWIVNet: 2@2659
... Looking out my office & wishing I were sailing Lake Hodgson:)
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 5067
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/24/93 3:07p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message (off topic) to Gordon Peterson, you included the remark:
TT> Even Americans need foreign characters (for them) once in a while
TT> for example when writing some names of foreign origin.
While I don't need them very often, the various characters used in
international text files, (I don't like the pejorative-sounding word
"foreign"), can easily be keyed in with MOST editors with the ALT key and the
decimal values on the numeric keypad. For instance, ALT-130 gets me , and
ALT-164 gets me . Other symbols available run the gamut from to , and
everything in between. I don't use them all the time, but in my international
work, I may use them of the time. Experiment a bit, and see for yourself. I'm
using DOS, your mileage may vary.
I'm aware that a few Fido systems go berserk with such characters, and find
comments to me about my use of these proper symbols to be annoying.
Getting back to the topic, I don't want/need the unnecessary expense or bother
of caddies on any of my systems, either.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
* DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Eternal hostility against every form of tyranny.
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 5068
To: SCOTT WHARY Date: 10/02/93 8:21a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CADDYS/PROGRAMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I got 10 cd caddys fro Better Business Sysyems, Van nuys, CA 91409...
>10 caddys were $39.90 + 8.80 freight...that's $3.99 each..
$39.90
+ $ 8.80
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$48.70 for 10 disks, right?
If you paid only $3.99 for each one, who paid for the freight?
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From: JOE RINEHART Number: 5069
To: ALL Date: 10/04/93 5:40p
Subj: CD-ROM Distributer Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-ROM DISTRIBUTORS WANTED!
We are looking for CD-ROM distributors to sell their disc's to us
for resale. We would like to add to our present 766 titles.
Thanks in advance!
Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart
1:157/479@fidonet
Data/Fax (216) 296-4446
Voice: (216) 296-9831
... Written while sailing Lake Hodgson, 2 miles east of K.S.U.
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From: JOE RINEHART Number: 5070
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 2:38p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have a total of 766 titles available from our distributer. These
are a few that we've made available at budget prices to introduce ourselves.
CD-ROM DISC'S NEW:
Category Key:
a = Adult mi = Misc.
h = Hardware mu = Music
bu = Business pr = Programming
cl = Clip Art re = Resource
ed = Educational sh = Shareware
en = Entertainment tr = Travel
li = Library ut = Utilities
Disclaimer: We take every precaution NOT to sell adult rom disc's to anyone
under the age of twenty one! For those that are above 21 we apologize, for
any inconvenience. No C.O.D.'s on any adult title. Please allow up to 2
weeks for delivery.
1001 Utilities sh 19.00
101 Sex Positions #1 a 39.00
101 Sex Positions #2 a 39.00
5.25" Disk Drive Cleaning Kits h 7.00
Adult Palette a 32.00
After Dark Trilogy a 39.00
Amateur Model a 32.00
America's Premier Shareware sh 19.00
American Business Phone Book bu 19.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes) a 33.00
Animation Festival a 32.00
Audio Cable Toshiba h 8.50
Bibles and Religion re 9.98
Business Assistant bu 19.00
Busting Out/vivid Digital a 38.00
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new! a 33.00
CD Caddies mi 5.00
CD Jewel Cases mi 1.50
CD ROM Multi-Media Magazine re 2.70
CICA Microsoft windows sh 19.00
Cafe Flesh a 39.98
Clip Art Goliath cl 9.98
Clip Art Heaven cl 19.00
Complete Bookshop li 9.98
Complete Home & Office Legal Guide cl 9.98
Computer Reference Library cl 9.98
Cookbook Heaven re 19.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles en 9.98
Debbie Does Dallas a 39.00
Deep Throat a 39.00
Dictionaries & Language re 9.98
Digital Dreams a 31.00
Encyclopedia of Sound mu 9.98
Exotic Girls a 30.00
Extreme Delight (adult CD) a 32.00
Fontmaster I cl 9.98
Kama Sutra a 50.00
Kodak Photo CD Software cl 19.00
Laser Printer Companion OEM ut 19.00
Local Girls a 29.50
Lovely Ladies II a 38.00
MLT l68T Earphones h 4.00
Media Box CD Storage Cases h 18.00
Mother of Clip Art cl 19.00
Mystic of the Orient a 49.00
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM a 7.00
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM a 7.00
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1 a 39.00
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2 a 39.00
Original Shareware l992 sh 9.98
Our Solar System re 9.98
PC Sig Games en 10.00
Phoenix 3.0 sh 9.98
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks a 34.98
QRZ Ham Radio sh 19.00
Rimfire Pacific Video a 39.00
Rom Material OEM Vision cl 19.00
Seedy Movies a 39.00
Sennheiser Earphone Set h 7.00
Shareware Heaven sh 19.00
Shareware Overload sh 9.98
Simtel 20 pr 19.00
Smutware a 30.00
Software Vault II sh 19.00
Sound Sensations mu 9.98
Southern Beauties a 38.00
Sprite pr 19.00
Super CD II sh 19.00
Super Clipart cl 8.00
Surfs up! a 30.00
Swimwear 1993 a 30.00
Technotools pr 9.98
The Complete Cookbook re 9.98
To Many Typefonts cl 9.98
Traci, I Love You. a 39.00
Tropical Girls a 30.00
Windoware sh 9.98
Women of Venus a 28.00
World Traveller tr 9.98
CD-ROM DISC'S (USED):
VGA Spectrum $20.00 or B/O
Microshelf Bookshelf $10.00 (SOLD)
Hot Pix 3 $35.00 or B/O
Storm II $35.00 or B/O
Battle Chess $15.00 or B/O
PC Gameroom $15.00 or B/O
The Wiz-Pak 6-pak $15.00 or B/O
So Much Shareware 2 $15.00 or B/O
OtherWare 1 $25.00 or B/O
Asian Ladies $35.00 or B/O
No reasonable offers refused!
Shipping terms: Purchaser pays shipping! U.P.S., C.O.D., under 2 lbs
Priority Mail.
For further information contact:
Joe Rinehart
5400 Lakewood Road
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
Voice: (216) 296-9831
Voice/messages/fax: (216) 297-1332
Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881
Data/fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 "The Blue Parrot RBBS"
FidoNet: 1:157/479
KesherNet: 18:711/176
RBBSNet: 8:965/13
WWIVNet: 2@2659
... Written while sailing Lake Hodgson, 2 miles east of K.S.U.
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 5071
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 10/05/93 8:20a
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I agree with Joe, after all, CD ROMs are the very foundation of Multimedia.
>Without their amazing storage capacity there would not be Multimedia as we
>know it. I too think that multimedia should officially be incorporated in
>this echo.
I disagree. Multimedia is much more than just CD-ROMs. You don't
_need_ a CD-ROM to do multi-media. A company could send their presentation
to their customers compressed on a floppy. It would then be un-compressed
onto the hard drive during installation.
Yes, a lot of M/M is on CD-ROM. But it doesn't _have_ to be. If a
person is into M/M and has a problem with his CD-ROM drive/disk, then he can
jump to this echo until his problem is resolved. (Of course they would be
welcome to stay if they wanted to.)
But that's my $0.02 worth.
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From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 5072
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/06/93 8:48a
Subj: Re: Return to Zork Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Does anyone know if Return to Zork will be coming out on cd-rom?
Doesn't seem to be comming on a CD-ROM, but here are the system
requirements:
386 recommended
VGA required
Sound card required
580-600k free RAM
DOS 5.0 or higher
Hard drive with 23 mb free
XMS/EMS supported
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5073
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 10/07/93 12:25p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to receive your catalog
Thanks in advance
Paulo A. Richart
R. Silvia, 541
S.Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRASIL
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Mandic BBS
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E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5074
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: A Few Cd Titles . . . . . Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
I would like to receive a complete catalogue.
Paulo A. Richart
R. Silvia, 541
Sao Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRAZIL
fax.: (55 11) 453-3205
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Mandic BBS
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E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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-> 7th Guest.....................39.00 Middle East Diary............
-> Beauty and the Beast..........32.50 Night Owl 9.0................
-> Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50 Night Owl 10.0 (Pre-orders)..
-> Bible Library.................28.50 Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak.........
-> CD Winbox.....................25.50 Night Owl Graphics (New!)....
-> C User's Group Library........31.00 OS/2Box (Pre-orders).........
-> Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00 PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics)....
-> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to
-> 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS O
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5075
To: DWIGHT BRIMLEY Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: Cd'S For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I HAVE TWO CD'S FOR SALE. TOO MUCH STAREWARE (ADULT GIFS & ANIMATIONS
-> 500MEGS) AND MICROSOFT WORD WITH BOOKSHELF. BOTH ARE NEW IN THE BOX.
-> LIKE TO GET $25 FOR THE STAREWARE AND $100 FOR MICROSORFT WORD. LEAVE
-> MESSAGE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. THANKS.
I am.
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E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5076
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
Send to:
Paulo A. Richart
Rua Silvia, 541
Sao Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRAZIL
Fax.: (55 11) 453-3205
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5077
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: Cd-Rom Source Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to receive a complete catalogue.
Paulo A. Richart
R. Silvia, 541
Sao Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRAZIL
Fax.: (55 11) 453-3205
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Paulo Richart
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Paulo A. Richart
Mandic BBS
Sao Paulo
Brasil
E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
________________________________________________________________________
-> Canada's CD-ROM Source is...
-> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
-> 6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
-> 306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
-> VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
-> New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
-> --- The Mail Box [NR]
-> * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 6 ■ E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5078
To: SAM BECKWWITH Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: Cd-Roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> SB> DFW Discount Electronics 09/27/93 Orders: 800-829-03
-> SB> BBS: 214-259-4188 Local : 214-254-03
-> SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS Ready)..............................$32.
-> SB> NIGHT OWL BUSINESS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$30.
-> SB> NIGHT OWL GAMES ROM (10/93, BBS Ready).......................$22.
-> SB> NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS ROM (8/93, BBS Ready).....................$27.
-> SB> SHAREWARE EXPLORER (9/93, BBS Ready) 4 CD combo..............$45.
-> SB> SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready)........................$25.
-> SB> SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD (9/93,BBS Ready)FILES.BBS & SFFILES.BBS..$24.
I would like a complete catalogue.
Paulo A. Richart
Rua Silvia, 541
Sao Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRAZIL
Fax.: (55 11) 453-3205
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Mandic BBS
Sao Paulo
Brasil
E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5079
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: Cds' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, please send a catalog of your CDs'
Paulo A. Richart
Rua Silvia, 541
Sao Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRAZIL
Fax.: (55 11) 453-3205
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Mandic BBS
Sao Paulo
Brasil
E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
________________________________________________________________________
■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 6 ■ E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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From: PAULO RICHART Number: 5080
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 8:58p
Subj: Nautilus Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does someone knows the NAUTILUS magazine in CD ????
Paulo A. Richart
Rua Silvia, 541
Sao Caetano - SP
09560-530
BRAZIL
Fax.: (55 11) 453-3205
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Paulo A. Richart
Mandic BBS
Sao Paulo
Brasil
E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
________________________________________________________________________
■ RM 1.0 ■ Eval Day 6 ■ E-Mail : paulo.richart@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 5081
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 10/09/93 12:43a
Subj: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS AND PU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************
-> I recently opened a CD-ROM store in the Whittier, CA area and now
NB> Marcial what is your voice phone # I have 300+ wholsale titles and one
NB> exclusively "L.A. Strippers". I'd like to call you.
NB> Thanks, Neil Bergman
NB> (310) 652-2858
NB> * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 9 * RoboMail -- Version 1.0 -- Available now!
NB> --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 10-18-93
NB> * Origin: Compu-Net * 310-822-0038 * SoCal's Largest (1:102/523)
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 5082
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 12:51a
Subj: Matsushita CR-521 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
cAN SOMEONE quote me a price + shipping for a Matsoshita CR-521
CDrom drive w/drovers,etc to OCALA,FLORIDA,USA?
THANX!
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* Origin: Gargoyle's Place,OCALA,FLORIDA,USA * (904) 236-2320 - 16.8K
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From: GARRETT GARCIA Number: 5083
To: RICK GRAF Date: 10/09/93 9:24p
Subj: Re: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send me one of those catalogs. My address is:
2603 Baytree Court
Panama City, Fl
32405
Thank you.
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* Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (904)286-5575 (1:3608/25)
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From: GEERT VAN OOSTERWIJCK Number: 5084
To: RONALD KEENEY Date: 10/05/93 11:53a
Subj: 2 or More Mitsumi's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ronald,
Ronald Keeney wrote in a message to All:
RK> Has anyone ran 2 or more Mitsumi ROMS on a system.
RK> If anyone has been running more than 1, on their bbs, I
RK> should would like to know their setup.
CONFIG.SYS :
DEVICE = C:\DOS\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /M:10 /I:10 /P:300 /T:S /A:0 DEVICE
= C:\DOS\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD002 /M:10 /I:11 /P:320 /T:S /A:0
AUTOEXEC.BAT :
C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /m:4
Don't forget to update the port address/IRQ settings for your system...
Route 2U later,
Geert
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From: RICK POTTS Number: 5085
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/09/93 8:11a
Subj: Encarta... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> On 09-28-93 Neil Ripston wrote to Rick Potts...
RE>
RE> NR> RP> That's a $250 program he's selling....Not a $49 one.
RE> NR> And I must say a great!! program. I wonder why he's selling it.
RE>
RE> Maybe he saw/bought a copy of Software Toolworks/Groliers? <g>
Rowan:
Actually, I bought the Software Toolworks/Groliers encyclopedia (from
Kirk Jensen) when I couldn't justify the price difference between it and
Encarta. Software Toolworks is a fine program, and from the tone of your
note I guess I didn't give up much in the way of quality as I saved the
$200 U.S. additional that Encarta would have cost. <g>
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From: WALTER CHISENSKI Number: 5086
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/09/93 7:04p
Subj: Re: 7th guest? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I thought the game was done well. It isn't
the greatest game out there by far, but it does show what is poss. with the
power of CD-ROM. Let me know how you like King's Quest..
Walter Chisenski
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* Origin: The Lighthouse BBS Scottsdale,AZ (602)946-6228 (1:114/292)
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From: TERRY BARR Number: 5087
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/09/93 4:30p
Subj: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD ROM DRIVERS FOR SONY 535 AND MITSUMI AVAILABLE - 203-295-0710
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* Origin: Info-Link (1:320/73)
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From: BJORN HJALMARSSON Number: 5088
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/09/93 10:02a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Boris!
06 Oct 93 02:46, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:
BO> A L L N E W N I G H T O W L 10
BO> * Over 5,100 NEW Files * Over 647 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
BO> * No Dupes To v9.0 * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
BO> The ALL NEW "Night Owl 10 " is here and ready for delievery !! All
BO> programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and Sept 1st
BO> 1993. In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In
addition,
BO> N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
BO> Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
BO> ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX
BO> 216-225-6759
BO> Boris Osadciw
Do you take orders from Sweden? If so, could you give me the address...
Bjorn
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From: CHRISTER JACOBSSON Number: 5089
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 9:03a
Subj: Xxx-rated CDs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello!
I'm currently running a RA 1.11+ board under OS/2 2.1 with an OS/2-compatible
CDROM-player. Now I'm looking for a GOOD CD with XXX-rated GIF's, preferably a
CD with FILES.BBS-like descriptions for all pics. The disk should NOT contain
any child porn or excessivle violent pics as they are illegal over here.
Preferred topics are:
Nude pics
Masturbation w/ and without dildo
Female-male play inclusive oral and anal sex
Female-female play (lesbian) incl. oral and anal
Male-male play (homo) incl. oral sex
Mild bondage
Mild S&M
/cj(GAIA)
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* Origin: Erotica BBS - +46-60-500477 USR HST DS V32 (2:205/104)
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From: RALPH BANE Number: 5090
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 1:48a
Subj: Dinos Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Still looking for help with this Dinasaurs MM encyclopedia that I bought.
When I try to run it, it says that the player does not recognize the *.mmm
file format. Anyone seen this before? Have this cd? or Have an idea???
Tanx
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* Origin: Denis' RemoteAccess BBS * Ayer, MA * (508)772-6373 (1:322/230)
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 5091
To: TAMI THOMPSON Date: 10/09/93 10:09a
Subj: Walkthroughs and Flybys Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tami Thompson wrote
+-------------------------------+
XXXHi! I got this CD-ROM with a book by the same name. It is
XXXpublished by Waite Group Press, has a list price of $29.95,
XXXand I got it at a Barnes and Nobel (sp?) bookstore in
XXXMinneapolis, but would assume it is available at B Daltons
XXXor Waldens. It is a nifty book/CD-ROM disc! -Tami
+-------------------------------+
Thanks for the information! I'm heading up to my local mall today so
I'll look for it there. I guess I was searching in the wrong place :).
___
X LonMail X I'm in search of myself. Have you seen me anywhere?
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 5092
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:54p
Subj: Comptons MM Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have (1) of Comptons Multimedia Encyclopedia's for sale. I opened it,
tried it out for about 10 minutes... thought it was great, but I will not
have a use for this fine CD in the near future. But do need the money.
So $40 gets it. I will include 2-day air if you pre-pay.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 5093
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:56p
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 Archive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have (1) of Hobbes OS/2 Archive CD's for sale. This is not the new one
on the market, so I will let it go for $15, and will pay P&H if you pre-pay.
I do not have OS/2, so its doing me no good at all. I might be willing to
trade also, for a decent CD... like clip-art would work pretty good for me.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: VADE FORRESTER Number: 5094
To: RICK LOOPER Date: 10/09/93 9:38a
Subj: Re: MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rick Looper to John Hileman <=-
RL> Wonder if
RL> anyone has bought one of these disk and have been able to get it to
RL> work?
Mine works. Sounds like I was lucky. Audio, images, everything.
... Did you save all the parts?
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* Origin: Pretzel Logic BBS 210-497-4552 San Antonio, TX (1:387/401.0)
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 5095
To: CARL SCHULTZ Date: 10/09/93 8:06p
Subj: Sequel to the 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS> -> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything about the
CS> -> sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon. I
CS> -> talked to Graeme Devine (lead programmer) at Trilobyte
CS> -> Software a few months ago, and he said they were shooting to
CS> -> release the sequel between Sept. and Dec. Any info would be
CS> -> most appreciated.
CS> ->
CS> -> Jason
CS> ->
CS> -> P.S. I have NOT finished the game yet. Stuck on the virus puzzle.
CS> -> I think it is similar to Othello, but then again, I don't play
CS> -> that many board games. :-)
CS> ->
CS> -> --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
CS> ->
CS> -> * Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180)
CS> Hi I'm stuck in three places the game room at chess with
CS> queens, the fat ladies room with the bishops and the
CS> kitchen's cans.. please help..
CS> -Carl-
CS> --- Squish v1.01
CS> * Origin: Winnipeg PC UG BBS - Winnipeg, Mb. (204)
CS> 334-8800 (1:348/204)
I used to have a cheat for T7G, but lost it when track 0 decided to go bad on
the hard drive (backup, what's a backup? :) ). I've got it printed out, but
I think it would be better if I tried to get another copy of it and attach it
to a message for you.
Jason
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 5096
To: CARL SCHULTZ Date: 10/09/93 8:08p
Subj: Sequel to the 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
P.S. I CAN help you out with the cans. The answer is "SHY GYPSY SLYLY SPRYLY
TRYST BY MY CRYPT".
--- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: The Genesis Project * 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180)
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Number: 5097
To: DON RIEB Date: 10/09/93 10:58p
Subj: CDROM drive $100 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Don!
In a message to All <10/07/93> Don Rieb wrote:
DR> I have a Internal HITACHI CDROM for sale for $100. It is the drive only,
If you guarantee that the drive works, I would offer you $75. I
am sorry I can't go higher.
...Jeff...
* WCE 1.10/2020 * Go straight to the docs. Do not pass GO. Do not collect
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 5098
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/23/93 3:43a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and single-session?
KS> refers to the way the disk is written, mostly an issue with the new
KS> Kodak Photo CD standard for putting your photos on CDROM. If they take
RS>Even if you do plan to use Photo CD, it may not be a big deal. Right now, i
RS>I've based the above statement on the cost that I pay for Photo CDs at Sam's
RS>Club. This could change in the future.
Thanks for the tip. haven't priced it myself over here yet.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * If there is no God, who pops up the next Kleenex?
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From: SIGI RINDLER Number: 5099
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/28/93 9:07p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JB>AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
JB> >mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
JB>AS>Thank you
JB> >Adrian Salas
Your catalog(s) would be very appreciated by
INS Co. Ltd.
Maison Concorde 201/202
4-2-9 Higashi-cho, Koganei-shi
Tokyo 184, Japan
Thanks in advance.
* OLX 2.1 TD * The 3 stages of marriage: lust, rust and dust
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From: SIGI RINDLER Number: 5100
To: CHRIS DONNEGAN Date: 09/28/93 9:17p
Subj: EDO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD>KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
CD> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
CD>Where are you located, Kevin? I did time in Takanawa and a couple of
CD>years on Nihonkai - in Toyama. What do you do?
Hey you guys.... never expected you hanging out here!
* OLX 2.1 TD * Never hit a man with glasses! Use your fists...
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From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 5101
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 10/03/93 10:56a
Subj: Britanica Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB-_- Think about it, how many library's would buy the obsolete paper
DB-_- version if they could get a network-able CD set, how many parents
DB-_- would dedicate the space to paper if they could just add a CD drive
DB-_- and a one inch "bookshelf"?
Thanks for the note. Personally, though, I've always felt that
the paper and electronic versions of works like this both their
respective places. While I would love to have the Britannica on
CD-ROM, I wouldn't want to eliminate the paper version entirely.
Anyway, with the OED on disc now, it's hard to believe that the
Britannica won't find its way to the medium, eventually.
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* Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
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From: JIM TITTSLER Number: 5102
To: FERDINAND MATARAGNON Date: 10/06/93 8:43a
Subj: Does SB have scsi? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FM> Hi all! I would like to know if CL has released Sound Blasters with an
FM> scsi FM> interface. I've heard of people saying it was already out
Yes. I got a "Sound Blaster Pro SCSI" last year, but I believe that SCSI
is only available in a Sound Blaster 16 version now. You could check with
Creative Labs @ 1.800.998.5227.
* OFFLINE 1.56
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From: JIM TITTSLER Number: 5103
To: DOUG ROWAN Date: 10/08/93 8:32a
Subj: HELP WITH CHINON 431 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> I have a Chinon CD Rom Model # CDS-431
DR>
DR> I do not have a controller nor do I know what type of controller it takes
The CDS-431 is a SCSI-based, single speed CD-ROM drive. Chinon
generally bundles a simple SCSI host adapter and device driver
software with drives intended for use in PCs. Any standard
SCSI host adapter should work, and the drive is supported in
device drivers offered by Corel and others.
(Early CDS-431 internal drives used a 40-pin connector for SCSI.
If you want to use it with a standard SCSI host adapter, a 40-pin
to 50-pin adapter is available from Chinon America in Torrance, CA.)
* OFFLINE 1.56
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From: DAVID HARRISON Number: 5104
To: MIKE GRIFFIN Date: 10/10/93 3:10a
Subj: Re: CD ROM Doors Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG> Hello All!
MG>
MG> I posted a message about a week ago and haven't gotten a reply. I was
MG> interested in CD ROM doors for BBS's. I have ROMBRAIN and would like
MG> to evaluate a few more if they exist before registering it.
MG>
MG> Anyone else have a suggestion? I would love to hear about it..
I run CDMX2DOR (The Next Generation CD-ROM Access BBS Door) on my bbs, and I
like it alot! It was relatively easy to setup, and didnt require any huge
data files... It simply works off of the disks' Files.bbs, DIR##, and many
other file description lists.... It will work with many different formats,
and each CD in your collection can be setup with a completely different form
of Files List (in otherwords one of you CD's can be setup for FILES.BBS and
another be setup for DIR##)... I put Night Owl 9.0 online within 10 minutes
after reading the docs completely... When a user flags some files to
download and then chooses to download, this cd-rom door sends FILE by FILE..
In otherwords it sends one file at a time... It pulls each file off of the
CD-ROM to the Hard Drive and takes out unwanted ads and puts in your
advertisement, and then it sends it to the user... Then it does the same
thing with the next file... If a user chooses Zmodem, then he really can
consider as a Batch download cause the system doesnt stop and ask for input
inbetween each file it sends...
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: WanderLand [214]258-1037 - Ladies Get In Free! (1:124/1211)
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From: DANIEL TSUI Number: 5105
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 11:18p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for the kodak photo CD software from any dealers in OZ. Please
netmail me at the below address.
daniel
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From: DANIEL TSUI Number: 5106
To: BEN SHIELDS Date: 10/07/93 11:37p
Subj: Multi session? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The cheapest one I have seen is from Epoch Systems and
> its description goes like this :
> CD-ROM Drive , Includes controller, Photo CD,
> Multisession
> 350 ms access
> $399.95
> Does anyone out there know of a better deal ? I wan't
The above most likely describes the Mitsumi LU005s. For a few extra dollars,
you can get the Panasonic double speed drive, model 562B (ie ~300kb/s xfer
compared with the mitsumi's ~150kb/s transfer rate), plus a slightly faster
access of ~320ms. The cheapest price I have found for the panasonic 562B is
$412 from osborne computers in Brisbane, including drive, controller card,
cable, ie ready to run.
Daniel
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* Origin: Daniel's Domain * Brisbane, OZ * (3:640/297.10)
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From: IAN BISHOP Number: 5107
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 10:50a
Subj: Panasonic Cd No More Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE>> I have been watching this thread with interest ever since the first msg
RE>> was posted regarding Panasonics' "withdrawl" from the retail market....
Your not the only one. In a way (being a small business - not really
reliant on it) I'm glad that I didn't sell any of the beasties on a
stand alone basis. I'll still get them in my OEM kits. I'd hate to
think I sold a drive to someone that was orphaned 6 months after release
RE>> I think it may be an over-reaction to the popularity of the CR562B/CR563
RE>> and the fact that they couldn't handle the support requirements???
It could well be - A pity really because the drives are as good as
anything around and some people don't want to buy a full MM kit. On the
support side, well, i'm not qualified to comment.
RE>> I'm lucky - Osborne are telling me that they have signed/will be signing
RE>> an OEM agreement to re-sell these drives, & they also appear to be willing
RE>> to on-sell CD-ROM "kits" to the public....
Well, I'll bear that in mind (if "kits" means what I think you want it
to mean) for people who enquire for that configuration.
RE>> Anyway, as the saying goes, we will just have to "wait and see..."
Right.
Regards, Ian Bishop
Bishop's Computers
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From: MATT CHAPMAN Number: 5108
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/07/93 11:21p
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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RE> JS> I was just wondering if anyone out there has heard anything
> JS> about the sequel to The 7th Guest being out, or coming out soon.
I heard it is to be named "the eleventh hour" and speculation has it,
that release will be 2nd/3rd quarter 1994. Hope this is of some use.
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From: POE LIM Number: 5109
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/10/93 1:24a
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Oct 05 20:58 in a msg to Neil Atwood, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
RE> Consultation with a couple of techos from Anabelle Bits (Aust
RE> Distributors for Adaptec) garnered the info to "swap" parity by
RE> removing the parity jumper on the 1540B.... Then it ran just fine!
What you mean is enabling or disabling the parity; most SCSI devices have this
setting, and I believe all devices should have the same setting (need some
checking on that); all my decvices hare have parity "on" or enabled.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 5110
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/10/93 1:27a
Subj: Transfer rates (Panasoni Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Oct 05 21:37 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
RE> No, it make *NO* difference to the test of both drives under OS/2,
RE> but it *DOES* make it *IMPOSSIBLE* to compare your figures to
RE> those obtained using a DOS FAT file system HDD!
It's impossible to compare transfer rates anyway, as different HD, host card,
bus speed etc will have an impact on transfer rates.
RE> What your tests indicate is that, under OS/2, a SCSI CD-ROM is
RE> just as good as the AT-bus CD-ROM (the 10% speed difference was,
RE> as you said, in the better spex on the Toshiba drive)... while you
RE> haven't changed or challenged the view that under DOS the AT-bus
RE> drive still rules!
According to tests done by Tom Bulum, and posted here sometime ago on his new
562b, the transfer rates for the Panasonic was faster under OS/2 than DOS,
everything else being the same (I should have tested it too, but didn't have
drivers for the SB Pro).
RE> Yes, for the comparison between to two drives ON THE ONE
RE> MACHINE.... I cannot add your data to what I have done under DOS!
Yes you can; as an observation on transfer rate under different OS. May aquire
a cheap SB Pro and do further test comparing DOS and OS/2 drivers for both (the
hardware, being the same, means that the difference will probably be due to
better or worse drivers).
RE> Well, I used exactly the same (OK, so it was a 1540B, but who's
RE> looking!) h/a and bus in my tests earlier....
:)
RE> Because *ACTUALS* showed the AT-bus performed the pants off the
RE> SCSI CD-ROM drives!
Oh? From memory your tests were with the brain dead 74/84, which were SCSI-1
devices. And what sort of actuals? The only way to really test is as I've done,
as testing programs do not always give an accurate figure (the T7G test is one,
jumps from 360Kb/sec (over spec) to 400+Kb/sec, just different test times.
RE> What I described was what one of Adaptec's engineers said was the
RE> primary asset of the SCSI system! (Provided it was implemented!)
Yes it is, but a multi-threaded driver should be able to generate
*simultaneous* access to CD and HD, whereas proper implementation will still
need a connect/disconnect from the SCSI bus.
RE> Only slow on avg access! But I may just be able to snag a *NEW*
RE> 74-1 for a few days (the NT integration boys have just bought
RE> some!)....
Permanent loan? :)
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 5111
To: DANIEL CAROLLO Date: 10/10/93 1:40a
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hello Daniel,
On Oct 01 07:08 in a msg to Rowan Evans, Daniel Carollo of 5:7104/2.3 wrote:
>> Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though -
>> it has a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
DC> Who cares about fairness ? Is it fair to compare a CR-562B with
DC> others, it is a double speed drive after all ;-)
Actually the CR562b is slower than the Toshiba 3401, which is also a double
speed drive,, and I'm almost certain it's slower than the Pioneer 604X (anyone
care to loan one for a trial <g>).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 5112
To: MALCOLM WRIGHT Date: 10/10/93 1:45a
Subj: Re: CR562B CD-ROM Drive. Refer: NONE
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Hello Malcolm,
On Oct 05 21:08 in a msg to Rowan Evans, Malcolm Wright of 3:690/660.6 wrote:
MW> Can anyone out there tell me whether the CR-562-B will work under
MW> Os/2. Wanting to use it for my BBS, and can't afford a mistake.
MW> (Running Maximus/2).
Sure does! I tested it under OS/2 against the Toshiba 3401, using CT's drivers
(SBCD2.ADD, from SBCD2.ZIP 8K FReq here if you can't find it), and it worked
without a hitch.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 5113
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 10/10/93 1:54a
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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Hello Chris,
On Oct 04 21:26 in a msg to Rowan Evans, Chris Zito of 1:141/333 wrote:
CZ> C) Why, last time I heard, SB16 doesn't even support SCSI!
Not that I'd buy it (prefer my AHA1542), but the SB16 does have a SCSI version
as well (a new release in Aust anyway). I think there's also a special one
(can't remember if it was the 16 or the Pro) that has 3 interfaces, to the
Panasonic, Mitsumis and one other (don't think it was SCSI).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 5114
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/10/93 2:01a
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Oct 07 20:38 in a msg to Daniel Carollo, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
RE> Wait 'till I update it! (I just got a copy of CDSPEED, a CD-ROM
RE> benchmarking program, so I want to run it against the various
RE> drives I have access to before re-posting results!).....
Do you have it handy where it can be Freq? I'd like to see what sort of
difference a benchmarking program will give to actual copies from CD to disk.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 5115
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/10/93 2:02a
Subj: Multi session? Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan,
On Oct 07 21:20 in a msg to Ben Shields, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
RE> Multisession refers to having the ability to view multiple Kodak
RE> Photo CD sessions (the standard CD-ROM only has a single, spiral
RE> track, like an Audio CD, Photo CD allows for multiple tracks to be
RE> written to the CD-ROM, the second and subsequent tracks starting
RE> after the start of the previous track).
I think this is a common misconception; multi-session should refer to CD-R
(refer Orange Book), where new data can be written to disk, and you don't have
a contiguous directory structure, but data and diretory are in blocks. The
drive must be "smart" enough to look for the next block, rather than finishing
at the end of the first block.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5116
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/09/93 9:07a
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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RE> 3. Provide 100% native SB Pro 2 (OPL3) and SB support
Just a small point here Rowan, whilst it is 100% SB compatible, The SB16
&ASP, are not 100% SBpro compatible. With some SBpro apps (not that
there are many) the SB16 will kick back into Adlib mode.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5117
To: CHRIS ZITO Date: 10/09/93 10:54a
Subj: Re: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
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CZ>pieces of cr*p. Tacking old FM technology (OPL3) onto the latest dig
CZ>audio sampling was real smart, doncha think?
I agree that people are crazy buying this superseded OPL3 FM technology,
but Creative are guilty of pushing it onto the market knowing quite well
that many of these people will have to upgrade it again within 6-12
months. Like where is the waveblaster going to be left, once the OPL4
cards are released, it has no on-board ram, a serious limitation.
The 16 bit sampling ADC on the SB16 & PAS16, are not realy the latest
digital sampling. They are cheap but reasonably effective samplers, but
not up to the professional standard sampling of the Turtle Beach
Multisound. While the Frequency respose graphs of the first two are
shaped like an arched curve, the Turtle beach's curve is dead flat (Like
the surf here in Sydney today :-( ) The GUS daughter board is aimed at
this standard of recording, probably the reason for it's relatively high
price.
CZ>>>>>COMMENT: Creative Labs is pushing out their SB16 pretty hard aren
CZ>Especially when the OPL4 wavetable chips are about to be released!
This practise is wrong. They sure don't tell anyone this either.
CZ>Recording at 16 bit stereo 44.1 kHz takes up a hell of a lotta room,
CZ>think? 16 bit playback is good enough for me.
It's only good for making wavetable patches, but hey, you would be doing
that if you only had a SB16.
CZ>A) Most people will never use 16 bit 44.1 khz record.
I will (for making patches, so I will get the daughter card)
CZ>B) Why not just buy a SCSI card separately?
Good point.
CZ>C) Why, last time I heard, SB16 doesn't even support SCSI!
New SB16 SCSI is about to be released, or may have been already
CZ>Nope. Hmmm... Have you heard MIDI on an SB16? Hahahahaha!!! What a
Good point, most musicians in the computer games industry are really
upset with the fact that 80% of users only get to hear their
compositions thru an FM synth. They all wish that the users could hear
it the way it was supposed to sound, on a wavetable GM synth.
CZ>SB MONO emulation sounds better on the GUS... in <STEREO>!
In some cases yes, but why emulate SB, use the megaem driver and emulate
the Roland Sound Canvas. I'm not really interested in playing a game
unless I can get wavetable sound out of it. With the GUS, I can do that
with any game that supports, MT32, GM, Roland SCC1, or uses the "miles"
drivers (Audio INterface Libraries, like the 7th GUest- Native GUS
support)
CZ>Those DOOM players and those Jetfighter players who want 3-D sound. T
What's this about Jetfighter? Is this a new version with GUS support?
Cheers
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5118
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 10/09/93 11:14a
Subj: Cd Rom Info Refer: NONE
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RE> Well, you say you'll run OS/2 2.1.... Poe Lim has done some tests th
RE> compared a Toshiba SCSI and a Panasonic AT-bus drive.... They both r
RE> out about the same, but with the SCSI giving a higher "perceived"
RE> transfer rate due to the faster (330Kbps) spex of the Toshiba drive.
RE>
RE> Under DOS, it appears to be a different story, with the Panasonic do
RE> a bolter compared to a couple of SCSI CD-ROM drives....
Can you explain this? If two different drives both have a 300kb/s
transfer speed, how can one "do a bolter" under DOS? Are you perhaps
talking about "Burst mode" or something.
Or are you talking about seek times, where the Panasonic cannot match
the SCSI jobs, but I think this may be simply a result of the caddy and
not the SCSI v AT bus.
You have me scratching my head.
Cheers.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5119
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/09/93 11:20a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
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GP>The same way. Just refuse to buy overpriced European-distributed
GP>software, just as you ought to refuse to buy caddy-based drives.
What do I do then if I want a drive with a SUB-300 ms seek time? I don't
know of any tray loaders that are that quick.
I could quite well be wrong...
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5120
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/09/93 11:23a
Subj: Conspiracy Fu Refer: NONE
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GP>resistant, and it's no easier (in fact, it's harder) to put one into
GP>caddy than to put one directly into a caddyless drive.
Whilst this is true, it is even easier again, if you have heaps of
cdroms "lying around" already in their caddies, to just whack one in the
drive, you don't have to open a Jewel case.
Ask Nick Faldo what life is like without a caddy :-)
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5121
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 10/09/93 11:32a
Subj: Sequel to The 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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NZ>game with the same features and quality as T7G? I've heard that Dune
NZ>similar in content (audio/video-wise), and some of their older games
I have DuneCD, it is excellent.
Highly recommended.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 5122
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 10/09/93 11:36a
Subj: Re: CD ROM SCRATCHES Refer: NONE
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KH>BF> Optical polishing methods work on a CD-ROM.
KH>
KH>Auto Paste wax works as well. Read it once in a magazine that if you
KH>wax on and polish it with a soft cloth it helps on scratches. I trie
KH>several Audio CD's that I had and cured about 85% of the skipping I w
KH>getting. Including the one the kids decided was a frisbee!
I have successfully used toothpaste to get a scratch out of a CDrom.
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 5123
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 10/10/93 10:30a
Subj: Echo Abuse Refer: NONE
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On 10-06-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Adrian Salas
said to All:-
AS>For a complete price list of CDs leave net-mail address or fax#!
How about you do us all a favour, and add "DO NOT REPLY IN THIS ECHO!"
to your adverts? Then we don't have to read (or pay for) everyone's
home address. Thank you
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 5124
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 5:52p
Subj: OS/2 Panasonic 562-b Inst Refer: NONE
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Hello!
Recently I bought one of these Pansonic 562-b CDROM drives that everybody
seems to be talking about, ann OS/2 2.1
When I bought the drive, it was shipped to me without any software for it or
installation instructions, so I put it together myself, and found some software
drivers for DOS from a mate. It all works just fine, but still there are a few
questions!!!
1) What files do i need to install the drive in OS/2?
2) Where can I get these files?
3) Can I access the drive in a DOS session from OS/2 (at the moment,
MSCDEX states it's version incompatibility statement if I try to pass
any parameters to it)? 4) I got a cable with the drive that has 4 pins
on one end and 3 on the other. This cable goes from my CDROM audio out,
and fits in both my SB16 CD-In port and my interface card. I think it
is meant for the interface card (as it has audio-out jacks on the back
of it), so where do I get a cable to go from the SB16 to the Drive? (at
the moment it provides mono sound to the SB16)?
Well, here endeth the annoying and obvious questions, thanks for your time!
Marc.
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 5125
To: JOHN COLEMAN Date: 10/06/93 6:24p
Subj: testing 1 2 Refer: NONE
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On 03/10/93, JOHN COLEMAN wrote...
JC> Testing to see if we are connected yet!!!
Hellllllllllloo Redwood City from Australia!!!!
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From: DAVID ADKINS Number: 5126
To: NEIL ATWOOD Date: 10/06/93 9:20a
Subj: Not In Windows Refer: NONE
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-> G'day Rowan,
-> Just curious, but can you clarify what you mean by reverse parity on
-> drives?
-> I have a an NEC CDR74 running off an Adaptec 1542B and do have fairly
-> hangs on th SCSI bus. I think I have parity set OK. I'm using the cur
-> driver and CDROM driver.
->
Excuse me for butting in Neil
My NEC SCSI CDROM which is the portable version has to run without
parity enabled otherwsie it will not run.
Just a quirk of NEC I think. They like you to use their adaptors which
are by Trantor, but mine works well on Future Domain.
regards
David
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 5127
To: DON RIEB Date: 10/08/93 5:56p
Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
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*** Quoting Don Rieb to All dated 10-07-93 ***
> now
> and to those of you that inquired about it, you have been mailed a
> copy.
>
I'll take one!
Michael Avila
4th Floor
5555 New King Street
Troy, Michigan 48098
THANKS!
Mike
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From: CAPTAIN JAMES T KIRK Number: 5128
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/09/93 11:03p
Subj: CD-ROM for BBS Refer: NONE
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I would greatly appreciate a catalogue my address is as follows:
Fred Cantin
511 Georges
Gatineau, Quebec
J8P-5Y1
If you could, please write your best sellections down, I will confer
with the other people from the BBS and we will decide if we want one of your
CD.
Thanks for the Response... and thank you for your time
Fred Cantin
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 5129
To: DAVE CLARK Date: 10/09/93 2:41p
Subj: Cd-rom review: lan master Refer: NONE
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On 10-03-93 03:50 Dave Clark said something about Cd-rom review: lan master,
to which I reply:
DC> Overall, I'm not impressed. It might service as a reference item for
DC> some technojocks, but otherwise, I can't really recommend it. It's
DC> not BBS ready in any meaningful fashion, and there is nothing here
DC> that you could really want to bother with as a SysOp anyway, with the
DC> lack of decent file descriptions on most of the files.
I would like to see, in your reviews, more discussion of the quality of
the files contained on the discs. While BBS issues are surely useful to
SysOps, many of us are not SysOps, but people who buy discs for our own
use, so "BBS Readiness" is not important to us.
... What if there were no hypothetical questions?
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From: RAY DYER Number: 5130
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 10/08/93 8:47a
Subj: CD Rom scratches Refer: NONE
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GP> Have your drive checked by a Mitsumi-competent repair
Well, being only 2 months old, it noes not appear to be a drive related
problem. It is intermittent, being, from a cold boot from one time to the next,
it appears to be a problem with the motherboard or software. The disk that was
giving trouble works now in the area of the microscratch.
It may be a ballance problem as the clamping system on the drive may be causing
the disk to wobble a bit since I could remove the disk and replace it
and it works fine after. There is just a little bit of play on the centering
lock on the 2 CD drive I got (Both Mitsumi)..
It doesn't appear to be a scratch problem after all. It appears to be a
positioning of the disk on the spindle.
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From: RYAN HUI Number: 5131
To: ANYBODY Date: 10/02/93 11:25p
Subj: BBs choices Refer: NONE
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Hello I am intrested in buying a cd-rom or a multimedia kit at the moment but
is it wise to get it now or should I wait a couple of years so that technology
will get better and Cd-rom prices will drop or is it going up?
I like to know before I make A BIG mistake. Thanx.
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From: STEVEN HANNEAMANN Number: 5132
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 9:27p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom Audio Refer: NONE
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I had the Audio Problem but after speaking to a Techie, at Comp USA I
Discovered that you can purchase the correct cable from TTS Multimedia
Systems 1400 Coleman Ave G-12, Santa Clara CA, 95050. Phone
Voice (408)982-0653, FAX 408-982-0738. You can get cables to hook up
quite a few audio boards with many different drive types including the
Mitsumi drives. I paid a nominal fee for the cable and their service
was great.
Steve Hannemann
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 5133
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/09/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: MITSUMI CD-DRIVE Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Donnie Raynor <=-
PR> v°%%%NHello Donnie!
PR> 27 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
PR> I will offer $130 512-939-9822
PR> Pat
PR> -!- GoldED 2.40
PR> ! Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
PR> -!- TMail v1.31.5
PR> ! Origin: dCOM Support, Lake Los Angeles Calif, 805/264-1219,
PR> (1:102/1302)
Pat I can't let it go that cheap, I just payed $200 for it. It's
practically a brand new drive. I haven't even used it two hours.
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From: JOEL DAUGHERTY Number: 5134
To: ERNEST PRESSLEY Date: 10/09/93 2:45a
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EP>Will any Scsi controller work or do Mitsumi have a controller that
EP>allows multiple drives of there's on it. Is there a # to contact them
EP>so that i can ask them for Tech Help!!
When I left the general support field, mitsumi had 2 dives on the marked
the 002 and the 005, both use a proprietary interface but multiple cards
will play nicely together:-)
Joel Daugherty;
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From: JOEL DAUGHERTY Number: 5135
To: SOL-LOTARR Date: 10/09/93 2:45a
Subj: Cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
S>Hi Guys...I have a Soundblaster Pro and I would like to know which
S>CD-Rom is
S>compatable with the card...I appreicate any help on the subject. BTW
S>I am
S>looking for something under $350 but am willing to pay more. Bye
Page A-16 of the manual says a Matsushita model CR-521 CD-ROM (Thats
Panasonic) ;-)
Joel Daugherty;
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From: JOEL DAUGHERTY Number: 5136
To: SCOTT GIBSON Date: 10/09/93 2:45a
Subj: Re: Do I Know You?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>Sorry. Never been to Oshkosh. My high school was in VA. :-)
SG>-- Scott
SG> Richmond, VA
Still way off line, but did it happen to be LEE DAVIS?
Joel Daugherty;
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From: JOEL DAUGHERTY Number: 5137
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 2:45a
Subj: Mpc-2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just read a reference to MPC-2 in another message. Does anyone have the
Specs on this ? I'm interested in the actual MPC document that details
the entire spec.
Joel Daugherty;
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 5138
To: MARKUS GOEBEL Date: 10/09/93 10:27p
Subj: Re: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Markus Goebel beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
MG> RL> I got lousey results with Speedway but got excellent results with
MG> RL> Lightning CD.
MG>Could you please provide some extra info on "Lightning CD"; like who
MG>publishes it and how much does it cost.
It's put out by a company called Lucid and runs about $79.00. If you run
windows, get Lightning for Windows which has the CD program in it.
Otherwise just get Lightning CD. It really works great!
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 5139
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 12:36a
Subj: Sound & CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In the current issue of PC Magazine, October 26th, 1993, Volume 12, Number 18,
there is a very interesting article entitled, "Sight and Sound" (page 108). In
the article PC Magazine tests various Multimedia Pc's with varous CD/Sound
board combinations. The interesting part is that certain "highly regarded"
sound boards do not mesh well with "specific CD players". Also, anyone who is
or plans to purchase a CD Rom in the near future, pay close attention to the
end of the article, as it looks like the dual speed CD Roms are more or less
"has beens", with most of the major manufacturers now getting ready to
introduce triple or quad speed drives at or near the end of the year. So, it
will be interesting to now see all the "nah" sayers who balk at the ASP in
favor of the PAS, for you, this article may be a real "eye opener".... Happy
Reading!
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 5140
To: JOHNNY SWINDLE Date: 10/09/93 10:38a
Subj: Just Some File Stuff Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Tech support information is one area that can really be "lax" outside of North
America. So, glad to see you enjoyed it.
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From: JOHN KAMCHEN Number: 5141
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 2:16p
Subj: mastering CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What steps should I take to prepare a CD for video content ?
I'm looking at using the new CD^32 from Commodore along with the MPEG board
for playing back video, but how can I place the video on the CD?
Would a CD service center have the stuff needed to compress video
real-time to the master CD, or would I need to digitize it frame by frame ?
-John
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 5142
To: BOB MASENGILL Date: 10/09/93 10:03p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bob!
The money is in the mail! Let me know when you get it, or when you mail it
off, thanks! when you send it please spell out Ninth as Texan's can't read zip
codes and it will go some where eles!
Pat
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From: CHRIS MASON Number: 5143
To: KEN HEBER Date: 10/09/93 10:49a
Subj: ignorant Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->
-> 60 duplicate messages over 10,000 miles - care to pay for it?
->
Did you pay for the transfer over 10,000 miles? I doubt it, so
therefore you have no idea the cost and it doesn't affect you directly
so drop it.
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From: TONY MACE Number: 5144
To: JERRY CORNELIUS Date: 10/09/93 11:11p
Subj: t7Guest Soundtrack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jerry!
Friday October 08 1993 18:06, Jerry Cornelius wrote to All:
JC> Is this the way it is with your audio cd too or am I the only one
JC> to suffer in this way?
Mine is same way....
Tony
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5145
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 10/08/93 7:44p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LW>Our attorneys attempted to jump ahead of the current situation and
>develop a registration/notification methodology that will allow rapid
>notification of any future problems as well as provide the best
>possible level of protection for Sysops that is available today.
Thanks for your thorough reply, Lee. Can you summarize for us exactly
what is required, and any associated fees for running Shareware Explorer
on a BBS? I was told that the agreement is somewhere on the discs but
it doesn't exactly jump out at you. I would like to sell some of these
but need a little more info. Thanks!
LW>Times are changing in this industry. We are in this for the long term
>and not for a quick buck. Quality and safety of our products is our
>primary concern.
Yes, I'll second that! I am making some changes myself to ensure I
don't violate any laws, even if you can't get a straight answer as to
what the laws are. <G>
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5146
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/08/93 8:41p
Subj: CD-ROM PREORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS>Tell you what - order two from Ismail. If he actually sells them at that
>price, send me one and I'LL BUY IT FROM YOU!
ROTFL! Let's ALL buy one from Ismail! Let's see if he can guarantee
delivery within 5 days. Think his plan would backfire? ;)
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5147
To: MARK ABBACCHI Date: 10/08/93 8:56p
Subj: CD-ROM Review: Tech Arsen Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MA>To sum up, I am sure you have an EXCELLENT product my friend... I am
>sure that you are very proud of your product... just as many of the
>others in this echo are of their own. You of all people should know how
>long it takes to put a disk together... your criticisms should be
>balanced... you should let people know the GOOD AND BAD points of a
>product. If you can't find ANYTHING EITHER WAY... GOOD OR BAD, then why
>review it...
Mark, I understand your point that it is hard to trust one who reviews
his own work, but what he says about it is true. If anyone has any
doubt about Tech Arsenal, they can call my BBS and check it out. It is
a great technical disc. It was extremely easy to set up since it has
file lists in many different formats both in the individual directories,
and in a directory of their own. I have a couple general discs, a game
disc, a Windows disc, and a graphics disc. Tech Arsenal rounded it all
out with something for the serious user. No, I don't have anything BAD
to say about Tech Arsenal either. <G>
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice Online Credit Card & COD Orders
(205) 671-0092 BBS Download CATALOG1.ZIP for our latest prices!
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5148
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/08/93 9:18p
Subj: Re: NO#10 $20 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA>> Ismail, when is Night Owl's 10 scheduled to be released? I'd like a copy.
>> Is the cost $20?
>Hi Marty,
>Yes it is and should be in within few days. TTYL
Hi Ismail. Can you send me 5 copies at $20 each, and put it on my AMEX?
Jim...
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From: MEINDERT VAN DER VEER Number: 5149
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/08/93 7:57a
Subj: Re: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPAK: $29 Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
I am still alive, so I thought I'd say.....
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT CD-ROM! |
MS> | Title: PROGRAMMER'S MEGAPACK Price: $29 |
Hi Mike,
Add this to my order please.
Cheerio
Meindert
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From: RAMOND DE.VREDE Number: 5150
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 10:00a
Subj: SB2.0 + Cr562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, got a question about the SoundBlaster 2.0 (normal) in combination with a
Panasonic Cr562b CD-ROM Player :
How can I redirect the cd-audio thru my SB ?
I haven't got such connector on my SB which is included with the CD-ROM...
With the sb/pro you then could solve this problem with connecting the CD
through the LINE-IN. I tried that, when I didn't hear a thing (CD-AUDIO), I
installed SBP-SET and set the volume of the LINE-IN higher, but this all
doesn't work out...
Help me please... How can I get my CD-AUDIO and SB-Sound at the SAME time ?
Thanx, Ramond
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From: REMCO VROLIJK Number: 5151
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 10/07/93 5:47p
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Kevin,
KP> On 28 Sep 93 21:03:00, I heard John Kelley shout to Kevin Plummer:
>> Any Many MANY more Titles...
JK>>
JK>> How about a price on Night Owls 10?
JK>>
KP> How about $ 22.50
CAN I order one?? HOW can I order one?? How do foreign consumers usually pay
you (If you send them CD's) ??
As you can see: I'd like to have Night Owls 10 but I haven't seen it yet in
Holland, but as far as I can see it is rather tough to order one from you (I
suppose).
_
Remco, o _ |_|
o / (_) |_|
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From: BILL GOCHNOUR Number: 5152
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/10/93 8:26a
Subj: Re: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and I'am sure we can help you out.
I will be calling you from Okinawa Japan so I hope you have your info ready. I
get very impatient with slow responses at $2 a minute.
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From: BILL GOCHNOUR Number: 5153
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/10/93 8:32a
Subj: Adult Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> If you'll hold on to your horses a bit, Florida Lion's Den
BJ> is promising
Well it's will depend on when they are available.
BJ> has promised an early copy). Other than that, what'll presently meet
BJ> your legal specs probably won't meet your visual expectations. (IMO).
This has been my experience too. I have see a few discs that did original
scans and the files were either very poor scans/very poor photograhy or very
"artsy". (I find superimpoed fish/flower and slashes of color to be
distracting).
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From: DAVID WARNER Number: 5154
To: JASON EYRE Date: 10/07/93 9:39p
Subj: Need a Chip Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-07-93 Jason Eyre wrote to All...
JE> I have a friend who looking for a special chip for
JE> and old computer.. The chip is a PAL164N its from a Unitron
Jason, I just wanted to point out (if you didn't already know) that
that chip is one that has been programmed especially for that
application and you would definitely have to get it through the dealer
not just use one from some other board. I've got a TRS80 model 4, and
they have several of these Programmable Array Logic chips in them too.
And, if there are more than one on the board like that, you would have
to identify the chip location on the board e.g. U16 or something like
that.
Maybe you can find someone with an old Unitron machine or a board from
one to scavenge the chip from.
Dave.
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 5155
To: NANCY DAVIN Date: 10/09/93 11:29p
Subj: World Book Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Nancy Davin beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
ND>If you find out anything about good or bad encyclopedias, drop me a li
ND>appreciate it. Thanks.
I use Compton's Interactive Encyc. for Windows and also Software Toolworks
Encyc. for Windows. They're both great but Compton's is really in a league
of it's own. The DOS version is just as good but less graphical.
Ron
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 5156
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 10/09/93 2:06p
Subj: MITSUMI # CRMC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ohh, yeah you can't do that, the connector cable does hook up to the Mitsumi
interface card and then you get the output from that to the soundcard, sorry
for butting in and not knowing what I was talking about, anyway what soundcard
are we talking about?? TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 5157
To: DIETER NEUVIANS Date: 10/09/93 2:15p
Subj: The 7th Guest - Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am sorry man, I have no idea what to tell to you, that game is very choosy
and a pain in the rear end to get to work properly, but it used to work
beautifully on my computer, which has a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, 610k conventional
memory, a SVGA card with 1 meg on baord and SB 2.0, but since I jsut switched
to a GUS, man its stopped working properly, I need the time to figure out
what's going on, why don't you try to make a bootable disk and then run the
game with no TSR's. TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 5158
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 10/10/93 9:56a
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> CD-Rom with "U.S. Code, containing the general and permanent laws
JC> of the United States" for # 30.00 from:
We have some on order...will be going for $27.95 plus shipping. Call
800-547-7817 to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 5159
To: MARK RICHARDSON Date: 10/10/93 9:58a
Subj: WC2 DELUXE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR> Hello all! I am looking for Wing Commander 2 Deluxe
MR> on CD-ROM for a good price.
MR> Is anyone selling it? Thanks.
We have the WC 2 with Ultima in stock for $57. Call 800-547-7817 to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 5160
To: MARK GLENN Date: 10/10/93 10:01a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB> NIGHT OWL 10 (10/93, BBS
SB> Ready)..............................$32.00
MG> Can you send me more info on what is on these nightowl v10?
We sell the version 10 for less than that and you can call and download the
file list from our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400. It's called
Nightv10.zip.
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From: JOHN HILEMAN Number: 5161
To: GORDON FLETCHER Date: 10/10/93 8:24a
Subj: CREATIVE OMNICD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GF>Has anyone bought the new OmniCD drive by Creative Labs? Thinking of
GF>purchasing one. Appreciate comments good and bad.
I bought one a few weeks ago along with a Sound Blaster ASP. The drive is
an internal model. Installation was easy and the instructions were good.
It is double speed unit manufactured for Creative Labs by Panasonic and it
comes with a cd, Aldus Photostyler SE. One thing that surprised me was
that Photostyler installed itself completely on my hard drive. The cd
comes with a number of sample Photo-cd pictures. Also included with the
OmniCD are some programs to play audio cd's, etc.
BTW, if you buy the Soundblaster ASP, it comes with the 1993 Groliers MPC
encyclopedia. This is a good one and the movies are pretty smooth on my
system (386-33 with Trident 8900C video).
I'm happy with my purchase. Hope this helps.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 5162
To: TONY SIMMONS Date: 10/10/93 4:58p
Subj: cd games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TS> Hi Lon..
TS> thanks for the reply..you wouldnt know how much it
TS> is selling for would you? And if its amer$$$?
TS> Tony
I talked to a retail store manager, and he said the SRP is 59.99 they said
they'll sell it for $44.99 American. That should be the average asking price.
I'm going to guess that the final price once it's released will be somewhere
between 45-50 american dollars.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 5163
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 5:29p
Subj: Walkthroughs and flybys Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I finally found this fantastic CD-ROM at my local waldenbooks today.
It's an OUTSTANDING collection of graphic demos created by various artists
around the world. Many were made with the Autodesk utility. Groups like
Triton, and the Future Crew were on the disc as well. Included with the
package is a book describing each demo, and information about how to make it
yourself. If you've seen some of the future crew's demos you'll really want to
get this package. It's published by the Waite Group.
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 5164
To: TAMI THOMPSON Date: 10/10/93 5:32p
Subj: Walkthrougs and flybys Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I finally found it! Yes, it is QUITE impressive. Let's hope the Waite group
publishes some more CD's like that.
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 5165
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/10/93 9:43a
Subj: Re: As you can see..... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bob -
BJ> Well, don't get too carried away, Arnie (:>. Doing these things
BJ> can suck up a *LOT* of otherwise free time
We all need "just one more thing" to suck up our copious free time <g>.
BJ> (if you do more than just "skate" it).
Something we both do, right? <bg>
BJ> I'm CERTAIN the shareware buyers out there truly appreciate your
BJ> efforts. Listen to them if/when they make suggestions - after all
BJ> they're your CUSTOMERS now!
Country Fair is really small peanuts in the industry. We deal with local
buyers only, and can't match the prices in the mail order area. Last thing
I need is MORE customers! <eby>
Seriously, thanks for the words. I've been enjoying what I'm doing. When
it gets to the point where I can no longer enjoy it, I'll stop.
- Arnie :+}
* ICYWW (in case you were wondering):
bg = bigger grin!
eby = even bigger yet!
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 5166
To: CLARKE ULMER Date: 10/10/93 9:57a
Subj: A&A CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Clarke -
Very impressive CD - I posted a review in this echo and in the
CDROM_SALE echo as well. TTYL.
- Arnie :+}
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From: BOB HAMILTON Number: 5167
To: TIM SMITH Date: 10/10/93 9:34a
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You were wondering about Kodak Photo CD's? I see on page 471 of PC Mag there
are a few listed. There are a bunch of adult photo's in Kodak Photo-CD format
and some fantasy art. The 800 number for one company is 1-800-922-3556.
Bob.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 5168
To: JOHN KELLEY Date: 10/09/93 7:33p
Subj: Re: CD'S 4-SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 28 Sep 93 21:03:00, I heard John Kelley shout to Kevin Plummer:
> Any Many MANY more Titles...
JK>
JK> How about a price on Night Owls 10?
It's $29.00
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 5169
To: DOUG ROWAN Date: 10/10/93 8:51p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Doug Rowan to Donnie Raynor <=-
DR> Will offer $140, brand new here for $165.
DR> Doug
DR> 1-619-627-8669 Voicemail (anytime)
DR> -!- WM v2.09/93-0194
DR> ! Origin: The Business Connection BBS (619) 576-0049 (1:202/1606)
Doug my Mitsumi drive is already sold.
... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 5170
To: JOHN ERWIN Date: 10/10/93 8:59p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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JE> Can you give me more details on CD-Drive?. Like the Speed.
JE> Does it come with Computer plug-in board?.
JE> * *
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John I thought I put that information in the original posting but the
drive has been sold anyway.
... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: JEFF WEBSTER Number: 5171
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/09/93 1:35p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
--> Jeff Webster Quotes a message written by Mike Shannon
--> to All on 10-04-93 00:03 saying:
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MS> * Most current files on the market. Over 98% dated AFTER
MS> 2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dup
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MS>
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What kind of files.bbs does it have, I know it sounds like a stupid question
but there is differnt type